[Ro]A small guide to Crimrose

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:37 pm

xzpwnz wrote:: All airs beside infinite fly bots need quick boost
All airs need float dash
That's about it

Everything else lxe said is probably invalid

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xzpwnz wrote:: Everything else lxe said is probably invalid

Can you check over what I said and point out what is wrong with it, please? #em3

Dracatis wrote:: Don't troll, actually give reasons why you think advice might not always be true people...

I'm not trolling, only trying my best to help. #em6

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:29 pm

LXE wrote:

xzpwnz wrote:: Everything else lxe said is probably invalid

Can you check over what I said and point out what is wrong with it, please? #em3

Dracatis wrote:: Don't troll, actually give reasons why you think advice might not always be true people...

I'm not trolling, only trying my best to help. #em6

No, not you LXE, I was saying they were trolling your advice without actually saying why they think your advice was bad. I hate it when people just say "Your advice is horribad" and ~~cross it out~~ without giving a reason.

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:59 pm

LXE wrote:

xzpwnz wrote:: Everything else lxe said is probably invalid

Can you check over what I said and point out what is wrong with it, please? #em3

Dracatis wrote:: Don't troll, actually give reasons why you think advice might not always be true people...

I'm not trolling, only trying my best to help. #em6

Quote what you said
I don't want to look for it

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xzpwnz wrote:: Quote what you said
I don't want to look for it

Here it is.

Spoiler:

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:19 pm

The one rinrin quoted
I guess I could demoralize the one you just posted as well if you want me to

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xzpwnz wrote:: The one rinrin quoted
I guess I could demoralize the one you just posted as well if you want me to

You mean this one?

LXE wrote:: Super UC Garapon is a treasure trove. Roll it moar often. These are the stuff you want for your crim

- 3 slot Mini Bazooka
- 3 slot Accel Saber AM
- 1 slot Wing Plus AMJ-G
- Tune up Materials
- 3 slot Tentrion AM

...and most of the information that I included in that other one came from you and Suguri.

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:49 pm

LXE wrote:: - Lack of Float Dash - This is very useful, it can get you out of difficult situations
- Lack of Quick Jump - You need this to fly higher than your target. Nothing needs this, some airs even do better without it
- Low TEC - You need more TEC for more damage.Doesn't include air melee

LXE wrote:: Super UC Garapon is a treasure trove. Roll it moar often. These are the stuff you want for your crim

- 3 slot Mini Bazooka
- 3 slot Accel Saber AM Accel arms are a horrible alternative for s-sized bots
- 1 slot Wing Plus AMJ-G This should never be used for anything.... Ever
- Tune up Materials
- 3 slot Tentrion AM

Spoiler:

LXE wrote:

tehprognoob wrote:: Not too far into the game, but here's some proposed plan of tuning

【Robot Name】
Seraph Crimrose

【Parts】
BD： Seraph Crimrose BDγ
　： Beam Bit(default)
　： Seraph Crimrose LG [High Acrobat] [High Boost Alpha] [High Tech Beta]
　： Seraph Crimrose HD
　　： -
　　： -
　： Seraph Crimrose BS2
　： Wing Plus AMJ [High Boost Beta]
　　： Mecha Jetter AM [High Acrobat]
　　　： Auto Beam Rifle
　： Wing Plus AMJ
　　： Mecha Jetter AM [High Boost Beta]
　　　： Mini Bazooka

【Config Check】
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

【Stats】
TYPE：空
SIZE： S
COST： 1260
CAPA： 1260
HP： 429
STR： 9
TEC： 21
WLK： 1
FLY： 37
TGH： 10

LEVEL： 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +70×7
Enhance internal weapon×2
Quick Boost

【必要素材】
Fudara Cosmos×4
Yoguru Cosmos×2
Red Chip×15
Yellow Chip×20
Green Chip×5
Rainbow Chip×22
Stabilizer×71
Turbo Charger×85
Drum Magazine×51
Guide Circuit×3

Could do without the tunes, though.

Problems with the build above

- Two Enhance internal Weapon - If you plan to tune to 38FLY, don't get both of them because it has too much cost. This is correct for the most part
- 37 FLY - Always tune to 38FLY. Not necessarily
- Wing Plus AMJ - Cost Inefficient, Do not use unless you are not planning to tune. Don't use it either way
- High Acrobat Tunes - Cost inefficient, use High Tunes instead.Only correct about high acrobat tunes being inefficient
- No accessories - Get EVE Hair Ornament and Ace of Hearts Earrings, they are available from the Super UC Garapon. Preference (Different accessories could be better dependent on build)
- No weapon tunes. - Use Rapid tunes on the Auto Beam Rifle and Mini Bazooka Rapid tune on abr is excessive
- Beam Bit (default) - Use Slayer Bits, they are available from the shopPreference
- Mecha Jetter AM - Accel Saber AM are from the Super UC Garapon, roll for them. They're better.Accel arms are a horrible alternative for s-sized bots
- 10TGH - You need at least 11TGHYeah
- Lack of Float Dash - This is very useful, it can get you out of difficult situations All airs should have this unless infinite fly x2 core seraph
- Lack of Quick Jump - You need this to fly higher than your target.Nothing needs this, some airs even do better without it

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OK, thanks for clearing stuff up xz. #em3

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:15 am

LXE wrote:: Suguri left because we're all fags. O_o

he who spams alpha air every room i see him in... ? ._.

xzpwnz wrote:

LXE wrote:: - Lack of Float Dash - This is very useful, it can get you out of difficult situations
- Lack of Quick Jump - You need this to fly higher than your target. Nothing needs this, some airs even do better without it
- Low TEC - You need more TEC for more damage.Doesn't include air melee

LXE wrote:: Super UC Garapon is a treasure trove. Roll it moar often. These are the stuff you want for your crim

- 3 slot Mini Bazooka
- 3 slot Accel Saber AM Accel arms are a horrible alternative for s-sized bots
- 1 slot Wing Plus AMJ-G This should never be used for anything.... Ever
- Tune up Materials
- 3 slot Tentrion AM

basically, similar to mine, except for the float dash part Sad

then again i was thinking about 2x internals seraphs and the like so yeah.

also, LXE since when was mecha jetter am in the garapwn. if it is that would be great but...

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@xz - I was talking conventional AIRs needing TEC, not Melee AIRs.

Rinrin wrote:: also, LXE since when was mecha jetter am in the garapwn. if it is that would be great but...

Never said that.

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:13 pm

Aren't some people having a rather limited view on Float Dash?

Good to escape ('cause s*** happens), good to take off from high places when you might not want to get even higher, not to mention that you take off faster?
Good to confuse enemies when you happen to land near one of them. Good to go up slopes? (because taking off and flying forward and landing again and repeat takes more time than to just float dash over and over again?)

I tend to forget about Float Dash when using calc, but it's pretty damn cool to have it.

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:34 am

LXE wrote:

Rinrin wrote:: also, LXE since when was mecha jetter am in the garapwn. if it is that would be great but...

Never said that.

LXE wrote:: Problems with the build above
...
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- Mecha Jetter AM - Accel Saber AM are from the Super UC Garapon, roll for them. They're better.
...
...
...

nop im pretty sure u did.

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@Rinrin - lrn2read

LXE wrote:: - Mecha Jetter AM - Accel Saber AM are from the Super UC Garapon, roll for them. They're better.

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:17 am

LXE wrote:

@Rinrin - lrn2read

LXE wrote:: - Mecha Jetter AM - Accel Saber AM are from the Super UC Garapon, roll for them. They're better.

oh. the mecha jetter am was in the build of the other person.
that explains it.
i dont get why u increased the size of the rest of the words thou, mecha jetter ams r better than accel sabers for airs.
not that i would use either anw.

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:43 am

Why do you guys waste so much time and effort on a bot that won't be good unless it gets 2x internals and spams the hell of it?

From that point, cart selection and tune ups are trivial as FFFFFFFFF.

Ace Poster Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28

Revised a little

【Robot Name】
Seraph Crimrose

【Parts】
BD： Seraph Crimrose BDγ
　： Slayer Bit
　： Seraph Crimrose LG [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha]
　： Seraph Crimrose HD
　　： Eve Hair Ornament [High Boost Beta]
　　： Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Boost Beta]
　： Seraph Crimrose BS2
　： Mecha Jetter AM [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha]
　　： Auto Beam Rifle
　： Mecha Jetter AM [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
　　： Buckler [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tough]

【Config Check】
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

【Stats】
TYPE：空
SIZE： S
COST： 1190
CAPA： 1260
HP： 429
STR： 4
TEC： 27
WLK： 2
FLY： 40
TGH： 12

LEVEL： 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +70×7
Enhance internal weapon×2
Quick Jump

【必要素材】
Fudara Cosmos×12
Red Chip×65
Yellow Chip×45
Stabilizer×45
Turbo Charger×42
Brake Damper×13
Drum Magazine×30
Guide Circuit×35
Hard Plate×11

Regular Poster Posts : 193 Join date : 2011-05-21

tehprognoob wrote:: Revised a little

【Robot Name】
Seraph Crimrose

【Parts】
BD： Seraph Crimrose BDγ
　： Slayer Bit
　： Seraph Crimrose LG [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha]
　： Seraph Crimrose HD
　　： Eve Hair Ornament [High Boost Beta]
　　： Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Boost Beta]
　： Seraph Crimrose BS2
　： Mecha Jetter AM [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha]
　　： Auto Beam Rifle
　： Mecha Jetter AM [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
　　： Buckler [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tough]

【Config Check】
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

【Stats】
TYPE：空
SIZE： S
COST： 1190
CAPA： 1260
HP： 429
STR： 4
TEC： 27
WLK： 2
FLY： 40
TGH： 12

LEVEL： 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +70×7
Enhance internal weapon×2
Quick Jump

【必要素材】
Fudara Cosmos×12
Red Chip×65
Yellow Chip×45
Stabilizer×45
Turbo Charger×42
Brake Damper×13
Drum Magazine×30
Guide Circuit×35
Hard Plate×11

there's so many things wrong with this build

Ace Poster Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26

Rinrin wrote:: oh. the mecha jetter am was in the build of the other person.
that explains it.
i dont get why u increased the size of the rest of the words thou, mecha jetter ams r better than accel sabers for airs.
not that i would use either anw.

actually, considering this is about crimrose, in most cases accel AM > mecha jetter am
by stats, stats to cost ratio, for tuning, aviability ... actually its not only for crimrose this way

size would be about equal, mj am are broader, accel am are longer, id prefer a longer bot to a broader one though but both has its ups and downs

so, unless you are in need of that 1 fly on the mj ams >and you definatly do not want to tune it< you are better off with accel saber ams in this case

so basically, its accelsaber am > mj am unless you are in DIRE need of that 1 fly AND you dont want to tune at all

there are better ams then both of these though

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:49 pm

Aurum_Sol wrote:: -snip-

Rinrin wrote:: i dont take tuning into account.

Ace Poster Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26

Rinrin wrote:

Aurum_Sol wrote:: -snip-

Rinrin wrote:: i dont take tuning into account.

in that case accel ams are still better unless you are in DIRE need of the 1 fly

Ace Poster Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28

PhoenixAir wrote:

tehprognoob wrote:: -snip-

there's so many things wrong with this build

Specify please?

(I have been playing this game for ~ 110 hours, according to the channel list screen.)

Subject: Re: [Ro]A small guide to Crimrose Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:28 pm

tehprognoob wrote:

PhoenixAir wrote:

tehprognoob wrote:: -snip-

there's so many things wrong with this build

Specify please?

(I have been playing this game for ~ 110 hours, according to the channel list screen.)

You should have 38 FLY. Not 40 FLY.

You spam too many TEC tunes when those could potentially be used for a Mini Bazooka with FLY tunes.

You should not have that many FLY tunes on a Seraph LG. (Unless you have a harmonics that gives you 100 percent.)

ABR not tuned...Although that depends on opinion.

You have too much left over capacity.

Hmm....

Guest

EVE Hair Ornament has no slots.
Ace of Heart Earrings from Super UC Garapon also has no slots.

I posted this build up earlier.

Spoiler:

Ace Poster Posts : 1237 Join date : 2010-12-31

Why'd you get 2x internals again? And 38fly on top of that?

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