Do you like the Initium bots?

Personal opinions about Resha and Eris:
-I think zeroes changed meta drastically
-I don't mind zeroes because I can kill them
-I don't like how zeroes have decreased the population
-I don't like how zeroes have segregated the population (all I see on main forum are "rage threads" or "stop qqing" threads)

Personally, I rather have no zeroes if ppl are going to quit and rage this much. Also, I hate how people are not free to voice their opinions anymore because of personal attacks. For example, the majority do not like zeroes... so if someone that does like the zeroes come along... they would be ridicule and label as ignorant.

I have been thinking of the best method of voicing my dislike for the zeroes in a more passive way and this is what I came up with. Also, I like the idea of protesting in Central Area because I believe that it is more effective than raging and arguing with one another. I encourage everyone to find a method that is a little more peaceful, rather than posting about how angry you are and how much you hate the zeroes/anyone that uses the zeroes.

I'll link this thread on main forum... so if the GMs ever visit this thread... they can at least have some statistics on people's opinions about the zeroes.

They're hot!!!!! But no... -.-' Thanks for the one who had the brilliant idea...

Who're they?

I only like Eris, cuz she's Frauever Alone... but in terms of gameplay... she's pretty broke :/

Resha can go die in a fire!

Storyline. Check.
Nice to look at. Check.
Original Design. Check.(?)
Overpowered. Check.
Breaking the game. Check.

If they were heavily nerfed I wouldn't mind them at all. Seriously, this is even worse than Mega Garapon 1. At least back then, people wouldn't have to rely so much on autoplay bots in order to get a decent score in the arena. Eris has invincibility frames while she attacks, has infinite duration buffs and can heal by hugging cactuses. Resha is just annoying. Stunning people to the point where they can't move at all is just bullshit. To me, Reshas aren't really a threat in the arena so long as you keep your distance (or if you have homing bits). Eris is just a pain to deal with.

Cyberstep, why you no give better rates?

Adius wrote:

some stuff

I totally agree on all counts. I wasn't affected as greatly as some by Eris, as I play with broad radar on all my main bots. (I'm just frikkin' paranoid by default..) Still, the arena matches are played drastically different than they were two months ago. It's entirely possible to adapt and go along with it, but it isn't as fun to play games where 5 Reishas 'zerg into your spawn and Vox Atlus spam everywhere while your team runs around like chickens sans heads.

I would like to see one of two things happen:

1.) A nerf to the zeroes to lower the damage, increase the interval, decrease the range and possibly remove the status effects from their attacks and make them all share one cool down timer, to control spam.

2.) A removal of zero bots from the game, while the developers rework all of their abilities to be less "game breaking." If this course was chosen, I would recommend a credit of no less than 200 RT for each Reisha / Eris be given to each player that owns these bots and loses them; (ie: Crimm'd bots shouldn't earn you RT, as they are already gone.)

No, because they're broken and not Mecha Musume.

I don't exactly like them, I don't hate their graphical design, they are good, we can't deny that. but their way of utterly breaking the entire game and cannot be solved by a meta switch that is not "entire team of alphag hurrrrrr" is rather worrying. This is coming from a 2 eris owner


I am taking a hiatus from CB, since I cannot play what i want to play , coming back if there is a suprising and enough nerf

I still like the Eris, It is quite cute / sexy...

But I hate the way they destroyed the strong point of this game, the arena.

>Appearance: No, i cant find any "moe" thing on them
>Design: Resha looks suck, Eris is a little better
>Game breaking: Sure

To sum up, i play this game for fun and collecting cute bots(rouche and nemlim are the cutest imo), i didn't even bother rolling for those ZERO(ya, i waited until those ZERO was moved out of mega b4 rolling). So i chosed "I don't care"(and "No" because this poll is multi choices)

- The design is good, also HD!
- The gameplay and attack are good!
- The introduction videos GOOD!
- The Capa/Stats Good!

- The OP, the extra hopper Carts, Breaking game, Homing attacks,Shield, Cloak... Amount of damage (so break) that is the problem... if u remove/nerf those problems the answer is YES!

Yes/NO/I don't care... its not enough Range for the Answers.

I hate them cuz hey littelary made 90% of my Land based build obselete
I hate them cuz they unskinnable
I hate them cuz they have loads of abusable bugs / "free feature"
I hate them cuz they made loads of my friend qq-ing and quit
atleast I like them cuz they moe (but unskinable is BIG minus) but I don't like OverB

I came here just to say this:

No.

Kind of a silly poll, the only people who would vote with a straight "yes" are faggots.

The issue is not so much with "adapting" to Resheris, it's really just that Resheris will always be steamrolling against their opponents with a lot more ease than what it would take for others to work around it.

It's easy to turn a blind eye on the matter, play a mobile air unit and just fly around sniping shit off, picking off distracted Resheris here and there if they are caught with their pants down (which is rare), then go on about how they aren't a threat, it's easy to adapt to their bullshit and "I kill Resha/eris all the time!", but that'd just plain fucking ignorant.

And on the matter of aesthetic, they look like sluts (especially Resha) and don't even have any "mecha" feel to them.

I hate them. They made the game boring as hell.
I have a Resha and I would like the ZERO's to be removed from the game. Gimme a Squidol Girl

Resha I have little issue with.

Eris on the other hand, gives me a lot of shit on my landbots and anything NOT air.

Resha I can just take X bot and stick X Gatling on it and rape her ass fine.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I voted No, I dont like them. The only Resha/Eris build I ever saw and liked was a Peircegun hopper Eris, and a Combat Gatling hopper Resha.

They piss me off heavily.
Damn reshas with infinite shields and eris's that can stunlock you into a corner and spam you to death.
Made tons of my bots except airs practically useless

reVelske wrote:

Kind of a silly poll, the only people who would vote with a straight "yes" are faggots.

The issue is not so much with "adapting" to Resheris, it's really just that Resheris will always be steamrolling against their opponents with a lot more ease than what it would take for others to work around it.

It's easy to turn a blind eye on the matter, play a mobile air unit and just fly around sniping shit off, picking off distracted Resheris here and there if they are caught with their pants down (which is rare), then go on about how they aren't a threat, it's easy to adapt to their bullshit and "I kill Resha/eris all the time!", but that'd just plain fucking ignorant.

And on the matter of aesthetic, they look like sluts (especially Resha) and don't even have any "mecha" feel to them.

so basically what you're trying to say is that people arent allowed to have a different opinion than yours

i thought it was a good idea to have a poll because people can voice their opinion without having people like you ridicule them... people are entitled to like and do w/e they want

reVelske wrote:

It's easy to turn a blind eye on the matter, play a mobile air unit and just fly around sniping shit off, picking off distracted Resheris here and there if they are caught with their pants down (which is rare), then go on about how they aren't a threat, it's easy to adapt to their bullshit and "I kill Resha/eris all the time!",.

Easy but it gets very, very boring.

Also, let's not forget the people who heavily tuned and used their brains to make very good bots only to get murdered by mentally disabled players.

Not like I care, not playing this kusoge anymoe.

i don't hate resha much, if the map is big i can deal with her + her vox only needs you to retreat some steps and you won't get hit (that is, if you see the resha trying to use vox)
but eris, satan on wheels, only one hit allows her to give me a nice 60 +/- send me away pretty far then make me explode and get 100+/- plus another 50+, maybe it's because i play arts that i hate her, being a melee, but what i hate the most are the players
you can't just go around saying that resha or eris is small-time if you kill them using an alphag/veagle/ag, that's just as bad as playing another eris/resha
if you need one of those bots to kill a resha or an eris then you are doing it wrong
we got to adapt, while still maintaining our Meta (even if it means to keep it as shitty as it used to be)
point is, people need to play better, learn to use bots other than auto-win veagle/ag (alphag still takes a little bit more of skill, imo)
nerf-wise, they should tone it down on eris, she srsly won't let any melee do good
she just mauls them...

Adius wrote:

so basically what you're trying to say is that people arent allowed to have a different opinion than yours

And just what varying opinions do you actually expect from people voted yes aside from "OH NO GUYS ZERO TOTALLY ARENT OP, YOU PEOPLE JUST CANT ADAPT"?

reVelske wrote:

Adius wrote:

so basically what you're trying to say is that people arent allowed to have a different opinion than yours

What opinion is there aside from fagetory ones do you expect someone who voted yes to have? "OH NO GUYS ZERO TOTALLY ARENT OP, YOU PEOPLE JUST CANT ADAPT"?

Basically this. I can deal with Eris' just fine since her shield can be shot 3 times and it's down (EVE cannon) but Eris still poses a problem because I have to time my float dashes just right or else I die. And even then, I only get two shots in before they just shadow sneak again. =x=;

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you can't just go around saying that resha or eris is small-time if you kill them using an alphag/veagle/ag, that's just as bad as playing another eris/resha

Nicely said.

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(alphag still takes a little bit more of skill, imo)

The only difference is that you are clicking 2 buttons, not just holding one.
It ends up not being skill, but getting used to it.



Not in the game, I don't dislike them.
In the game, they are broken, they need nerfs.
That's about it.

(Funny how it was possible to stunlock people in a corner before and slash most bullets, with a bot that also has ranged weapons built-in, but no one cared about it, because all they did was spamming said bot, hopping faggotry, auto pilot faggotry or alphags.)

BTW, saying "I can adapt therefore everyone can do it as well" is selfish as hell. Starting by how everyone else's wallet isn't as heavy, and/or their luck isn't favoring them.
Also, preferences.

Astral_Goddess wrote:

reVelske wrote:

Adius wrote:

so basically what you're trying to say is that people arent allowed to have a different opinion than yours

What opinion is there aside from fagetory ones do you expect someone who voted yes to have? "OH NO GUYS ZERO TOTALLY ARENT OP, YOU PEOPLE JUST CANT ADAPT"?

Basically this. I can deal with Eris' just fine since her shield can be shot 3 times and it's down (EVE cannon) but Eris still poses a problem because I have to time my float dashes just right or else I die. And even then, I only get two shots in before they just shadow sneak again. =x=;

so basically no more free speech... lets just all hate them... lets just all bitch about how op they are and how they need to be nerf...

i will say this... i voted "no"... but i count 4 people who voted "yes"... so you're saying that those 4 people are "faggots" and we should just ignore them and keep thinking "fuck eris... fuck resha... too op"

my argument to you is not about adapting... my point is... are you willing to accept other people's opinion other than your own and be okay that they have that opinion about something you disagree on without raging and acting self-righteous and all knowing ... also, i would like to point out that it is fine to disagree with something... but the way the community have been going on about it... it's just plain wrong... quit if you must... qq to your friends... but posting hate threads everyday isnt going to solve anything

Adius wrote:

Astral_Goddess wrote:

reVelske wrote:

Adius wrote:

so basically what you're trying to say is that people arent allowed to have a different opinion than yours

What opinion is there aside from fagetory ones do you expect someone who voted yes to have? "OH NO GUYS ZERO TOTALLY ARENT OP, YOU PEOPLE JUST CANT ADAPT"?

Basically this. I can deal with Eris' just fine since her shield can be shot 3 times and it's down (EVE cannon) but Eris still poses a problem because I have to time my float dashes just right or else I die. And even then, I only get two shots in before they just shadow sneak again. =x=;

so basically no more free speech... lets just all hate them... lets just all bitch about how op they are and how they need to be nerf...

i will say this... i voted "no"... but i count 4 people who voted "yes"... so you're saying that those 4 people are "faggots" and we should just ignore them and keep thinking "fuck eris... fuck resha... too op"

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