Hoppers.

Hoppers.

Thats the reason this game is going to fail.
Thats the reason you don't need to buy money for be in the top 10.
Thats the reason community is decreasing.

They are not the only reason, but they are part of it.

I have seen better games go from beta to full version with a "boom" and close 3 months later. It has passed one month since cosmicbreak full version appeared.

Community passed from 1000 to 700 to 300 (the actual amount of players now).

I blame free builds that are overpowered that make people realize they don't need to spend money for be on the top and make quit people that are bored of matches full of these. You don't even need skill, just jump around enemy.

Cyberstep need to realize they are not the only MMO company in the world and that can't allow free builds to be overpowered and make players that may actually spend money and support the game quit. I don't understand whats the logic in let a robot that cost 60$ be defeated by a free 800 game cost robot, apart of make the game fail faster.

An skilled free robot should be able to defeat a cash user.
A cash user should be able to defeat a free robot with ease.
A free robot should not be able to defeat a cash user with ease.

The only players that defend hoppers are the ones that use them and don't care if the game closes.

hoppers arent impossible to kill you know. there are weapons that can kill them without much effort.
oh ye i dont use hoppers and do care about the game since i buy Rt.

hoppers are overpowered against noobs

They are strong but doesn't mean u can't beat them. There are many different types of mech that are strong in the right hands.

i dont understean very good but... i think that cosmicbreak japan or corea (i dont know) have the same problem... but they dont closed or something..

TaeTae wrote:

hoppers are overpowered against noobs

I have seen you in game, you use a hopper.

azz33 wrote:

The only players that defend hoppers are the ones that use them and don't care if the game closes.

necrodrakath wrote:

i dont understean very good but... i think that cosmicbreak japan or corea (i dont know) have the same problem... but they dont closed or something..

Cosmicbreak corea, i heard they have like 50 players. And asians market is not like western market.

azz33 wrote:

Community passed from 1000 to 700 to 600-400(weekends probably even more) (the actual amount of players now).

fixed

SaberAlter wrote:

azz33 wrote:

Community passed from 1000 to 700 to 600-400(weekends probably even more) (the actual amount of players now).

fixed

Weekends have 200 players more, in weekdays have 300.

Vallyel wrote:

amateus

solar explosion

that is all

azz33 wrote:

SaberAlter wrote:

azz33 wrote:

Community passed from 1000 to 700 to 600-400(weekends probably even more) (the actual amount of players now).

fixed

Weekends have 200 players more, in weekdays have 300.

oh? then why are there 550 ppl online now? and this morning/afternoon around 400?

LordShade wrote:

amateus

solar explosion

that is all

and melee works as well

SaberAlter wrote:

azz33 wrote:

SaberAlter wrote:

fixed

Weekends have 200 players more, in weekdays have 300.

oh? then why are there 550 ppl online now? and this morning/afternoon around 400?

LordShade wrote:

amateus

solar explosion

that is all

and melee works as well

and shooting where they're going to land instead of at them in the air

I don't get why people don't do this, seriously.

SaberAlter wrote:

oh? then why are there 550 ppl online now? and this morning/afternoon around 400?

Considering there was an stress test where players reached 1500...its quite pathetic.

Also, arena (apart of lv 5 rooms) is empty, only 2-3 rooms and only 1 with a 20 vs 20.

Suguri wrote:

and shooting where they're going to land instead of at them in the air

I don't get why people don't do this, seriously.

Blame ROCKLOCK ON.

Easier to just fly over them and teabagtail wisp them in the face, hop that you midgets.

Anyhow *looks at OP* exaggerate much? People quit because they are terribad, because they got bored of the game or because they think Rt bots give people a huge advantage and there is no point playing if you not going Rt. Hoppers' effect on people quitting probably fits under the category of them being terribad. Absolutely agreed that Rt bots can easily be beaten if you simply play smart, issue is, there are people who play for fun, who'd do silly things like shove Prop BSJ on an Izuna simply because they think it looks cool, people who'd run around and only use guns with Jikun, then there are people who play to rape, who'd minmax their bots for maximum performance and just faceroll casual players, that's the case with all MMOs, but with CB's gameplay happening in a very closed environment and everything revolves around combat, that issue becomes a lot more significant and noticeable, and a lot more unbearable for casuals, doesn't help the fact that CB's target audience age group is somewhat low due to simplistic graphics and cutesy characters, and early teens are not exactly known for their strong will power and ability to endure hardship.

So...

Hop on.

C'mon,hopping takes skill (i tried it)
and its really easy to kill to0 >_>

and by RT bot,do you mean lazflamme?

azz33 wrote:

Thats the reason you don't need to buy money for be in the top 10.

Balance is needed for a F2P game to be somewhat fair to players who don't buy RT

azz33 wrote:

I have seen better games go from beta to full version with a "boom" and close 3 months later. It has passed one month since cosmicbreak full version appeared.

What does this have to do with it?

azz33 wrote:

Community passed from 1000 to 700 to 300 (the actual amount of players now).

Welcome to the internet,
Where everyone lives in different timezones.

azz33 wrote:

I blame free builds that are overpowered that make people realize they don't need to spend money for be on the top and make quit people that are bored of matches full of these.

They don't quit,
They get kicked out because they suck.
You must get kicked out of matching fairly easy if this is going to be half your arguement.

[quote="azz33"] You don't even need skill, just jump around enemy.[quote]
Nope.
You NEED skill to hop.
Otherwise you're just adding to the overall loss of CP on your side.

azz33 wrote:

I don't understand whats the logic in let a robot that cost 60$ be defeated by a free 800 game cost robot, apart of make the game fail faster.

I have 60$ robots that get killed by gunning jikuns,
So what?
The face Value is what encourages the usage of RT
Balance is needed for both sides on this matter two.

azz33 wrote:

An skilled free robot should be able to defeat a cash user.

You brought your point,
They need to be skilled to kill a regular player,
What now?

azz33 wrote:

A cash user should be able to defeat a free robot with ease.

If you keep on repeating yourself I will too.
Balance.

azz33 wrote:

A free robot should not be able to defeat a cash user with ease.

Balance.

azz33 wrote:

The only players that defend hoppers are the ones that use them and don't care if the game closes.

I barely use my hoppers,
Not really that fun.
I killed your argument,
Now what?
Cry some more,
Buy RT,
Stop using slow L sized bots,
And learn how to play.
Then see if you can try coming at me one on one,
Bro.

omG, desu degenerated a wall of text, is like he had mystic eyes of argumentation death perception. WHAT NOW???

name a mecha game with out hoppers beside mech warrior and mecha assult hopping is a legit strategy its been in armored core its been in virtual on

only reason I dont like hoppers cause they need to learn short boost when theres a GOD DAM spacebar

a easy counter for hoppers would be any zooka followed by a lol when they die ^__^

edit _-
@ desu NOT ALL L sized ARTS ARE SLOW my maxis has 15 walk

secondly hoppers are only hard 2 kill when noobs are around cause they like 2 crowd its just like with laguns and block all ur shots

I can attest to the "needs skill to hop" argument. I can't hop worth anything to save my life.

Quote :

only reason I dont like hoppers cause they need to learn short boost when theres a GOD DAM spacebar

You try hopping via spacebar and see why people learn Short Boost.

Desu wrote:

azz33 wrote:

Thats the reason you don't need to buy money for be in the top 10.

Balance is needed for a F2P game to be somewhat fair to players who don't buy RT

-Free izuna.
-Free shino.
-Free lily rain.
-Free tesladonna.
-Free lazflamme.

Theres no need of hoppers that can defeat ouka or other good rt units.

Desu wrote:

azz33 wrote:

I have seen better games go from beta to full version with a "boom" and close 3 months later. It has passed one month since cosmicbreak full version appeared.

What does this have to do with it?

Isn't it obvious?.

Great games can close early thanks to bad decitions.

Desu wrote:

azz33 wrote:

Community passed from 1000 to 700 to 300 (the actual amount of players now).

Welcome to the internet,
Where everyone lives in different timezones.

Cosmicbreak community can't reach more than 1000 players now and in the first days of full version it was at 1500.

Desu wrote:

azz33 wrote:

I blame free builds that are overpowered that make people realize they don't need to spend money for be on the top and make quit people that are bored of matches full of these.

They don't quit,
They get kicked out because they suck.
You must get kicked out of matching fairly easy if this is going to be half your arguement.

You are probably be a hopper that doesn't care about the game.

How can you be so sure players don't quit?.

Thats what hoppers players do, ignore the problems of the game so they can keep using their overpowered builds to get to the first place.

Desu wrote:

azz33 wrote:

You don't even need skill, just jump around enemy.

Nope.
You NEED skill to hop.
Otherwise you're just adding to the overall loss of CP on your side.

Press space and choose a direction, thats skill?.

Desu wrote:

azz33 wrote:

An skilled free robot should be able to defeat a cash user.

You brought your point,
They need to be skilled to kill a regular player,
What now?

azz33 wrote:

A cash user should be able to defeat a free robot with ease.

If you keep on repeating yourself I will too.
Balance.

azz33 wrote:

A free robot should not be able to defeat a cash user with ease.

Balance.

That may work in fantasy, but in real life where money matters, balance is not important.

A free robot should not be able to defeat a cash robot with ease, and the only one that breaks that rule are hoppers.

Desu wrote:

azz33 wrote:

The only players that defend hoppers are the ones that use them and don't care if the game closes.

I barely use my hoppers,
Not really that fun.
I killed your argument,
Now what?
Cry some more,
Buy RT,
Stop using slow L sized bots,
And learn how to play.
Then see if you can try coming at me one on one,
Bro.

I knew it, you are a hopper user.

What argument?. I never said hoppers were fun, just overpowered.

"Learn how to play", you haven't seen me play.


So far 2 hoppers commented and both said "lol my overpowered robot is fine", what a coincidence.

Handy Lazer Takes Down hoppers like they are nothing even with the fact it is nerfed...

NovaZero wrote:

I can attest to the "needs skill to hop" argument. I can't hop worth anything to save my life.

Quote :

only reason I dont like hoppers cause they need to learn short boost when theres a GOD DAM spacebar

You try hopping via spacebar and see why people learn Short Boost.

ya true dis game manged to fuck dat up

be happy u cant hop like a real hoppers like dis vid down below cause Id be one of those hoppers if it worker like it was supposed 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szIUYdqs3bQ dats real hopping

Ima edit dis post or make my own if I can find some hoppers in exteel and virtual on on youtube

any was u got gay ass auto aim and a tonned down excuse for hopping 2 deal with stop bitching just adjust ur aim only times a hoppers is a porblem is with burst fire

I like killing hoppers with my Stardust cannons.


Hoppers are just annoying; they're not really THAT bad. But I gotta hand it to them for sticking with it. I tried a hopper and got pretty bored of it after like 3 matches.

There are several RT bots that are far more op then the hoppers, I'm looking at you vanguard fencer, lily eve, frau, ivis, ouka. Honestly though, if you manually shoot at the hoppers its not that hard to kill them. Since some of them are quite mindless and just hop in a straight line. Like all things even if they happen to be OP there's a correct way to use it and a wrong way to use it. Give a newbie the best bot in the world and they'll still die due to lack of experience.

Balance is important in a pvp game, like the others have said if you pay attention you won't be killed that easily. Zerg rush the base and you die. (Unless you're byne). We already have several bots that were supposed to be rt but were not. CBJP was alot harsher then EN was. The fact we got lily rain, crim, and jikun as starters makes life alot easier. Its just the newer people dont' know how to play them properly. We'd lose more players if there were more of the OP bots i mentioned in the beginning. Just no, no more super melee gods.

I'm quite glad with what CB did with balancing for the most part aside the normal OP stuff which i mentioned earlier. If more games had that balance more people would play. Its just this game in particular cyberstep is doing a horrible job of advertising, and community communication, as well as the standard money hungry garapon. C.S. needs to rethink how this game should be managed >.>. The gameplay itself though is overall fine ._., more needs to be added to the other mode features insted of just pvp.

Just be happy reniroppu hasn't shown up yet, she is one of the most powerful hopper types due to her built in dodge flip skill as well as high base stats >.>. (she is garapon though and for good reason she makes all the other hoppers look silly).

Raven wrote:

I like killing hoppers with my Stardust cannons.

lol Yes. Using a Stardust Cannon works so freaking well.

azz33 wrote:

A free robot should not be able to defeat a cash robot with ease, and the only one that breaks that rule are hoppers.

My UC Shino takes down Sturbangers and Saggitary with ease, omgmaiShinoizOPtoo!

Point being, UC builds like hoppers, lagkuns, etc. are what prevents Cosmic Break from turning into a Pay-to-Win game. Buying Rt only gives you a wider variety in the customization and in the robots you can use, but it does not ensure you any sure-chance to kill a UC player without any ideas in how to use your builds.

Also, unless I enter a room full of hoppers, I won't even consider them a threat at all.

OP still butthurt over losing Ivis from Beta transition.

Problem?

And OP, you don't need short boost
To succeed at cosmicbreak
I have a frog, a turtle, and a ninja
None of them with boost
Easy top 10