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dragongx92 Regular Poster
Posts : 236 Join date : 2012-06-04 Location : Where pigs fly..
| Subject: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:45 pm | |
| I have been messing around with some small bots and decide to test out a build. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 The Shadow
【Parts】 BD: Shadow Hunter BD : Dual Axesword Bit : Accel Saber LG [Great Run Alpha] [Great Run Alpha] [Great Run Alpha] : Turtlebacker HD : C.S. Clips B : Flower Pop : Prop BSJ : Accel Saber BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Build Arm AM [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Handy Bazooka : Build Arm AM : Buckler
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 730 CAPA: 730 HP: 325 STR: 2 TEC: 10 WLK: 36 FLY: -3 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +80×5 Blast Guard Stun Regain Tough Runner Sniper Sight Stealth System
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×1 Fudara Cosmos×5 Midoro Cosmos×3 Red Chip×20 Green Chip×90 Stabilizer×23 Engine Shaft×78 Drum Magazine×33 Guide Circuit×14 Snail Liquid×54
I like running around the enemy team and shooting the crap out of the arts staring at the sky looking for air. This may be a waste of cost on a team but I see a killer in the future. Basically you run in shoot a few times and run out. Doing this when you see a opening can really mess people up. Again, this build is a "I wanna have fun" build. I die after the enemy shits on my face cuz no one like short people, I guess. | |
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tehprognoob Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:17 pm | |
| 1. Great Run No; just no
2. Accel saber LG Again, no
3. Stealth system /Sniper sight kind of pointless if you're going to faceplant into Art camp
4. -3 FLY WTF
5. NO MOVEMENT CARTS NOT EVEN SWAY GTFO. | |
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dragongx92 Regular Poster
Posts : 236 Join date : 2012-06-04 Location : Where pigs fly..
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:49 pm | |
| 1. My mistake 2. why not Accel saber lgs?? A base of 4 wlk not good enough?? Also concidering I got like 4 3s of these things.. 3. Hes a ninja, if you dont see him and you dont react right away then it gives me enough time to pop some shots and get out to do it again. 4. lol? 5.Would i even want boost run if im just gonna kite around them?? dont want boost running out of juic while i ride around them. Then again I will be fast(speed demon). Also, you got me on sway. Here is a updated build...AND FLY IS OVER 0 FYI -_- - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 The Shadow 2
【Parts】 BD: Shadow Hunter BD : Dual Axesword Bit : Lazflamme LG : Accel Saber BS [High Run Alpha] [Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Turtlebacker HD [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : C.S. Clips B : Flower Pop : Prop BSJ : Accel Saber BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Build Arm AM [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech] : Handy Bazooka : Build Arm AM [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Buckler
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 730 CAPA: 730 HP: 310 STR: 0 TEC: 16 WLK: 36 FLY: 1 TGH: 6
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +80×5 Blast Guard Stun Regain Tough Runner Sway Stealth System
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×12 Red Chip×50 Green Chip×72 Stabilizer×50 Engine Shaft×64 Guide Circuit×35 Snail Liquid×49
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tehprognoob Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:15 pm | |
| 2. Accel LGs are fat and inefficient. You end up paying for a sub weaon that can't do shit and quadruples hitbox with an S size core
3. Broad Radar and eyeballs say hi; Broad overrides stealth
4. Never 0 a mobility stat because a. you severely hamper your own ability to maneuver b. all the useful lnd mobility carts rely on greater than 0 values for both wlk and fly
5. Which leads me to this point: Boost run is just one option. What's essential is short boost, especially on LND, because it gives you both maneuverability and evasiveness
EDIT: Oh, and prop BSJ is junk because it's 15 cost/stat versus 5 cost/stat, the basic. Will look more when I get home.
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 26 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:16 pm | |
| - tehprognoob wrote:
- 2. Accel LGs are fat and inefficient. You end up paying for a sub weaon that can't do shit and quadruples hitbox with an S size core
They actually have average efficiency, but they're only good for HP-centric builds that don't care about size, and there are a million better leg choices for HP-centric builds. and then yeah putting fatass legs on a tiny core is pretty dumb - tehprognoob wrote:
- 5. Which leads me to this point: Boost run is just one option. What's essential is short boost, especially on LND, because it gives you both maneuverability and evasiveness
Among the other eight billion problems with Shadow Hunter, he doesn't have quick land or quick jump のヮの | |
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dragongx92 Regular Poster
Posts : 236 Join date : 2012-06-04 Location : Where pigs fly..
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:30 pm | |
| Ok ok thanks for clearing that up about accel lg. I Also forgot that the more wlk you have the easier it is to land on the ground. So short boost would be good rather than boost run. Sweet, just a few things I gotta switch around and ill be good. I am just trying to learn about other bots as well as support ones. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:48 pm | |
| also your point about boost run is a bit invalid, if you're worried about running out in the middle of them then you should probably stop somewhere safe right before them and wait for it to recharge. |
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dragongx92 Regular Poster
Posts : 236 Join date : 2012-06-04 Location : Where pigs fly..
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:08 pm | |
| I dont like boost run because I want a constant speed while running. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:13 pm | |
| boost run does give you a constant speed. |
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dragongx92 Regular Poster
Posts : 236 Join date : 2012-06-04 Location : Where pigs fly..
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:15 pm | |
| Do you have to stop to recharge boost gauge??? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:17 pm | |
| that doesn't mean it isn't a constant run speed, boost run only activates when you're running. |
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dragongx92 Regular Poster
Posts : 236 Join date : 2012-06-04 Location : Where pigs fly..
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:33 pm | |
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tehprognoob Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:32 pm | |
| Here's a very good boostrun video with violet tier boostrun/sway/drum machine gun
http://en.niconico.sarashi.com/?sm15117028 | |
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dragongx92 Regular Poster
Posts : 236 Join date : 2012-06-04 Location : Where pigs fly..
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:04 pm | |
| Wow sway is epic. Very epic.... | |
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butthurtlander Newbie
Posts : 22 Join date : 2012-07-03
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:08 pm | |
| it takes a lot of skill to use it to it's best potential though. you can slide right through melee with that thing. | |
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dragongx92 Regular Poster
Posts : 236 Join date : 2012-06-04 Location : Where pigs fly..
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:25 pm | |
| I did not know this....WHY. | |
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UncleBobbie Ace Poster
Posts : 1342 Join date : 2011-03-02 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:32 pm | |
| - tehprognoob wrote:
- Here's a very good boostrun video with violet tier boostrun/sway/drum machine gun
http://en.niconico.sarashi.com/?sm15117028 >mfw people in CBJP play decent swayers in this meta Fuck CBEN, I'm off to CBJP, that shit is awesome. | |
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butthurtlander Newbie
Posts : 22 Join date : 2012-07-03
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:34 pm | |
| if that's the video i think it is then it's extremely old
even for a few months ago it's terribly old | |
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UncleBobbie Ace Poster
Posts : 1342 Join date : 2011-03-02 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:41 pm | |
| - butthurtlander wrote:
- if that's the video i think it is then it's extremely old
even for a few months ago it's terribly old Hell, he survived when HD Ivis was out. Awesome enough for me. | |
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tehprognoob Ace Poster
Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:15 pm | |
| He can still survive fine with that thing
Nothing is going to catch him running at full speed; he can probably outrun a Nova shot at long enough range.
Also Sway was supposed to let you run through other people, so that's where you get your invincibility frames, although I would still take short boost over sway any day. | |
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blead [Administrator]
Posts : 2370 Join date : 2011-03-25 Age : 812 Location : ( ・_・)
| Subject: Re: The shadow( A small land guide) Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:57 pm | |
| Moved.
Land Types -> Gameplay Questions/Discussions
It doesn't look like a guide, really. ( ・_・) | |
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