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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:21 am | |
| - Darkmare wrote:
- When is "eventually"?
Your guess is as good as mine. After all this is CS >.> | |
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Darkmare Regular Poster
Posts : 156 Join date : 2011-03-13 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:22 am | |
| - boytitan2 wrote:
- I also should point out adding a few new garapons isnt gona do jack shit
We all knew that. | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:47 am | |
| ya I know lol actualy
I just posted on the dos forum the only reasons ppl probly play this game
heres what I put
only reason you and others and me dumped money on this is do the pychological effects the game cause doubt it was wait scratch that no fucking way it was done on purpose
first the reason most ppl play so much is competitive nature the fact that u have to carry noobs and hate the other unions actually makes u more competitive and play more
2nd garapon litteraly causes the same sensation cause by gamgling gambling is addective
3rd ppl who can dump shit tons of money go threw the same mentalilty getting pokemon gives u want to get every fuucking bot in the garapon but the garapon is rigged so litteraly its really really hard next to impossible to get every bot I know cause after 400+ dollers worth of rolls I can get every bot but genbu
but once theres is no sense of award left most ppl will quit the game which happens fast which is why this game will fail its already a failed game just is very addictive due to teh listed reason
Epic games said it best gammers like to feal rewarded when thats not there they get bored and quit playing.
(sidenote) Really on 2 reasons I play this game A the small community B Im bad at its nice to finnaly have a game were I cant take out a whole team alone or only die when i make a major mistake. | |
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necrio Master Poster
Posts : 2134 Join date : 2010-11-09
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:07 am | |
| Hey
CBEN is already updating faster than almost any other games
I say C.S. have done this quite nicely. For CB of course.
GetAmped 2 on the other hand is very barren of updates. | |
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rei_hunter Surprised Shiromo
Posts : 4660 Join date : 2010-09-22 Location : Amatsu (Philippines)
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:12 am | |
| @necrio
They're updating sure. but how many do you think of the players actually get what they want from the updates? | |
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Epacsten Newbie
Posts : 57 Join date : 2011-03-17 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:19 am | |
| If CS were being responsible with this game, meant to be a competitive shooter:
-The only paid content would be the cosmetic stuff. Custom skins and poly edits. Hair colors. Accessories. Wings, boosters, etc that are just for looks. -The really powerful stuff could only be earned by being good at the game, not grinding, not buying it. -If everyone was using the same weapon or bot, it would be nerfed, or something else would be buffed. -There would be a spending limit per month like other responsible MMO games, and I'm talking like $100 per month.
Here's the thing: CB was never really meant to be a competitive shooter.
-It's mostly reused assets from C21. -They spent almost no money on developing this game. -They will put no effort into managing a trade system because the game is just a cash cow. -They will not deal with people who repeatedly violate the community standards because that takes effort and the game is just a cash cow. -The prices are insane, they charge for the wrong things, all the while spouting the most awful excuses for everything they do or don't do.
tl,dr: The game will not improve. They will only keep trolling you for cash. | |
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necrio Master Poster
Posts : 2134 Join date : 2010-11-09
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:23 am | |
| - rei_hunter wrote:
- @necrio
They're updating sure. but how many do you think of the players actually get what they want from the updates? More than a few I'm sure. | |
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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:24 am | |
| I like how in CB the updates are just Garapwn and new items, while in other games the updates have new quests, items, and a bunch of other stuff depending on the game.
Then again, CB is just there for the PVP >.> | |
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necrio Master Poster
Posts : 2134 Join date : 2010-11-09
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:27 am | |
| yes, the lack of content is somewhat jarring.
Instead of QQing for UC > Rt or more bots, people should ask for more missions / quests. | |
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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:29 am | |
| - necrio wrote:
- yes, the lack of content is somewhat jarring.
Instead of QQing for UC > Rt or more bots, people should ask for more missions / quests. CS will tell us to go play C21.... | |
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necrio Master Poster
Posts : 2134 Join date : 2010-11-09
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:33 am | |
| - ziix wrote:
- necrio wrote:
- yes, the lack of content is somewhat jarring.
Instead of QQing for UC > Rt or more bots, people should ask for more missions / quests. CS will tell us to go play C21.... I dunno, I like CB more. Besides, more Bastagnant bosses won't hurt. Those are not available in C21 (not without some stupid stone collecting that is... and bosses in C21 are jokes compared to the CB Bastagnant bosses.) | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:33 am | |
| His entry clears up SOME things, but there's still a few things left untouched: One would be the cheap shit that spews from his mouth when we ask him serious questions over the GM radio. Yes, he indeed does provide a more solid answer... after a month at least, of course. Two, if Cyberstep realizes ANYTHING about how the English take the marketing strategy for CB. Garapon butthurt is here and not in JP for a reason after all. Three, because I don't feel like ending this post on a serious note, when they're releasing Ivis/EVE/C.S-chan/Ouka Dayu/Connie costumes. edit: - NovaZero wrote:
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- Not to mention that you aren't allowed to BE on the JP server and will be banned if a JP player reports you.
They do that now? Last time, all they did was torture foreigners by spawn camping them while the foreigners' teammates went to some corner and watched. Yep. Thankfully I have a nice guild and nobody reports me. ...Though its worthless doing so since I d/c so often (and so quickly, sometimes)... | |
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LordShade Ace Poster
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 32 Location : Australia, No I Don't Lag. Much
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:20 pm | |
| 1. Actions speak louder then words, right now Tempura diary is just BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
2. I appear to have started a second shitstorm by outcrying on the official forums.
3. what the hell is this Overwatch thing I see people with? (screw that, i never check the news section...)
4. We have stated to him time and time again, we can get around all the problems they are facing. its the only time I've noticed that the playerbase is actually smarter then him.
5. 'Concurrent new users logging in has been rising' no its not Tempura you Liar. Its been decreasing at a sharp rate for weeks now. | |
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Nilla Adept Poster
Posts : 828 Join date : 2011-03-13 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:40 pm | |
| - boytitan2 wrote:
- cause after 400+ dollers worth of rolls I can get every bot but genbu
fff I did like 150ish and I have at least 3 of everything except 0 vanguard and 0 patty | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:54 pm | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- xzpwnz wrote:
- xzpwnz wrote:
- Lolniceguy or so he seems
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:45 pm | |
| the guys who actualy defend the gms have to be 12 no ten and thats still a compliment or cyberstep employes making fake accounts
honestly heres a example of a good gm tho the game gets boring I even uninstalled it gms weres doing a random spawn event in the towns spawing a shit ton of monsters there
I wispered the gm told the gm (u know if you wana do server stress test its pretty bad to hide them in the form of events ppl will either rage quit from lag or generally think the event is stupid due to lack of awards and exp) the gm pmed back and said ya your right no one seems to like this,
guess what the gms actualy listened 0_o
point a smart gm knows its not about the number of complaints but how important that complaint is and if it will actualy help the game that matters
only game Ive seen close to being managed as bad as CB is nostale EU dear god I wanted to KILL THE GMS | |
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:18 pm | |
| I don't think we want a gifting system so much as a way to trade the shit we got from Garapon for shit someone else got from Garapon that we want. Bazaar is nice, but it's UC->UC; we want something that lets us get rid of OUR RT shit for someone ELSE'S RT shit.
None of this RT for UC or RT for nothing nonsense.
If it's RT for RT, you both spent money for it. No one's scamming anyone (unless someone goes, "Hurr, Patty for Needle Mole," but then that's on the player, not the system).
But then again, I'm just one of those guys looking for a way to get something out of my 10+ Shine Battlers/Sigma Clocks/etc instead of just some Crimrose shop points. | |
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Valkyrie Molcars Wearing Sunglasses
Posts : 2457 Join date : 2011-01-23 Age : 31 Location : procrastinating somewhere
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:22 pm | |
| Must be tough being a GM, huh? | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:54 pm | |
| - Valkyrie wrote:
- Must be tough being a GM, huh?
I know right, it's hard to come up with excuses nowadays | |
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brokita1 Regular Poster
Posts : 125 Join date : 2011-04-04
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:16 pm | |
| well mostly theres GM hate in every game, i mean, look at wow, the biggest MMO on the market, and their lead GM ghostcrawler.
but yea, i would love to see CB become more balanced. yesterday ( i kid you not) a VF hit me for 260 as an air, while in mid flight at high alt.
if my keyboard wasn't metal, it would be smashed ( after the 260 hit i got stunned, fell, and he finished me off) | |
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Raal Newbie
Posts : 96 Join date : 2011-03-09 Age : 32 Location : USA, Central time zone
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:27 pm | |
| Whoever said the customer is always right.....seriously didn't have to deal with customer service shit. The customer is NOT alwyas right, and is, in fact, usually wrong. you just have to find a polite way of telling them that.
Seriously thoguh, a game like this does take a lot of work most people playing it have no clue about, but that's normal because most people don't know much about programming. Even those with only basic knowledge of it, liek myself, probably can't imagine jsut how much work actualy geos into the programming, and with that much programming things are bound to happen, which is why tweaks are mad e to try to re balance it out.
As for the gifting thing......it makes logical sense to me. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:53 pm | |
| - Padron wrote:
- LXE wrote:
- Most of you guys think so biased. I am disappoint, Just shut up and watch what happens. Stop raging about the content you greedy sons of Mighty Bynes, it's just a game!!! I mean FFS, can't you guys enjoy the game rather than criticize it? I know you guys want more, but don't you think that we should be the players, not the back seat drivers? I mean, c'mon, you don't see a frustrated player like me complaining.
weren't u complaining like a b***h on the first month of the official release cuz u cant charge RT? yeah, now people in the past 3 months who cant charge cant hold it anymore.
i saw u with 3 fangirls, a red scarf, and a nicole malice. but just look at us UC players, we only got seraphs IN THE PAST 3 MONTHS I did, but I thought its not even worth raging about. You either play the game or quit. I honestly like the game, that's why I play it. I understand its kind of frustrating for UC players but, that is the limitation for playing for free. You don't like the game, the GM's, or the way they release the content? Go somewhere else, CosmicBreak isn't the only MMORPG available! Good things only happen to those who wait, but only shit happens to those who don't. |
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Raal Newbie
Posts : 96 Join date : 2011-03-09 Age : 32 Location : USA, Central time zone
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:06 pm | |
| - LXE wrote:
- Padron wrote:
- LXE wrote:
- Most of you guys think so biased. I am disappoint, Just shut up and watch what happens. Stop raging about the content you greedy sons of Mighty Bynes, it's just a game!!! I mean FFS, can't you guys enjoy the game rather than criticize it? I know you guys want more, but don't you think that we should be the players, not the back seat drivers? I mean, c'mon, you don't see a frustrated player like me complaining.
weren't u complaining like a b***h on the first month of the official release cuz u cant charge RT? yeah, now people in the past 3 months who cant charge cant hold it anymore.
i saw u with 3 fangirls, a red scarf, and a nicole malice. but just look at us UC players, we only got seraphs IN THE PAST 3 MONTHS I did, but I thought its not even worth raging about. You either play the game or quit. I honestly like the game, that's why I play it. I understand its kind of frustrating for UC players but, that is the limitation for playing for free. You don't like the game, the GM's, or the way they release the content? Go somewhere else, CosmicBreak isn't the only MMORPG available! Good things only happen to those who wait, but only shit happens to those who don't. UC players make do. Sniper site + range tuned payload rifle = 5-8 hits on a railgunner that can't quite hit you before hty realize where the f you are...at which point you c=back offtill they look somewhere else. | |
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Kitouski Ace Poster
Posts : 1054 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:34 pm | |
| Silly Americans thinking they can have whatever they want and both Philippians and people from Hong Kong thinking they can pirate whatever they want and all getting butthurt when something asks for money.
I mean really, you guys make me brain hemorrhage...
UC players need to figure out how to play and actually try all the UC bots and not just take people's word for it before they look at something that costs money and go, "HNNNG, that costs money so it's got to be unfair!"
The only thing that you lose for not paying to play Cosmicbreak is customization and choice. Vanguard annoying you? Jump higher, it's not kicking your ass because it's "overpowered", it's kicking your ass because you don't know how to shoot a gun.
People who complain about garapon trolling them need to realize they're gambling and that's all their is to it. I didn't make you click the roll button, neither did the GMs.
Cyberstep is a business, your Call of Duty game wasn't free from a 60$ cost on release date and 15$ for that shiny map pack of yours either. If the community can't meet them at least a tiny bit of the way then all this amounts to is someone who looks like a screaming little kid over a game and the GMs saying, "tough." | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Everyone needs to read this. Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:41 pm | |
| ilu kitouski
What people don't seem to realize is that, for most bots, the core is what characterizes them. Most UC cores are just stats. Most Rt cores have gimmicks, which usually come at the cost of lowered stats/capacity and higher cost, and it's rather rare that the gimmick makes up for it (i.e. Ghost Raider having all the stealth carts but being shitty otherwise, or Sharhead being able to continue running midair but having bad offensive stats). The only "OP" bots are typically top-prize gara bots (with the exception of Air Raider), most other Rt or gara bots are either good for their parts (which end up getting slapped on a completely different and probably UC core (see: K-Shield on Shino or Accel Saber; Cross Raptor AMs on Nagi or Seraph)) or add variety with their gimmicks. | |
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