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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 2:01 am | |
| I still say you should blame CBJP, considering how CBEN's updates are based on them. | |
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Turkeysaur Adept Poster
Posts : 782 Join date : 2011-03-11 Location : BF30
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 2:53 am | |
| Hmmm...want to know to know how long will CBEN will last? Ask xz and a couple guys who charges over $800 or more per week.
About the other topic you guys started by somehow, well not everybody is a build genius like Suguri-sensei nor a lucky guy like Kitousky but, TBH and for my own discontent, LazerRazer just got everybody with his actual facts...In the case of an Izuna vs Frau, what prohibits the frau for holding a micro mini zook or avoiding other fliers thanks for her optional broad radar cart? Moreover, Frau aiming for a mini zook stun then spam legs' melee tuned up with slow until non-tuned up Izuna dies?
Of course, good OP bots users are rare bot once you meet them in a match it's a freaking pain in the ass. And, in that sense, I have to agree with a couple guys here, sadly.
And fragging OP bots means nothing unless it was a 1vs1 for your information or else I would gladly brag about fragging better players than me even though that would make me look incredibly stupid.
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 3:28 am | |
| - Turkeysaur wrote:
- Hmmm...want to know to know how long will CBEN will last? Ask xz and a couple guys who charges over $800 or more per week.
you do realize rich ppl like him are part of the problem and why cs thinks there doing a good job if it werent for player like those cs woulda been got they shit toegether u should be doing the oppisite of thanking ppl who roll garas to get multiples of every bot I wish those fags only rolled that much i wish | |
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Turkeysaur Adept Poster
Posts : 782 Join date : 2011-03-11 Location : BF30
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 3:44 am | |
| - boytitan2 wrote:
- Turkeysaur wrote:
- Hmmm...want to know to know how long will CBEN will last? Ask xz and a couple guys who charges over $800 or more per week.
you do realize rich ppl like him are part of the problem and why cs thinks there doing a good job if it werent for player like those cs woulda been got they shit toegether u should be doing the oppisite of thanking ppl who roll garas to get multiples of every bot
I wish those fags only rolled that much i wish Yeah, maybe it's their fault but I'm sure they share our concerns about the course of CBen. But it's also true, as a Rt charger, we're both responsible aswell but, afterall, we all like this game and naively hope it will eventually get better. I don't believe we are in the place to judge them for spending money in what they like because, in the first place, it was C.S. who implemented a lottery system to fund their own greed. | |
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dsp Adept Poster
Posts : 937 Join date : 2011-04-28
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 5:01 am | |
| I'm betting around a year more... well unless they do something drastic then I doubt it'll last longer
@Suguri >I haven't seen the numbers change at all since I started in December Oh wow, we must be playing two different games then | |
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RoboFranky Ace Poster
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 33 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 5:03 am | |
| With the way things are going I predict CS will unleash the ultimate OP bot in gara So OP, u dont need a brain to get good scores Some, rich fags and lucky bastards will get it WTFPWN everyone else everyone else rage quit OP users left feel bored that theres so few ppl, they quit CBEN dies the end doesn seem so long now D: with the lightspeed garapwn updates | |
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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 5:09 am | |
| - RoboFranky wrote:
- With the way things are going
I predict CS will unleash the ultimate OP bot in gara So OP, u dont need a brain to get good scores Some, rich fags and lucky bastards will get it WTFPWN everyone else everyone else rage quit OP users left feel bored that theres so few ppl, they quit CBEN dies the end
doesn seem so long now D: with the lightspeed garapwn updates lol they'll unleash their last, trolliest and greatest money milking garapon ever as a last resort. | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 5:15 am | |
| - ziix wrote:
- RoboFranky wrote:
- With the way things are going
I predict CS will unleash the ultimate OP bot in gara So OP, u dont need a brain to get good scores Some, rich fags and lucky bastards will get it WTFPWN everyone else everyone else rage quit OP users left feel bored that theres so few ppl, they quit CBEN dies the end
doesn seem so long now D: with the lightspeed garapwn updates :pale: lol they'll unleash their last, trolliest and greatest money milking garapon ever as a last resort. Where gold/silver/bronze capsules are actually not obtainable and has everything desirable. And everyone only gets tunes from it. | |
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RoboFranky Ace Poster
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 33 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 6:04 am | |
| - Hyoka wrote:
- ziix wrote:
- RoboFranky wrote:
- With the way things are going
I predict CS will unleash the ultimate OP bot in gara So OP, u dont need a brain to get good scores Some, rich fags and lucky bastards will get it WTFPWN everyone else everyone else rage quit OP users left feel bored that theres so few ppl, they quit CBEN dies the end
doesn seem so long now D: with the lightspeed garapwn updates lol they'll unleash their last, trolliest and greatest money milking garapon ever as a last resort. Where gold/silver/bronze capsules are actually not obtainable and has everything desirable.
And everyone only gets tunes from it. precisely, A gara so troll, only rich fags and lucky bastards can roll it without much disappointment REALLY LUCKY BASTARDS like the ones who get EVE/Patty in a single 5x roll others can only rage in vain and move on to play something else I'm guessing CS is doing lightspeed updates to keep the game from going stale/boring and to increase the population however, their doing it wrong Giving rich fags so much of an edge, newbies will come in the arena with their started bots, get WTFPWNED by sumting like VF or EVE ragequit It seems that the CS policy is Money > Customer satisfaction their greed will only be their downfall | |
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Aria Master Poster
Posts : 2859 Join date : 2011-03-24 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 6:18 am | |
| The money thing really isn't new anyway.
ALL Online Games are like that. | |
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LazerRazer Regular Poster
Posts : 455 Join date : 2011-03-31 Age : 33 Location : Sweden
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 6:29 am | |
| - Aria wrote:
- The money thing really isn't new anyway.
ALL Online Games are like that. No. Only most of them (The ones originating from asia) | |
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SilverySil Adept Poster
Posts : 508 Join date : 2010-12-16
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 10:40 am | |
| - LazerRazer wrote:
- Aria wrote:
- The money thing really isn't new anyway.
ALL Online Games are like that. No. Only most of them (The ones originating from asia) i know of a few that arnt like that =/ but the playerbase in them is quite low, so meh. | |
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EMPattack Regular Poster
Posts : 225 Join date : 2011-01-13
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 11:00 am | |
| i hope that CS can focus on moving with the story....
otherwise its boring shooting the same people every time in arena.
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LordShade Ace Poster
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 32 Location : Australia, No I Don't Lag. Much
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 11:11 am | |
| - ziix wrote:
- RoboFranky wrote:
- With the way things are going
I predict CS will unleash the ultimate OP bot in gara So OP, u dont need a brain to get good scores Some, rich fags and lucky bastards will get it WTFPWN everyone else everyone else rage quit OP users left feel bored that theres so few ppl, they quit CBEN dies the end
doesn seem so long now D: with the lightspeed garapwn updates lol they'll unleash their last, trolliest and greatest money milking garapon ever as a last resort. Which is Ivis. lol by the time they release her she's gonna be mega underpowered. inb4 Crimson Veil has improved ammo from 2 - 5 appears in patch notes at some later date (actually was its initial start 2? I haven't played Ivis for ages...) | |
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rei_hunter Surprised Shiromo
Posts : 4660 Join date : 2010-09-22 Location : Amatsu (Philippines)
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 12:26 pm | |
| @SilverySil Indeed, if xzpwnz is backing their bank accounts firepower to make it last... yeah. But the dropping community wont do well with the paying players.
@diguitinho55 At Night Time, CB-JP hits 700+ Players. 400-500 on Channel 1. at least 50-70 on the other channels.
@LazerRazer I've been asking it.... but if they're gonna hold a Cyberstep vs Heroes with the current population count CB-EN has, i dont think we'll get that UC to RT Conversion. And yeah, RT players are trampling UC players (Or at least people who dont charge directly into the game)
Ugh, i've been lucky in CB-JP to get something to counter RT Land Mechs... Cybernin... Lily can't keep up with TBG... she spams those stun missiles too fast. and her range is too far.
@Mirien This. I want. I want my Double Fag Shaden on CB-JP so i can give it a Blitz Blaster.
@Nilla I agree, it wont last long.
Amaranthea has a K-Shield and Hatigarm Machine... '-';
@IronFist New maps... when they're not even holding a Stage Editor Contest. (Only CB-JP is doing this atm.)
@koi Why do you think CB-JP has UC to RT System.... to keep the UC Players playing for cannon fodder. Least they give the RT Players a run for their money. And yeah, i want those Challenge Boxes.
@LXE more like... imports from C21... but your first statement is true.
@farith Ragnarok Online can go on and on because it isnt PvP based. Its grinding based. And yeah, it rocks. And they've amassed such a large population, that they even go thru a game development phase for their population. (With input from players)
@NovaZero If there's anything to blame, its CB-EN's deployment of the updates.
anyways... too many post. But yeah.... Cosmic Break EN wont last very long. Even if xzpwnz is paying, when there's no one paying. Cosmic Break EN is just milking money to fund itself... so yeah. | |
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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 12:45 pm | |
| - rei_hunter wrote:
- @NovaZero
If there's anything to blame, its CB-EN's deployment of the updates. Which is mostly based off of CBJP's updates.(Garapon Garapon Garapon) Although it does also beg the question why they didn't push through with making some of them Shop. But eh, I just observe. | |
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RoboFranky Ace Poster
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 33 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 12:55 pm | |
| xz is losing interest CBEN death iminent | |
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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 12:57 pm | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 1:07 pm | |
| - RoboFranky wrote:
- xz is losing interest
CBEN death iminent CBEN releases Ivis gara with Ivis/EVE/Patty/Ouka/Renny/Adone/Victor/Connie/TBG/MBG/AG/SG enraged UC players press nuke button CB/C21 gone forever | |
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FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 1:41 pm | |
| - RoboFranky wrote:
- xz is losing interest
CBEN death iminent This. CS, start crying now. | |
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IronFist Adept Poster
Posts : 502 Join date : 2011-04-07
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 4:19 pm | |
| the thing that dont work about UC and RT is . . RT being so OP, many (most) UC players quit and dont play anymore . ..
is it bad as they want to care just about the players that pay 2 play?
yes, because . . . if thats almost no free player because thats no "real" useful free options (lets say for serious, u cant have same stats AND damage AND effects/combo an RT bot with RT weapons and parts have when tuned up) . . . what will happen is that most UC players will not be playing, reducing more the amount of players playing.
yes, u can have some useful stuff from missions and quest drops (ridiculous drop rates, couldnt get anything from Haku and Berz, got more lucky with lotto cube getting a koko, a shino, an accel saber and a volcano grenade) yet it dont make such difference against the all new stuff garatroll (yes, I believe that make a lot of people to spend a hell of money) give with the garabots and weapons
I see a lot of free players at other games and, lol, lets say that most of them spend a bit to get one or two things (at CB it mostly dont happen because, lol, when a UC player see the good stuff are at gara and he give a try at UC gara to check the rates . . . he quit the idea of spending a bit of money to give garatroll a chance) so yes, many UC players dont even try to pay to play because the good stuff is hard to get.
also, the fact thats free players make the "cash" stuff worth it (or, lol, why would u want an OP bot if everyone else can have the OP bot? . . . u would want it just to keep toe to toe with everyone else and not to have a good advantage) so without UC players, RT players wouldnt have such advantage (and I see the number of UC players getting down week by week) what would make them to spend more and more RT to have some kind of advantage . . . then the guys that used to spend justa bit of RT to have some advantage against UC players will feel some of the disadvantage the UC players were feeling and will start to quit too when garatroll come up with even more OP bots and hard rates to get them . . . so the game would end up just with the big RT players and some other low RT players untill they decide the game became boring because thats not so many players to play with.
I really wish the game had more players (even because I wouldnt need to wait for so long to start battles at the maps I create as most players play union wars and Stage Editor is what make me more addicted to CB and to play everyday) but I only see the amount of players going down and I see more and more RT users and their OP bots (2 months ago rooms were full with jikuns, izunas and destructors . . . now try to find how many of them u have at battles . . . also check how many are using only UC bots and how many players are online at the servers . . . numbers going down, mostly UC players by now)
again, I saw that happening on other game and I wouldnt want to see it happening to CB, but it is happening. most players dont pay to play and when they pay they want the thing they are paying for . . . and CB dont give it a chance because free bots and weapons are starting to become useless and if u try to have anything useful, garatroll over your money (so yes, CS is doing it all wrong with CB and gara as, if gara mean u can have the bot before anyone else, but after a time, like 1 or 2 months, the garabots go to shop to be sold by proper amount of RT, so it would be "fair" and players that want the bots on gara but dont want to roll gara will just have to wait 1 or 2 months . . . anyway, who pay for gara have the advantage to get something new before everyone that dont roll gara - and some games do some stuff like that) and will end up making only the rich guys to keep spending at gara (as what happened at the other game) and, lol, look like that just some players spending money dont feed the game (by now look like thats still some 200 players using money . . . maybe that still some 50 UC users or so around, maybe less, but from the 200 that pay to play, how many of the 200 really spend a hell of money at gara? I would say some 50 players . . . )
so, if the game can survive just with the pay 2 play thing . . . good, maybe I dont lose the place to play the maps I make for free and without problems (untill they have the bright idea to make Stage Editor, or to play the maps u make at Stage editor, a RT thing) | |
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Valkyrie Molcars Wearing Sunglasses
Posts : 2457 Join date : 2011-01-23 Age : 31 Location : procrastinating somewhere
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 4:39 pm | |
| Even though the whole "pay 2 win" argument is kinda true, I'd like to state that there's still alot of players who suck with (OP) Rt bots. Mostly because a part of Rt charging players don't have that rank where you can expect them to have alot of skill. >.>- Spoiler:
Inb4 I'll get some comment about how wrong this comment is
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farith Regular Poster
Posts : 384 Join date : 2011-02-11
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 5:04 pm | |
| - rei_hunter wrote:
- @SilverySil
Indeed, if xzpwnz is backing their bank accounts firepower to make it last... yeah. But the dropping community wont do well with the paying players.
@diguitinho55 At Night Time, CB-JP hits 700+ Players. 400-500 on Channel 1. at least 50-70 on the other channels.
@LazerRazer I've been asking it.... but if they're gonna hold a Cyberstep vs Heroes with the current population count CB-EN has, i dont think we'll get that UC to RT Conversion. And yeah, RT players are trampling UC players (Or at least people who dont charge directly into the game)
Ugh, i've been lucky in CB-JP to get something to counter RT Land Mechs... Cybernin... Lily can't keep up with TBG... she spams those stun missiles too fast. and her range is too far.
@Mirien This. I want. I want my Double Fag Shaden on CB-JP so i can give it a Blitz Blaster.
@Nilla I agree, it wont last long.
Amaranthea has a K-Shield and Hatigarm Machine... '-';
@IronFist New maps... when they're not even holding a Stage Editor Contest. (Only CB-JP is doing this atm.)
@koi Why do you think CB-JP has UC to RT System.... to keep the UC Players playing for cannon fodder. Least they give the RT Players a run for their money. And yeah, i want those Challenge Boxes.
@LXE more like... imports from C21... but your first statement is true.
@farith Ragnarok Online can go on and on because it isnt PvP based. Its grinding based. And yeah, it rocks. And they've amassed such a large population, that they even go thru a game development phase for their population. (With input from players)
@NovaZero If there's anything to blame, its CB-EN's deployment of the updates.
anyways... too many post. But yeah.... Cosmic Break EN wont last very long. Even if xzpwnz is paying, when there's no one paying. Cosmic Break EN is just milking money to fund itself... so yeah. This is why I said they really should merge C21 with CB. Make C21 the mission area and keep everything else the way it is. That way if people want to grind mission or quest then they can while the rest of us can pvp. | |
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rei_hunter Surprised Shiromo
Posts : 4660 Join date : 2010-09-22 Location : Amatsu (Philippines)
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 6:42 pm | |
| @farith And make an entirely new game and nullify everything that has been spent and shit? Yeah... that'll take a while and a toll on the population.
@Valkyrie So True. I've observed people who pay high like mad, and the only real reason they can kill is because they've got overpowered bots... but they're bad at using it.
@RoboFranky lol.
@NovaZero But come on, they have the ability to deploy on their own (Like the first 2 months they went from Beta testing to Official Service), UC Shino X-Road and whatnot. I still say it's a problem in their department, and not CB-JP's consistent updates for the masses.
Now its just CB-EN Copying CB-JP's Updates :/ The updates are fast paced, i dont think anyone would have a chance to get some of it... or at least the RT to get them | |
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IronFist Adept Poster
Posts : 502 Join date : 2011-04-07
| Subject: Re: How long will CBEN last? Sat May 07, 2011 7:23 pm | |
| - farith wrote:
This is why I said they really should merge C21 with CB. Make C21 the mission area and keep everything else the way it is. That way if people want to grind mission or quest then they can while the rest of us can pvp. if that mean they will allow me to place enemy bots (non playable) at my maps to make custon missions then I vote for that merge CB and C21 now!!! | |
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