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PostSubject: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 6:49 am

what is more important on a hopper fly or walk

I dont abuse hoping only use it when need it helps survive but most times when I 1vs 1 hoppers they out shoot me I do good dmg but die

also Ive only been using hoppers for 2 weeks now and my maxis dosent have short boost T___T

anyway please say walk is better all my art have +15 walk T__T aside from ama with 18 fly untuned

heres my hoppers

contradict (a very mobile art I was shocked)

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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 7:09 am

Rule #1)
You need Short Boost and Quick Land. If you do not have both, you will die because you are not a hopper.

Rule #2)
You need at least ~20 Walk, ~1-10 Fly and as much Toughness as you can squander (10 minimum). Toughness is important; getting stunned mid-hop leaves you open to the pain train that is the swarm of bullets you were just hopping through.

Rule #3)
You should be aiming for the smallest profile possible. Artillery units are often not a good choice for this because of how fat they are (in addition to their relative lack of access to both SB and QL).

TL;DR:
Get Short Boost. Get Quick Land. Get Steel Rider Zookas. Hop. Stop saying "free kill" in Global.
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 7:17 am

hmm that dosent fit my goal Im tryna make a highly mobile art to create a new play style for cb one more shooter based

experiment fails I can just buy cart resets

edit thats kai kai fault i dislike him/her to the point I will throw a game if there on my team

I dont even remember why I dont like dis person I have issues 0_o
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 7:41 am

Highly Mobile Artillery?
Does... Not... Compute...
*boom*
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 7:45 am

Septium wrote:
Highly Mobile Artillery?
Does... Not... Compute...
*boom*
I think I can tune my contradicts walk to 20 and my ama has 18 fly
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 7:58 am

>mobile Art

Lily Rain is what you need to look into. Fly or Walk; doesn't matter, but she is the only viable platform, and I'll tell you why.

You see, most hoppers are Land because Land has an innate speed multiplier to their Walk. In other words, a Land with 20 Walk is about as fast as an Art/Sup with ... roughly 27 Walk? I don't recall the exact ratio, only that Art/Sup will never be particularly fast compared to Land.

This isn't a huge issue until you notice that Art doesn't actually have any good Art-specific weaponry. The end result: you're slower and using the same weapons a Land could use, or worse weapons (see: Sturbanger)... let alone the Art bots that outright can't hop (and the players that are dead-set on not hopping for... whatever emotion-based rationale they hide behind).

But I digress:
Lily Rain. 40 Fly. Blast Zookas. Misside AMs. Build Arm BS. And yer done.
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 8:06 am

Since its ART. FLY is usually prefered over WLK since it allows u to get to high spots better and avoid melees better.
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 8:11 am

Destructor
Viper shield
Large bazooka.
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 8:20 am

Destructor
Titan Bazooka
Viper Shield
Thoarla LG (RT Only)
Short Boost.
Accel Roll (RT Only)
Ramjet Launcher (If you're lucky)
You. Are. Done.
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 8:30 am

hopper art?

try hoverion

small core (take the LGs off), high WLK, moderate TGH, and access to both carts IIRC
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 9:20 am

necrio wrote:
hopper art?

try hoverion

small core (take the LGs off), high WLK, moderate TGH, and access to both carts IIRC

Did you mean 'Hopperion'
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 9:46 am

Nisa wrote:
necrio wrote:
hopper art?

try hopperion

small core (take the LGs off), high WLK, moderate TGH, and access to both carts IIRC

Did you mean 'Hopperion'
there, I fixed it
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 9:49 am

HOPPING ARTS?? Shocked
Hopperion may be pretty good but I'd like to try the Destructo HPR with Titan zooks
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 10:28 am

RoboFranky wrote:
HOPPING ARTS?? Shocked
Hopperion may be pretty good but I'd like to try the Destructo HPR with Titan zooks
make sure you get misslebox destructor.
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 5:08 pm

Nisa wrote:
RoboFranky wrote:
HOPPING ARTS?? Shocked
Hopperion may be pretty good but I'd like to try the Destructo HPR with Titan zooks
make sure you get misslebox destructor.


Ivis from wiz actualy made a hopping destrutor cn before this is before everyone had a hopper or knew wat it is

hopping on arts well it really increases the survival rate but plays alot diff than land hoppers

about the walk ting I see did not know there was a difference if they have the same stats
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 5:42 pm

>he uses hoppers

oh boy
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 5:47 pm

boytitan2 wrote:

Ivis from wiz actualy made a hopping destrutor cn before this is before everyone had a hopper or knew wat it is

i lol'd
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 5:53 pm

Hopping art?
Only pro Riri rein or Hoverion
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyWed Feb 09, 2011 4:18 am

Doesn't Amateus have access to both short boost and quick land? Plus his core weapon is pretty good. Just equip S size parts on him.

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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyWed Feb 09, 2011 7:27 am

zappa1 wrote:
Doesn't Amateus have access to both short boost and quick land? Plus his core weapon is pretty good. Just equip S size parts on him.

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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyWed Feb 09, 2011 9:31 am

Fenix: HOPPER?

SO EZ (like a squishy)

GOGO SHORT BOOST
GOGO QUICK LAND
GOGO HOMING WEAPON
YOU DONE.

FOR MORE MANLY: GOGO SMALL PROFILE
GOGO HIGH WLK
GOGO HIGH TGH
GOGO DESTRUCTOR
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PostSubject: Re: need help with hopper builds   need help with hopper builds EmptyWed Feb 09, 2011 3:07 pm

piroton wrote:
Fenix: HOPPER?

SO EZ (like a squishy)

GOGO SHORT BOOST
GOGO QUICK LAND
GOGO HOMING WEAPON
YOU DONE.

FOR MORE MANLY: GOGO SMALL PROFILE
GOGO HIGH WLK
GOGO HIGH TGH
GOGO DESTRUCTOR






sorry u said gogo so much first thing that came 2 mind boy I miss being a kid now =|

if only jason david frank (the green white red black ranger) would play dis going out in his mma fights
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Lol, Maril March.
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