3 Lazflamme builds Sway/Hopper/Melee

Hi guys, thanks for dropping by! So, I'm well and truly in love with LazFlamme, she's amazing and I've just level 10'd one and now I want to do another. So I was wondering, could you guys tell me if I'm doing it right?

here's my Sway lazflamme, this is my main bot and I think she's lovely, but tell me what you think!

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Now, next, I have a little Rt saved up from the UC->Rt conversion and I'd like to get another Lazflamme, but this time having her own parts that have slots, rather than making a bit of a monster of her with the parts I had!
This first one is a pretty safe hopper version, and I've pretty much ripped this from a thread somewhere in this forum

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OR, AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE I WANT YOUR CRITS, this is where I play it a little less safe, as Lazflamme is a LND bot, I really feel that she should be up to the task of melee, so I had a fiddle with the cosmicalc and I came up with this melee version of her...

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So, thanks for taking the time to read this far down, and let me know which of those you'd go for, if i'm doing it wrong, or any improvements/advice you can give me!

Thank you!

Get rid of "Great" tunes, they're horrible!

And also, here is the Lazflamme thread.

http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t3449-ro-lazflamme-and-you?highlight=Lazflamme

LXE wrote:

Get rid of "Great" tunes, they're horrible!

But, if I don't have anymore slots, how would I get the stats higher?

LXE wrote:

And also, here is the Lazflamme thread.

http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t3449-ro-lazflamme-and-you?highlight=Lazflamme

Yeah, that's the one! should I have posted this there? I'm sorry...

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I'm sorry...

It's ok.

Also, Great tunes are a bit risky, since you're using a lot more capa than normal or high tunes. An excuse would be if you don't have parts with 3 slots for laz. If not, PM me on a later Bazaar for some parts you may need, and i'll help you there if i have said parts (won a 3S laz on a challe cube once )

Edit: Also, you wanted opinions for your third build, and i say this then: If you're planning to use Laz's dual spear bit, then you must have a tech of at least one, because if not the bit will have a much smaller duration (dunno forsure, because i never tried it).

Gerrion wrote:

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I'm sorry...

It's ok.

Also, Great tunes are a bit risky, since you're using a lot more capa than normal or high tunes. An excuse would be if you don't have parts with 3 slots for laz. If not, PM me on a later Bazaar for some parts you may need, and i'll help you there if i have said parts (won a 3S laz on a challe cube once )

Wow, I'd love a 3s Laz! XD But I didn't think Laz parts could be traded in the Bazaar? But, if they can, I'll be throwing my money at the screen! XD

But yeah, the Rt Lazflamme in the shop only comes with two slots for each part, so a little low on space, the great tunes become a bit of a necessity!

Like LXE said, you need to drop the Great tunes (Unless you have a lot of spare capacity and less than 5 slots left total). The only great tunes I use are Great [name] GAMMA tunes for getting high in one stat. +3 stat in one area for -1 stat in every other area at just 10 cost. You can easily make up the lost stats with other High [name] tunes if you have enough slots left over.

Also: Melee Lazflamme is a pretty bad idea. Her HP is far too low to effectively do what she needs to do when it comes to meleeing, and a Lance has really horrible accuracy for a melee weapon. And if you plan on using your Dual Lance Bit, you MUST have her TEC be at LEAST 1. If you have it at 0 or lower, your wonderbit duration will literally be three seconds.

LXE wrote:

Get rid of "Great" tunes, they're horrible!

And also, here is the Lazflamme thread.

http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t3449-ro-lazflamme-and-you?highlight=Lazflamme

Wow what a shitty guide, whoever wrote that must be really bad at this game.

Seriously, don't read that.

@OP
Third build is beyond saving, Laz isn't really cut out for melee.

Tunes on the second build are a mess too, and unless you're really set on keeping her stock parts I'd heavily recommend scrapping the laz bs. Put weapon tunes on the scouter rifle, drop the great tunes, minmax better.

I appreciate that, thank you. I wont use great tunes unless I'm out of slots
And thanks for the bit on the wonder-bit! I didn't know that!!! So tech must be at least 1...

I really wanted to give Laz a lance, as it's pretty much her character item! But yeah, it's a bit unwieldy...
Ah, so much learnings! ;w;

Also, hello Suguri, too late! I've already read it and memorised it!!!
Thank you for that guide! I'd never have levelled my Laz past 5 if I hadn't read that!!! Now she's my main <3 THANK YOU! *glomp*

Suguri wrote:

LXE wrote:

Get rid of "Great" tunes, they're horrible!

And also, here is the Lazflamme thread.

http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t3449-ro-lazflamme-and-you?highlight=Lazflamme

Wow what a shitty guide, whoever wrote that must be really bad at this game.

Seriously, don't read that.

. . .

Suguri, It's about time you updated that.

LXE wrote:

Suguri wrote:

LXE wrote:

Get rid of "Great" tunes, they're horrible!

And also, here is the Lazflamme thread.

http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t3449-ro-lazflamme-and-you?highlight=Lazflamme

Wow what a shitty guide, whoever wrote that must be really bad at this game.

Seriously, don't read that.

. . .

Suguri, It's about time you updated that.

Or you could just not read it.

...why do you have triple Run tunes?

Those are hard to do; low probability. Usually you put priority on using High tunes

EDIT: Lol melee Laz

Don't stay on the ground. Unless you're spamming no skill gara moe whores stay off the ground.

Suguri wrote:

Or you could just not read it.

I really should be careful to what pages I link to... >_>

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Wow what a shitty guide, whoever wrote that must be really bad at this game.

Or didn't had the experience he has right now. We all gain experience with time and matches, so it's ok about this type of things. Though i'd advise to either update it or make a new one and place a link to it in the old one, now that the wound has been touched.

Sway in current meta?

Thank you all for your comments, I guess the truth is, noobs are gonna noob...
But we have to learn somehow! I'll be sure to take all your comments on board!

【Robot Name】
LazFlamme

【Parts】
BD： LazFlamme BD
　： Lance Bit(default)
　： LazFlamme LG [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Beta]
　　： Accel Saber BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha]
　： LazFlamme HD
　　： Cute Beret
　　： Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Tech Alpha]
　： Accel Saber BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [Run]
　： Build Arm AM [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
　　： Scout Rifle
　： Build Arm AM [High Run Alpha] [High Tough Alpha] [High Tough Alpha]
　　： Buckler [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]

【Config Check】
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

【Stats】
TYPE： 陸
SIZE： S
COST： 950
CAPA： 985
HP： 374
STR： -3
TEC： 24
WLK： 36
FLY： 1
TGH： 12

LEVEL： 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +80×6
Blast Guard
Stun Regain
Short Boost
Quick Land

if you are really planning not to use bits ever, this one hops with a scouter,I dunno what tunes to put on a scouter rifle so..... I leave you with around 30 odd capa to play around with

Sacrificing bits on LND/SUP gunners is a really, really bad idea.

Suguri wrote:

Sacrificing bits on LND/SUP gunners is a really, really bad idea.

I was about to say this, but Suguri ninja'd me on it.

Gunners for SUP and LND units really have to rely on their WBs (Most specifically: Dual Spike Bits). It really highers your chance of survival and dealing out more damage before you die.

>3 slot Buckler for a newcomer

Seriously? Where the hell is he going to get a 3-slot Buckler from this early on?

Scouter Rifle is quest drop; he'll take forever getting at it

Build Arm AMs...I guess he might have those already

Did he say that he has a 2-slot Laz and a 0-slot one?

I feel like Accel Saber parts will be easier to get at TBH. They're far costlier than Build Arm AMs but give a pretty good bunch of stats and don't require as much tuning.

tehprognoob wrote:

I feel like Accel Saber parts will be easier to get at TBH. They're far costlier than Build Arm AMs but give a pretty good bunch of stats and don't require as much tuning.

No, they expand your hitbox and are horrible AMs for S/M bots.

>people thinking Accel Saber AMs are bad
why do I even bother coming here anymore

AM: Accel, Build Arm, Ghost Raider, Tarantulic, MAYBE Lily, otherwise other obvious shit
BS: Froglander/Shino for TEC, Pawnger for HP, Volcanics for WLK, NEXT for NEXT, no exceptions
LG: Usual shit (well okay all of this should be common sense but this moreso I guess)
LGJ: Force Barrier

If you can somehow screw up Laz from here you're not worth the time.

TBH I agree with Sugu more.

Slightly bigger hitbox doesn't really matter...I mean..Vox, TBG, Fia, Vanguards...

A little bigger no longer matters because the entire meta is fucking homings and giant explosions/melee/zero types

EDIT: After looking at uguuri's lazbuild

【Robot Name】
LazFlamme

【Parts】
BD： LazFlamme BD
　： Dual 3way Bit
　： Force Barrier LGJ
　　： LazFlamme LG [High Run Alpha] [Clearance] [Clearance]
　　　： Frog Lander BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
　： LazFlamme HD
　　： Cute Beret [High Tech Alpha]
　　： Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Tech Alpha]
　： Frog Lander BS [High Run Alpha] [Run] [High Tech Beta]
　： Build Arm AM [High Tech Beta] [Tech] [High Tech Beta]
　　： Pierce Gun [Great Force Beta] [High Air Force] [Tech]
　： Build Arm AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Beta]
　　： Buckler [Tech] [High Run Alpha] [High Run]

【Config Check】
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

【Stats】
TYPE： 陸
SIZE： S
COST： 1065
CAPA： 1065
HP： 393
STR： 1
TEC： 33
WLK： 28
FLY： 1
TGH： 7

LEVEL： 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +80×7
Short Boost
Quick Jump
Quick Land

【必要素材】
Hidora Cosmos×4
Fudara Cosmos×15
Threede Cosmos×1
Fourda Cosmos×1
Red Chip×65
Blue Chip×40
Green Chip×95
Rainbow Chip×31
Stabilizer×76
Engine Shaft×63
Strike Metal×9
Rapid Crystal×133
Drum Magazine×21
Guide Circuit×43
Heat Ash×23
Snail Liquid×46
Acid Gel×15
Hulk Meteorite×100
Handa Cosmos×2

tehprognoob wrote:

>3 slot Buckler for a newcomer

Seriously? Where the hell is he going to get a 3-slot Buckler from this early on?

Scouter Rifle is quest drop; he'll take forever getting at it

Build Arm AMs...I guess he might have those already

Did he say that he has a 2-slot Laz and a 0-slot one?

I feel like Accel Saber parts will be easier to get at TBH. They're far costlier than Build Arm AMs but give a pretty good bunch of stats and don't require as much tuning.

Bazaar, he already got scouter rifle since he listed it

I don't know what parts and weapons you have to work with so... ]: Scout rifle/tried to keep it relatively uc friendly, and a different RTweapon one.


【Robot Name】
LazFlamme

【Parts】
BD： LazFlamme BD
　： Dual Spike Bit
　： LazFlamme LG
　　： Frog Lander BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [Run]
　： LazFlamme HD
　　： Cute Beret [High Run Alpha]
　　： Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Run Alpha]
　： Frog Lander BS [Run] [Run] [High Run Alpha]
　： Accel Saber AM [Run] [Run] [Run]
　　： Buckler [High Tech Beta] [Run]
　： Accel Saber AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]
　　： Scout Rifle [High Tech Beta] [Tech]

【Config Check】
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

【Stats】
TYPE： 陸
SIZE： S
COST： 905
CAPA： 905
HP： 355
STR： 1
TEC： 27
WLK： 30
FLY： 1
TGH： 10

LEVEL： 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +80×5
Blast Guard
Stun Regain
Short Boost
Quick Jump
Quick Land

【必要素材】
Hidora Cosmos×8
Fudara Cosmos×10
Red Chip×25
Green Chip×75
Stabilizer×30
Engine Shaft×80
Guide Circuit×15
Snail Liquid×35


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【Robot Name】
LazFlamme

【Parts】
BD： LazFlamme BD
　： Dual Spike Bit
　： LazFlamme LG [High Run Alpha] [Clearance] [Clearance]
　　： Frog Lander BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha]
　： LazFlamme HD
　　： Cute Beret [High Run Alpha]
　　： Ace of Hearts Earrings [High Run Alpha]
　： Frog Lander BS [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Tech Beta]
　： Accel Saber AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
　　： Buckler [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
　： Build Arm AM [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
　　： Pierce Gun [Great Rapid Beta] [Rapid] [Rapid]

【Config Check】
COST： OK
BS： OK
LG： OK

【Stats】
TYPE： 陸
SIZE： S
COST： 985
CAPA： 985
HP： 384
STR： 1
TEC： 33
WLK： 30
FLY： 1
TGH： 9

LEVEL： 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +80×6
Stun Regain
Short Boost
Quick Jump
Quick Land

【必要素材】
Fudara Cosmos×17
Ones Cosmos×2
Threede Cosmos×1
Red Chip×80
Blue Chip×20
Green Chip×130
Rainbow Chip×20
Stabilizer×73
Engine Shaft×72
Rapid Crystal×127
Guide Circuit×55
Heat Ash×15
Snail Liquid×56
Hulk Meteorite×100
Handa Cosmos×2