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Of course you'd get different stuff from different set of lotto cubes because IT'S A GAMBLE.
I never facepalmed so hard in my life...
Actually, I'm pretty sure this one has substance to it. Drop rates in JP are way better than EN, and the garas are considerably less rigged. It's not uncommon to get an Rt charge or Cosmos Regret with a x20 in UC gara; I've gotten 3 Rt and two cosmos regrets in a single x20 before.
Silly Americans thinking they can have whatever they want and both Philippians and people from Hong Kong thinking they can pirate whatever they want and all getting butthurt when something asks for money.
I am not butthurt. I'm not mad. I'm fucking furious because I'm getting my ass ripped open to the size of a fucking football field whenever I try to do something. And that's because of the ridiculous disparity between the paying and the non-paying sides.
Yes, I do understand you put a ton of money into a little (virtual) spinning machine to get that thing you're shoving up me. What I don't understand is why all my methods to fight back don't work. And it's not about being John Rambo. I don't rambo unless I'm trying to farm 0BR.
NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
Actually, I'm pretty sure this one has substance to it. Drop rates in JP are way better than EN, and the garas are considerably less rigged. It's not uncommon to get an Rt charge or Cosmos Regret with a x20 in UC gara; I've gotten 3 Rt and two cosmos regrets in a single x20 before.
Doesn't change that it is still a gamble, at least with the Lotto Box thing. I will admit, it is more likely for someone to get a Rt charge in CBJP than in CBUS. Even I admit that the UC gara rates in CBUS suck.
Hyoka wrote:
I am not butthurt. I'm not mad. I'm fucking furious because I'm getting my ass ripped open to the size of a fucking football field whenever I try to do something. And that's because of the ridiculous disparity between the paying and the non-paying sides.
Yes, I do understand you put a ton of money into a little (virtual) spinning machine to get that thing you're shoving up me. What I don't understand is why all my methods to fight back don't work. And it's not about being John Rambo. I don't rambo unless I'm trying to farm 0BR.
Not to mention.. i rolled 100,000 UC last last month on UC Garapon on JP...
It netted me 10 RT, 7 Tentrions, 20-30+ Hoverion Parts (Individually) and Accel Saber Parts [Which are all 3 Slots], total amount of Tickets earned is now past 50 (Drop Tickets are now at 270+), Amount of Red Chips other tune up parts earned is around 100+, Repair kits around 100+....
10RT i save, Tentrions i junk, parts i sell to either Shop or Crimrose, Tickets i use, and Tune Ups i sell on Garapon (100 Red Chips for 10k UC)
Any UC earned this way i save or roll again or roll UC Garapon Weekly.
The only thing worthwhile for UC Garapon in EN, is their Price. UC Garapon Weekly is 32,000 UC per 20x Rolls.
Kitouski Ace Poster
Posts : 1054 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : US
@Hyoka The sooner you realize Cyberstep is a business first, the sooner you can stop being furious and move on. Maybe when you see someone with a paid bot you should jump higher.
@Suguri True enough, I haven't played on the JP servers personally so I can't claim anything, but I thought the UC gara was 4x the UC cost as the EN one? Even I can get behind this being changed, I've never once claimed CS to be perfect if I come off that way. Whatever the case, if this is the only valid thing that can be brought up, then this whole topic is still silly. That's about enough hype for us to all just send in some complaint tickets to the GM and bug him on Radio then start a crusade...
@brok True enough, but people should never set their expectations so high in gambling. Whenever I touch something that's a gamble, go to the casino here, roll garapon, even open a lotto cube, I set my expectations low and just focus on having fun with it, get in the mindset that it is completely possible to get absolutely trashed and come out with nothing more then a handful of crap. If I walk into a casino with 50$ and come out with zero, I had a good time, if I roll Renny Garapon and it screws me over, I get to derp with a Daedalin for a couple days before assuming I should instantly junk him and take everyone's word on it. When I open a lotto cube, and miss Mighty Bane (;___; ) and get a blue chip instead, that's one blue chip more then I used to have. I just can't think of anything more far to reply with anything related to gambling then, "you took the chance."
Epacsten wrote:
I'm NOT ok with them being pay2win instead of earned rewards for skilled players.
Press the left-trigger harder when you see a Vanguard and back up. There's one thing "skilled players" need to do more when they complain.
Also, saying CS has no passion for this game is quite assumptive. I could instead of considering this whole thread as conflicting viewpoints, consider me right and everyone else idiots, but that's not necessarily the case here. Making a black and white statement claim like that is sort of silly when you don't even know what the GMs look like.
NovaZero wrote:
Should have bought the Shop Renny when you had the chance. Limited customization, but she's still worth the money.
Yea, I'm actually really sad that I didn't... I was thinking, "Oh I can get her in a couple rolls like I did with Dayu and CS-chan and-" yea, didn't work out that way. I'm debating on giving it one more try or just waiting until one day she's in the Weekly Garapon so I get new things to tinker with if I fail getting her instead of stuff I already have. Definitely want to get her eventually, but I only want to spend so much at a time, lol.
Not trying to throw your head straight in the fire honestly that's not what I'm aiming for, all I'm aiming for is to make a point, but we've both been on at the same time, we had a small debate about RT to UC with standpoints that are obvious at this point, so you said to join a match with you on my favored UC bots so you could prove me wrong.
By the end of the hour I got first at least 3 times with a frog, untuned Jikun and Katana Max and you ragequit, how well do you remember that? Again, I'm seriously not trying to point at you and be like, "herder you suck." but... x_x
Not trying to throw your head straight in the fire honestly that's not what I'm aiming for, all I'm aiming for is to make a point, but we've both been on at the same time, we had a small debate about RT to UC with standpoints that are obvious at this point, so you said to join a match with you on my favored UC bots so you could prove me wrong.
By the end of the hour I got first at least 3 times with a frog, untuned Jikun and Katana Max and you ragequit, how well do you remember that? Again, I'm seriously not trying to point at you and be like, "herder you suck." but... x_x
I mixed you up with Nova?
........... oooooooooooooooops.
boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
Whoever said the customer is always right.....seriously didn't have to deal with customer service shit. The customer is NOT alwyas right, and is, in fact, usually wrong. you just have to find a polite way of telling them that.
Seriously thoguh, a game like this does take a lot of work most people playing it have no clue about, but that's normal because most people don't know much about programming. Even those with only basic knowledge of it, liek myself, probably can't imagine jsut how much work actualy geos into the programming, and with that much programming things are bound to happen, which is why tweaks are mad e to try to re balance it out.
As for the gifting thing......it makes logical sense to me.
alot of work alot of work into this game hold on
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
@Suguri True enough, I haven't played on the JP servers personally so I can't claim anything, but I thought the UC gara was 4x the UC cost as the EN one?
Better get some toast ready, because here comes the jelly.
boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
@Suguri True enough, I haven't played on the JP servers personally so I can't claim anything, but I thought the UC gara was 4x the UC cost as the EN one?
Better get some toast ready, because here comes the jelly.
Lol, more like EN's gara is 4x the cost.
NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
Not trying to throw your head straight in the fire honestly that's not what I'm aiming for, all I'm aiming for is to make a point, but we've both been on at the same time, we had a small debate about RT to UC with standpoints that are obvious at this point, so you said to join a match with you on my favored UC bots so you could prove me wrong.
By the end of the hour I got first at least 3 times with a frog, untuned Jikun and Katana Max and you ragequit, how well do you remember that? Again, I'm seriously not trying to point at you and be like, "herder you suck." but... x_x
lol pvp me with those junk uc bots now airs allowed garruntee all my rt lands can kill em stock parts
sidenote
u know whats funny the ppl who dont say this game is broken is always some unknow low rankeds noobs u never see in top ten in arena
come on dipshits this game manegement sucks balls wake up get off tempuras 4 inh dicks and admit thats theres alot of shit wrong with this game
SkyeMeir Regular Poster
Posts : 117 Join date : 2011-02-01 Age : 33 Location : Puerto Rico
@Suguri True enough, I haven't played on the JP servers personally so I can't claim anything, but I thought the UC gara was 4x the UC cost as the EN one?
Better get some toast ready, because here comes the jelly.
Dat 3s Pompom, and what's that BD in silver?
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
Lolsnaps, my argument is completely invalid then. There's one thing I can support... though, I'm also the one who told the GMs they should get a couple new UC bots. Probably will just poke them about it the next GM Radio... gambling is gambling, and I stick by that, but there could be more uses for UC.
And sure, I'll PvP you sometime Boytitan, crappy UC bots and all. Can't really be right now, but hit me up sometime, seriously.
@Suguri True enough, I haven't played on the JP servers personally so I can't claim anything, but I thought the UC gara was 4x the UC cost as the EN one?
Better get some toast ready, because here comes the jelly.
Dat 3s Pompom, and what's that BD in silver?
Accel and Hoverion parts and BD.
Also, I think it's the UC gara 2 that costs 2k per roll, but it has 3s weapons and some pretty high-tier stuff like ballista shooter as well as peace maker, volcano grenade etc.
SkyeMeir Regular Poster
Posts : 117 Join date : 2011-02-01 Age : 33 Location : Puerto Rico
Better get some toast ready, because here comes the jelly.
Dat 3s Pompom, and what's that BD in silver?
Accel and Hoverion parts and BD.
Also, I think it's the UC gara 2 that costs 2k per roll, but it has 3s weapons and some pretty high-tier stuff like ballista shooter as well as peace maker, volcano grenade etc.
I wish
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
