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Posts : 105 Join date : 2012-02-07 Location : Singapore
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:14 pm
Technically, Resha's ally Amot Vainic can potentially kill a teammate Glint Strike Eris.. Coz it prevents her Ex-Blade Revive from healing her HP. Not sure if its a good or bad thing. Most likely bad thing since its sabotaging an ally.
Haven't exactly tested this, I do know that something like that happened when I was doing Haku with a friend. Main reason why I avoid casting it on ally Eris players.
CapeMike Master Poster
Posts : 2079 Join date : 2010-09-29 Age : 51 Location : Chattanooga, TN, USA
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:28 pm
Not that it'll ever happen, but imagine the paradox that would occur if *I* got an Eris...if nothing else, it'd be entertaining...for everyone BUT me! <_<
Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:40 pm
Lyndon wrote:
At the moment cause every body is scared to move out there comfort zone to try new ideas like when people just started hopping
Already tried everything
Here's some information on throwing weapons VS an assault stepping/short boosting, ranged build Resha.
Saucer: Hard to hit with, easily evaded, not fast enough Boomerang Axe: Due to combo ability, it has potential, but generally you will die before taking down her shield 3-way dagger: Higher chance to hit due to range, speed and the fact it throws 3, but you have to be point blank to take the shield out. Oh, and it doesn't work so well. Combi Dagger: More chance to hit due to second hit being a 360 degree throw, but altitude will evade it. Same thing as 3-way dagger. Rush Dagger: MAXIMUM TROLLING potential, can evade Vox Altus and Meluc, much more survivability compared to the other weapons, but still does not cut it.
The rest are too short range, not tested, or basically rare. (then again, Rush Dagger is rare too)
Lord of D: Regular Poster
Posts : 231 Join date : 2011-11-13 Age : 31 Location : Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:44 pm
Lyndon wrote:
Spoiler:
You guys are looking at this all wrong if you wanna find answers on how to kill them then take notes watching the vid and use common sense Like negative buffs cant not stack so we need to make bots with both a main/sub weapon
2,The white one even on the log on screen she has a gash on the left arm so maybe her weakness is her side or the left and vanguard fencer atks in that fashion and u guys did say her shield breaks to quick atks and vanguard can do that can he not?
3,The black one was knocked out with the white one spear atk SPEAR atk and spear have a wide range so maybe trowing objects are the way to go fire mace maybe or boomerang??
4, The white one had problem putting her shield in close range cause the black does not have a strong knock back or any at all so maybe hound dog arms are the way to go or anything with out a strong knock back personally to me she is like a art with a kamari sword just sway to dodge and little by little taker her hp down to me this a test to find the best of the best players in the game and form bonds in each union to defeat darkness and light with team work and a whole bunch of lovy dovy gay shit.
P.S i only suggest melee cause i preffer it over weapons i like lnds alot i have yet to test but its a step in the right dirrection
seriously, do you even know what youre saying?
Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:57 pm
Also, because I don't remember anyone else saying it here, Sheriff Connie can break Resha's shields very quickly.
Of course, Connie's a bit too weak to get close..
Nymph~ Ace Poster
Posts : 1221 Join date : 2011-07-23
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:07 am
wait for another GOD
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:00 am
Some "counters" for Resha (some are more like suggestions). She's still bullshit. Won't bother mentioning Eris because all the usual melee counters apply, she's just bullshit to take down between Rejection and Darkness Hide/EX-Blade Revive.
Anyway:
Aquila Airs, if you can consistently hit with him Psycho Cluster (particularly Neo) Alpha air Tonitrus Gatlings/Vulcans, anti-homing bit recommended. Double Gatling in particular. Seraphs with various rapidfire weapons (dbmg is a bit risky as you'll be putting yourself in Lexratio melee range) Ivis with combat gatling/ceramic burner Dracken with some type of rapid-fire gun (I can't bring myself to say "put an eight vulcan or huge gat on dracken). Clearance tunes highly useful for resisting main weapon/subweapon seals CV tunes highly useful for resisting Vox Altus stun
SilverySil Adept Poster
Posts : 508 Join date : 2010-12-16
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:34 am
for some reason alot of people using resha run away when i target them with a solar buster. Even when they have the shield up. soon as the reaction starts they run.
Not sure why.
Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:33 am
SilverySil wrote:
for some reason alot of people using resha run away when i target them with a solar buster. Even when they have the shield up. soon as the reaction starts they run.
Not sure why.
Nobody likes booster trouble....xD
And where in the world are Fagtor Eagle and Frau Adone Boy Lios in Suguri's list?
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:05 pm
Zwiebel Force wrote:
SilverySil wrote:
for some reason alot of people using resha run away when i target them with a solar buster. Even when they have the shield up. soon as the reaction starts they run.
Not sure why.
Nobody likes booster trouble....xD
And where in the world are Fagtor Eagle and Frau Adone Boy Lios in Suguri's list?
Not-shit Reshas will murder a vector.
Lios works pretty well though.
Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:33 pm
I used someone's 2x G.Rapid Beta Lios with a lot of sucess; it hits a lot easier and hits nicely too, even with his low TEC.
Malphes Ace Poster
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:48 pm
SilverySil wrote:
for some reason alot of people using resha run away when i target them with a solar buster. Even when they have the shield up. soon as the reaction starts they run.
Not sure why.
i think that's just instinct saying "i'm about to explode, better avoid it"
i'd probably do the same thing as them. better off making that shield last as long as possible.
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:33 pm
Trill wrote:
I used someone's 2x G.Rapid Beta Lios with a lot of sucess; it hits a lot easier and hits nicely too, even with his low TEC.
Yeah. Conceptually, Ivis and Lios are probably the two best bots you could fight her with, as you can give them both rapid-hitting main weapons (Lios has one to begin with, Ivis can break Amot in literally 0.9 seconds with ceramic burners), and you have solid melee to fall back on if you get vox'd. Plus Ivis can Clearance Veil so she doesn't need to care about stun or status in the first place.
Lyndon Regular Poster
Posts : 118 Join date : 2011-06-16 Age : 41 Location : Florida
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:58 pm
Lord of D: wrote:
Lyndon wrote:
Spoiler:
You guys are looking at this all wrong if you wanna find answers on how to kill them then take notes watching the vid and use common sense Like negative buffs cant not stack so we need to make bots with both a main/sub weapon
2,The white one even on the log on screen she has a gash on the left arm so maybe her weakness is her side or the left and vanguard fencer atks in that fashion and u guys did say her shield breaks to quick atks and vanguard can do that can he not?
3,The black one was knocked out with the white one spear atk SPEAR atk and spear have a wide range so maybe trowing objects are the way to go fire mace maybe or boomerang??
4, The white one had problem putting her shield in close range cause the black does not have a strong knock back or any at all so maybe hound dog arms are the way to go or anything with out a strong knock back personally to me she is like a art with a kamari sword just sway to dodge and little by little taker her hp down to me this a test to find the best of the best players in the game and form bonds in each union to defeat darkness and light with team work and a whole bunch of lovy dovy gay shit.
P.S i only suggest melee cause i preffer it over weapons i like lnds alot i have yet to test but its a step in the right dirrection
seriously, do you even know what youre saying?
Apparently, hell about 47% of it was right or comes close to it
Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:06 pm
^ What the hell.
Don't make me write a textwall explaining every reason why you're wrong.
SL the Pyro Regular Poster
Posts : 364 Join date : 2011-04-26 Age : 34 Location : I snuck into your room as you read this sentence.
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:29 pm
1v1, I've had some success using Dracken; his axe tears the shield apart in two or three combos, and his self-applied Crimson Veil prevents her from stunlocking you at all... of course, this is providing the Resha user is stupid enough to get into a melee fight with Dracken. The smart ones will keep their distance and use the ranged attacks. If they do that, use the shoulder-barge to close the gap, and maybe shoot an axefireball if you aren't Gun Jammed.
A 200 HP shield is cheap, yes, but it's not invincible. The thing to remember is that any form of shield doesn't have TGH damage reduction: anything capable of racking up high amounts of damage quickly should tear through it with ease. Just make sure you're in a good position to do it (i.e.: possibly catching the Resha by surprise, making sure other enemies players don't crash the party).
Nymph~ Ace Poster
Posts : 1221 Join date : 2011-07-23
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:03 pm
do not let them escape especially on map with meta cacus...
Spoiler:
Klinkin Regular Poster
Posts : 227 Join date : 2011-08-14 Age : 31
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:15 pm
The heck? How does that even work? I can understand using the CVeil and immovability of cloaking to essentially be hit an inordinate number of times, but doesn't a Meta Cactus do more damage than you'll get back from Stun Regain?
This thread has also fallen to the pervasive pattern of CB, though; I've seen ONE UC option, and it's (surprise, surprise) a Seraph. I think we can safely say that Resha and Eris have officially killed any flexibility UC players have. Heck, even light RT players (between UC>RT and offers, there's not really a sharp line between UC and light RT) probably don't have access to any of the new golds or even most of the old golds. I'd like to see more counters that use shop bots and readily available options.
ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:19 pm
Nymph~ wrote:
do not let them escape especially on map with meta cacus...
Spoiler:
I've seen this before
Spoiler:
The only thing that sucks is that it might break parts...
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:37 pm
Klinkin wrote:
The heck? How does that even work? I can understand using the CVeil and immovability of cloaking to essentially be hit an inordinate number of times, but doesn't a Meta Cactus do more damage than you'll get back from Stun Regain?
Copypasting myself:
Suguri wrote:
yay videos:
Klinkin wrote:
This thread has also fallen to the pervasive pattern of CB, though; I've seen ONE UC option, and it's (surprise, surprise) a Seraph. I think we can safely say that Resha and Eris have officially killed any flexibility UC players have. Heck, even light RT players (between UC>RT and offers, there's not really a sharp line between UC and light RT) probably don't have access to any of the new golds or even most of the old golds. I'd like to see more counters that use shop bots and readily available options.
That's just how dumb Initium is. Seraph and antihoming bit Eight Vulcan hops work against Resha. However, Eris can outlast Seraph Wings between Rejection and Darkness Hide then kill the crippled Seraph afterward, and anything on the ground is dead against Eris.
If you want to look at the whole shop, then off the top of my head...
- Baltheon fields can block Meluc, and Vox with proper movement. Just don't let your barrier pop over an Eris... - Zero Saber/ZSG can abuse Zero Step invuln frames to dodge Vox Altus/Meluc while approaching Resha, and can skip through Eris's melee. - Victorl won't have any anti-Initium UC weaponry, but between accele roll, core barrier, and a viper shield in tandem with short boost + quick boost + broad radar he can pretty reliably shrug off or mitigate their attacks with smart play.
But, uh...yeah, Initium kind of screwed everyone. There's a reason JP and EN populations halved, people have been ranting like crazy, JP's got protests going on in central, etc.
CapeMike Master Poster
Posts : 2079 Join date : 2010-09-29 Age : 51 Location : Chattanooga, TN, USA
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:42 am
Don't know what it's worth to anyone, but I -think- I've about worked out the timing necessary to Bugsy-blade an Eris out of her initial melee attack...seems that you have to start your Bugsy swing really early....
I managed to catch one -just- as she decloaked, and she suddenly veered off from her attack for several seconds...an identical scenario a few matches later had the same result...have to keep working on it....
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:53 am
a Seraph Crimrose flying low would probably be glint striked or Ex Attack Inferno'd out of the sky....
Still, if you're an air, just watch your surroundings is all.
Also. Bugsy is -always- op no matter what kind of nerf he gets (Fragile, but i'll take it) nice work mike
Malphes Ace Poster
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:54 am
you'd need broad radar to tell when she's coming at you though
knowing supports though there's no reason they won't have it (aside from literally being unable to get it)
CapeMike Master Poster
Posts : 2079 Join date : 2010-09-29 Age : 51 Location : Chattanooga, TN, USA
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:24 am
Malphes wrote:
you'd need broad radar to tell when she's coming at you though
knowing supports though there's no reason they won't have it (aside from literally being unable to get it)
Cyberoid gets Broad Radar at lv 1(!), I know MediQ also gets it, and Pulsardio gets it at lv 9 or 10....
So not only does Pulsycait see everything going on, I've got a way to at least dissuade most targets from coming after me...so now you know why I'm constantly calling targets during the early stages of a match...so if I suddenly start juking and dashing for my life...there's a very good reason for it....
I still don't have a consistent anti-air measure yet once one gets close though...but that's for another thread....
Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
Subject: Re: Is there a way to kill a god? Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:44 am
Apparently, Bugsy BS can block Vox Altus attempts.
nice work mike