Anti-lag system

Aria wrote:

Stickboy wrote:

As a lagger, anti-lag system makes me twitching and teleporting around. But!

http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t5317-guide-anti-connection-lag-sort-of

I didn't twitch, and this works well for me~ I love you, Aria~

YOu owe me lotsa RT

I am happy too aria, your guide saved my arse

>Ivis
>Full HP
>Against Ouka
>Half HP
-Before Patch
Ivis kills Ouka!
-After Patch
Wtf killed me?

Well that was my situation back a while ago.
Least my connection to JP is stable, but i wont be able to fly airs for a while, or go on melee suicides........... (Gotta config my Hatigarm ASLT as well meh)
Haven't tested EN, but i'm sure it'd be
>Graphical Lag
>Connection Lag
>Altitude Drop
>Shit hitting you, without graphically being hit.
>and Staggering Movements.

This is kinda shitty when the game 'really' lags.

effing teleporting D:

Guess i'm fine.

raznazn wrote:

Spoiler:

Guess i'm fine.

until u test to san francisco

Testing to San Fran results from Chattanooga, TN....





No problems yet here since patch....

I don't see the problem for people with sub 300 ping actually, I have high 300s ping, I don't lag .... I think

Would probably be better if I wasn't tethering off lolAT&T

ping to LA servers: 149
jitter: 1
lag: i now have it. to clarify, i had 0 lag before, and now i teleport.
sensicals: 0

Report from last night:
-Fuerza_Latina members teleport a bit, but their lagshields are down. Still a bit of a challenge to kill since a good number of them have a tendency to use High HP melee units with a minimum of 3 shields.
-Indo_For_Revenge have not been spotted in their usual high numbers. I encountered a few of them in Arena and can confirm that their lagshields are down. They teleport more than F_L members, but you can hit them for sure. The bastards who talk big are hiding like the cowards that they really are. HUNT THEM DOWN.
-βμττενξζγ members still lag like beasts and teleport. The lagshields are still present, but they are weakened. You can actually hit them and they will take damage. Encountered a member running around with a Kuten Jikun Long. Walked right through direct hits from my Vanguard (though the player at least DIED LATER) and killed allied ARTs I had tried to defend.

Well, CB's new system definitely has room for improvement, but it seems to be helping somewhat. I think some of the laggers have been scared away, since the risk of a loss of control can be very scary. I still see the occasional bot teleporting into the ground, but only with bots that have some sort of teleport ability (mostly Jikuns), and not with fencers anymore. I can occasionally see what look like bots that the server's moving (presumably to avoid lagporting).

A question about the new system: if you lag, move while lagging, and the server attempts to move you normally while you lag but guesses wrong (that is, the server moves you somewhere and you moved somewhere else in your client), when the server has to reconcile your position with your client, does it use the client position or the server position?

Klinkin wrote:

Well, CB's new system definitely has room for improvement, but it seems to be helping somewhat. I think some of the laggers have been scared away, since the risk of a loss of control can be very scary. I still see the occasional bot teleporting into the ground, but only with bots that have some sort of teleport ability (mostly Jikuns), and not with fencers anymore. I can occasionally see what look like bots that the server's moving (presumably to avoid lagporting).

A question about the new system: if you lag, move while lagging, and the server attempts to move you normally while you lag but guesses wrong (that is, the server moves you somewhere and you moved somewhere else in your client), when the server has to reconcile your position with your client, does it use the client position or the server position?

Server I think.

Yesterday after a lag spike (which quite a few people had), the game rolled be back to the same position 3 times (and died because of that), and it was a position where I never been to during the whole match, but it was in the direction from where I was running towards before I turned right after the spike.

Will hunt down indofags when c21en CBT ends, bet there's a greater deal of WIZ players wanting to do that, kinda a shame there's no union & union vs union.

Wonder if faggots will keep rolling their crappy dual shields hopmateus and clusters

Turkeysaur wrote:

Will hunt down indofags when c21en CBT ends, bet there's a greater deal of WIZ players wanting to do that, kinda a shame there's no union & union vs union.

Wonder if faggots will keep rolling their crappy dual shields hopmateus and clusters

They do. But now they hide behind the pillars and spam the subweapon. The moment that they notice that you are looking at them, they run as fast as they can! XDDD

IndoLagAbusers are now at the back of the pact after the patch ._.

Aria wrote:

IndoLagAbusers are now at the back of the pact after the patch ._.

It's not stopping them from using lag profiting robots though.

falcon1 wrote:

Aria wrote:

IndoLagAbusers are now at the back of the pact after the patch ._.

It's not stopping them from using lag profiting robots though.

Well I did blast their kuten in pointblank range with EVE 16 hours ago and they're NOT MOVING AT ALL ._.

To all people who hate the anti-lag system.
Have a look in this thread.
http://www.cosmicbreak.com/commu/?m=pc&a=page_c_topic_detail&target_c_commu_topic_id=6020

LXE, while I agree with some of your points, you can't really ask them to upgrade their servers. This is the only MMO I know that averages 300 people online at a time, mainly thanks to gameplay.

CB is niche, style and content wise. It's an FPS with differing bullet speeds, majority homing bullets, massive health bars, and completely different stats based on farming/upgrading body parts. You can't skillfully headshot people - you just sort of spam a great deal of bullets in the other team's general direction. I'm not saying this is a skilless game, it just requires a different kind of skill. Also it's only ever fun in battles of huge teams, comprised as they are of people you usually don't know. Garapon is firmly aimed at a certain type of player. It's not appealing to most to have to spend tons of money with the prospect of small returns (cash shops in other games give you what you pay for).

Because the game's not mainstream enough, the devs don't have any real incentive to go about upgrading/getting more servers. It's not as if a perfect lag-killing system will bring in more players either. It would probably be for the best just to get rid of this new system. I agree with a lot of your points - I'm now teleporting everywhere for God knows why.

Anyway, these are just the opinions of a very casual player; feel free to retort.

Rinrin wrote:

until u test to san francisco

Lowered a bit but still will be fine.

Hating anti-lag are usually the people that lags themselves. >_> As much as the patch renders me from playing from my dorm often, I just take the option to play at home, where there is no latency issues and lags. (I do lag from time to time in my dorm, just take another option to play elsewhere, where things are better).

In a way, I'm against the removal of the anti-lag. Since it makes hitting derpy seraph, troll MBG and such much more easier especially when they're having lag-shield.

So, w/e

I'm still all in favor of the anti-lag system myself(sorry LXE, you know me!)...so far, my biggest issue with it being that it's forced me to mentally re-calculate the exact moment I can bust out a Bugsy-shield to stop melee-spammers in their tracks...and it's not easy doing this now, especially since the -good- ones have gotten wise to my game-play style and started after me with the longer ranged melee weapons!

It needs tweaking, I will readily admit, but it's definitely a step in the right direction...; I've seen a HUGE drop-off in the number of lag-warping melee-spammers, and haven't seen a single Seraph spamming tackle since!

lol, it's not anti-lag system in anyway
they should rename this as anti-lagger system
it's easier for my melee to hit now
although when they put treshold on 300ms, i can't play at all =.=
too many jitter on my ISP

Nymph~ wrote:

too many jitter on my ISP

Jitters can be avoided by "forcing" packets to send immediately.

orz, i give up
that commandline hurts me
I don't really need it anyway, it's just my friends suffer from this patch greathly

Aria wrote:

Nymph~ wrote:

too many jitter on my ISP

Jitters can be avoided by "forcing" packets to send immediately.

meh, jitter only means our line unstable. mostly because noise (bad cable/etc) or old hardware
jitter is variance of ping, if we have 200 ms ping and 50 ms jitter, that's mean our ping is 150-250ms (correct me if i wrong)