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LordShade Ace Poster
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 32 Location : Australia, No I Don't Lag. Much
| Subject: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:11 pm | |
| http://www.cosmicbreak.com/commu/?m=pc&a=page_c_topic_detail&target_c_commu_topic_id=3369 this thread alerted me, in paticular post no.1 not implementing a trading system OR bazarr, OR GIFTING which was available in beta, is just plain bullshit. also the implementation of a UC to RT conversion, this NEEDS to be done. we should rally together and hit them when it REALLY hurts. their wallet. I say we boycott RT until we get these long overdue features. its quite simply. not FAIR. that Jpcb gets so much better stuff then us purely because CBUS Devs are greedy bastards. I don't really care if xzpwnz or feirts ignore this because we all know they will because they are garapon addicts who spend 2000 bucks a month on rolling the damn thing, but we really need to do something about this, because you know whats slated for release the next coming months? more and more overpowered moe/bots - and not a single thing that we wanted. now considering how small CBUS playerbase is, this shouldn't be too hard. But heres my stance, I'm giving it until sheriff Connie comes out - if we still haven't got features we HAD IN BETA by then, Tempura is not getting another cent outta me. you may laugh at me, you may say this is never going to work, but its worth a shot. I'd like to know who's with me. (i'll post this over at the community if i get a good following.) - Spoiler:
inb4trolls
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TommoPuppy Regular Poster
Posts : 105 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 32 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:22 pm | |
| I'll continue being the UC player that I am! >:O | |
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hankzorz Regular Poster
Posts : 254 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 33 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:23 pm | |
| I concur, trading/gifting will help retain players from different MMOs that came over to try Cosmic Break. I'm going to stop using UGC on this game > | |
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StickyKeys Master Poster
Posts : 2670 Join date : 2010-12-31 Age : 36 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:24 pm | |
| - LordShade wrote:
- http://www.cosmicbreak.com/commu/?m=pc&a=page_c_topic_detail&target_c_commu_topic_id=3369
this thread alerted me, in paticular post no.1 1) not implementing a trading system OR bazarr, OR GIFTING which was available in beta, is just plain bullshit. we should rally together and hit them when it REALLY hurts. their wallet. 2) I say we boycott RT until we get these long overdue features. its quite simply. not FAIR. that Jpcb gets so much better stuff then us purely because CBUS Devs are greedy bastards. 3) I don't really care if xzpwnz or feirts ignore this because we all know they will because they are garapon addicts who spend 2000 bucks a month on rolling the damn thing, but we really need to do something about this, because you know whats slated for release the next coming months? more and more overpowered moe/bots - and not a single thing that we wanted. now considering how small CBUS playerbase is, this shouldn't be too hard. But heres my stance, I'm giving it until sheriff Connie comes out - if we still haven't got features we HAD IN BETA by then, Tempura is not getting another cent outta me. 4) you may laugh at me, you may say this is never going to work, but its worth a shot. I'd like to know who's with me. (i'll post this over at the community if i get a good following.)
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inb4trolls
1. True 2. Bad Idea. Rebellion and boycotts are the worst possible diplomatic arguments we can think of doing. If we really want to have them why not negotiate directly to the GMs... 3. ... no comment. 4. No one will laugh at you. This is a serious topic afterall... | |
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LordShade Ace Poster
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 32 Location : Australia, No I Don't Lag. Much
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:27 pm | |
| - StickyKeys wrote:
- LordShade wrote:
- http://www.cosmicbreak.com/commu/?m=pc&a=page_c_topic_detail&target_c_commu_topic_id=3369
this thread alerted me, in paticular post no.1 1) not implementing a trading system OR bazarr, OR GIFTING which was available in beta, is just plain bullshit. we should rally together and hit them when it REALLY hurts. their wallet. 2) I say we boycott RT until we get these long overdue features. its quite simply. not FAIR. that Jpcb gets so much better stuff then us purely because CBUS Devs are greedy bastards. 3) I don't really care if xzpwnz or feirts ignore this because we all know they will because they are garapon addicts who spend 2000 bucks a month on rolling the damn thing, but we really need to do something about this, because you know whats slated for release the next coming months? more and more overpowered moe/bots - and not a single thing that we wanted. now considering how small CBUS playerbase is, this shouldn't be too hard. But heres my stance, I'm giving it until sheriff Connie comes out - if we still haven't got features we HAD IN BETA by then, Tempura is not getting another cent outta me. 4) you may laugh at me, you may say this is never going to work, but its worth a shot. I'd like to know who's with me. (i'll post this over at the community if i get a good following.)
- Spoiler:
inb4trolls
1. True 2. Bad Idea. Rebellion and boycotts are the worst possible diplomatic arguments we can think of doing. If we really want to have them why not negotiate directly to the GMs... 3. ... no comment. 4. No one will laugh at you. This is a serious topic afterall... as far as I know, Negotiations have failed. | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:31 pm | |
| - Tempura wrote:
You want handy zook?
Herp derp. | |
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Mist Regular Poster
Posts : 258 Join date : 2011-03-11
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:34 pm | |
| I agree it's bad to form a riot against them but trading system MUST be added to the game at some point in time. CS will either lose players or lose money; or both if they don't decide. | |
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FrozenEdge Ace Poster
Posts : 1003 Join date : 2010-10-18 Location : Antartica
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:34 pm | |
| and again.. as i said in the thread.... FEIRTS DIED!!!! trust me..... we're playing in some other game >_>
anyways, i agree in this. CS wont even put a gift system even though they will earn profits... its just plain bullshit..... =___= | |
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StickyKeys Master Poster
Posts : 2670 Join date : 2010-12-31 Age : 36 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:38 pm | |
| - FrozenEdge wrote:
- and again.. as i said in the thread.... FEIRTS DIED!!!! trust me..... we're playing in some other game >_>
anyways, i agree in this. CS wont even put a gift system even though they will earn profits... its just plain bullshit..... =___= WTH? Did he died literally or do you mean he quit? | |
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FrozenEdge Ace Poster
Posts : 1003 Join date : 2010-10-18 Location : Antartica
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:42 pm | |
| - StickyKeys wrote:
- FrozenEdge wrote:
- and again.. as i said in the thread.... FEIRTS DIED!!!! trust me..... we're playing in some other game >_>
anyways, i agree in this. CS wont even put a gift system even though they will earn profits... its just plain bullshit..... =___= WTH? Did he died literally or do you mean he quit? i use the word died instead of quit >_> so yeah he got bored and he cant cash the game anymore..... so anyways Elsword OB is on April 27th, so..... | |
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Turkeysaur Adept Poster
Posts : 782 Join date : 2011-03-11 Location : BF30
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:42 pm | |
| Add UC -> Rt conversion to your campaign's demands and I'll join the cause. | |
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:43 pm | |
| - StickyKeys wrote:
- FrozenEdge wrote:
- and again.. as i said in the thread.... FEIRTS DIED!!!! trust me..... we're playing in some other game >_>
anyways, i agree in this. CS wont even put a gift system even though they will earn profits... its just plain bullshit..... =___= WTH? Did he died literally or do you mean he quit? Seeing as they're playing together in another game, I can deduce it's just that he left the game. | |
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farith Regular Poster
Posts : 384 Join date : 2011-02-11
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:45 pm | |
| there is a really simple way to fix everything: 1) make all bots availible in UC shop but with no slots and with locked parts. Then, make all bots also availible in RT shop but with 1 slot on every part and without lock parts BUT NO MORE THAN 20RT EACH. Make all gara bots 3 slots and no lock parts.
2) make all rooms 50 vs 50
3) MAKE THE GOD DAMN KICK FUNCTION LIKE TEAM FORTESS 2, WHERE IT WILL BE ANNOUNCED TO EVERYONE AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHO IS THE ASSHOLE TO VOTE KICK ON.
4) update UC gara every week like JPCB
5) LOWER THE GOD DAMN RT GARA PRICE
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LordShade Ace Poster
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 32 Location : Australia, No I Don't Lag. Much
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:46 pm | |
| - Turkeysaur wrote:
- Add UC -> Rt conversion to your campaign's demands and I'll join the cause.
yeah i forgot to add this. | |
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Jello Regular Poster
Posts : 395 Join date : 2010-06-19
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:46 pm | |
| HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
Good luck with that. | |
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FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:50 pm | |
| A boycott/riot is not a great idea. By doing that we're forcing them to make a response; in essence, forcing their hand. That might lead them to attempt to retaliate, which I doubt will happen but is still a possibility.
Negotiations don't work either, because we're sitting them down at a bargaining table where both sides aren't equal. The devs are CyberStep, yes? They have plenty of other branches to siphon money from; if one branch tries to stage a boycott, they can simply shutter us. Yes, they lose money by losing the English game, but they also don't have to pay for the server costs and etc. that they have to maintain in order for them to have an English CB.
I agree, the failure to implement even a semblance of a workable trading system is complete bullshit. I'm not saying it isn't. The problem is that forcing the issue with the GMs isn't going to work. Yes, forcing their hand may win us the trading system quickly, but in return the devs will know they're dealing with a bunch of snot-nosed assholes who will do anything to get what they want. Basically, boycott/start a rebellion and we basically hold them at figurative swordpoint for what we want. People usually aren't too willing to extend themselves to satisfy others when they're being virtually forced to.
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:57 pm | |
| They're about to release something soon | |
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LordShade Ace Poster
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 32 Location : Australia, No I Don't Lag. Much
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:58 pm | |
| well I'm all ears for suggesting something we can do to make them give us a trading system
because right now their reason seems to be ZOMG CREDIT CARD FRAUD NO WAIIIII
when in reality they are afraid it'll reduce garapawn profits. | |
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StickyKeys Master Poster
Posts : 2670 Join date : 2010-12-31 Age : 36 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:59 pm | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- They're about to release something soon
It isn't some white liquid is it? Just read that UC => RT is possible in CBJP..... DOS RAGE! | |
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FrozenEdge Ace Poster
Posts : 1003 Join date : 2010-10-18 Location : Antartica
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LordShade Ace Poster
Posts : 1236 Join date : 2011-01-31 Age : 32 Location : Australia, No I Don't Lag. Much
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Melencholy Regular Poster
Posts : 210 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 31 Location : Gensokyo
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:15 pm | |
| I sort of Support to be honest. I just know boycotting wouldn't work.
But seriously..If Tempura isn't gonna release the Key Updates and Patches that would actually keep and get more players into the game..why continue it?
It's only 50 RT Each Month from the UC -> RT Conversion. That's 5 Damn Dollars, that's not even barely cutting into their profits x_x
As for the Bazaar, If it's only UC Items that can be put up, Why the hell would it not be put in?
-stopped charging RT since i put 40$ into CB-
Off-Topic: Just watched the Video on CBJP in Battle with BRD Vs Wiz. They Utilize the Voice Chat well to make plans and make formations in a way and actually everyone charges the PS. But they barely type it seems.
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Turkeysaur Adept Poster
Posts : 782 Join date : 2011-03-11 Location : BF30
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:18 pm | |
| - FireKiller87 wrote:
- A boycott/riot is not a great idea. By doing that we're forcing them to make a response; in essence, forcing their hand. That might lead them to attempt to retaliate, which I doubt will happen but is still a possibility.
Negotiations don't work either, because we're sitting them down at a bargaining table where both sides aren't equal. The devs are CyberStep, yes? They have plenty of other branches to siphon money from; if one branch tries to stage a boycott, they can simply shutter us. Yes, they lose money by losing the English game, but they also don't have to pay for the server costs and etc. that they have to maintain in order for them to have an English CB.
I agree, the failure to implement even a semblance of a workable trading system is complete bullshit. I'm not saying it isn't. The problem is that forcing the issue with the GMs isn't going to work. Yes, forcing their hand may win us the trading system quickly, but in return the devs will know they're dealing with a bunch of snot-nosed assholes who will do anything to get what they want. Basically, boycott/start a rebellion and we basically hold them at figurative swordpoint for what we want. People usually aren't too willing to extend themselves to satisfy others when they're being virtually forced to.
Closing CBen based on the reason that the population's demands were to "high to comply" will hurt CS attempts to launch any english official MMO, most people that experienced CBen won't play it and will provide generally negative opinions about CS.
Besides, this kind of boycott is the most natural response from consumers when the supplier is consistently failing to deliver (e.g., making useless updates mostly or only for Rt garapon while the population's most urgent and important demands are others). I don't see how we truly are at the end of the bargaining table. | |
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| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:21 pm | |
| A long long time ago before I became a Mecha Jetter fangirl, I was like you guys but it occured to me that its not worth raeging over shit that doesn't exist. So quit your whining because its just a game, if you don't like how they roll, just QQ, derp rage, and move on to another game. Theres a reason why GM's opt out of adding a trade system and that reason is to prevent people from item scamming, and doing shady businesses. Plus with trade systems, its instant gratification which basically destroys the point of playing the game. For you UC fags and RT whores who want UC to RT conversion. Think of how many players there are, in CBEN. Lets say around 580 active players, and half of them are RT buyers. Most players can afford to buy 300RT per month and very few would spend over $80. Plus subtracting maintenance expenditure, management expenditure, power bills, company expenditures, GMs' Pay. Heck, they can't even afford to advertise. What would you do? Don't say it doesn't hurt profits because UC to RT conversion because it really does!!! Plus GM Miso is awesome. And no, I'm not trolling. |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Gentleman, its Time for action. Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:24 pm | |
| It's business Their player population is decreasing They've made a fail attempt by cycling the uc garapons Expect a desperation attempt to come out soon | |
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