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PostSubject: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 10:47 pm

Have you ever wanted to answer the phone and you don't want to be kicked out of the room? There is a way of doing this and that is to just hold down spacebar and let your bot bob up and down. Apparently this is what some people claimed that Fia was doing just that, because she was trying to talk on the phone. I do not know the integrity of this information, but some people say that she was actually botting.

Here's the topic on site's forum - http://www.cosmicbreak.com/community/forum/topic/5902

EDIT - The link is broken because the thread has been deleted.

What do you think of this?


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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 10:48 pm

I read that post 30 minutes ago, and I felt like creating a topic about it, but I'd figured it'd be pointless since I thought there were a lot of people who already saw the post.
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 10:51 pm

Astral_Goddess wrote:
I read that post 30 minutes ago, and I felt like creating a topic about it, but I'd figured it'd be pointless since I thought there were a lot of people who already saw the post.
There's still a lot of people who haven't.
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 10:51 pm

I CANNOT CONTAIN MY RAGE ANY FURTHER

I NEED TO BREAK SOMETHING GOD DAMN IT CS
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 10:54 pm

Well since some one has been banned for that kind of shit, I won't be surprised if there is another innocent player that will face the same fate.



Come to think of it how come GaiDaiGoji was never banned? A lot of people reported him, plus some has those video evidence.
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 10:55 pm

inb4 I get banned for "botting" because I'm cooking for my family tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 10:59 pm

We summoned Tempura to IRC :3c
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:00 pm

just don't bot... that is all.. no matter the source botting is botting... if he was on a call he was botting and bad luck, a GM got him!

My cousing was banned (in another game) when we were recording a video, but the GM believes we were abusing... I know how he feels but unfortunately that is botting (in a very low profile bu it's)
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:01 pm

when you see a player who happens to be a circle, and plays as good as Vyolets or Astral_God and plays for extensive hours without breaks, then you know its a bot.

what Cyberstep sees is a player whos gonna spend a lot of money on RT.

but when you see a player bobbing up and you know its just a player whose needs to be AFK for a while

what Cyberstep sees: "OMG ITS BOBBING!!!!!!11! ROBOTS DON'T BOB!211|! HAXORZ WEMMA BAN YOU!!!@!@!!112!
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:03 pm

snippit from IRC right now

+LordShade> Tempura breaking his own rules
Memento_Mori> Intentional AFKing/botting: Warning > 1 week ban > 1 month ban > Permaban
+LordShade> derp
&GM-Tempura> the rules also say that they're only guidlines
Choja> You may have been ousted on this one.
&GM-Tempura> and not to quote them
* Memento_Mori facepalms
Choja> Wellllllll what's the point of them then
SaikyouNoKaze> Hehehe
Nials> so yeah
* +LordShade falls over in his chair
Nials> why post these rules?
&GM-Tempura> guidelines
Nials> or call them rules at all?
* Miie facedesks
Nials> what is a rule in that thing?
Nials> what is a guideline?
Eiki> Tempura are there any rules?

Tempura breaking his own rules, and then pulling the 'guidelines' excuse, pfft.

also apparently if you take screenshots of people teampillaring and send to cyberstep you can get banned for 1 week as well. this is news.
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:07 pm

subzero1112 wrote:
when you see a player who happens to be a circle, and plays as good as Vyolets or Astral_God and plays for extensive hours without breaks, then you know its a bot.

what Cyberstep sees is a player whos gonna spend a lot of money on RT.

but when you see a player bobbing up and you know its just a player whose needs to be AFK for a while

what Cyberstep sees: "OMG ITS BOBBING!!!!!!11! ROBOTS DON'T BOB!211|! HAXORZ WEMMA BAN YOU!!!@!@!!112!

Someone obviously doesnt get what botting is. Botting in games where AI is somewhat retarded is easy, as the motions needed to be made are repetitive and general. The complicity of each map combined with the randomness of each fight makes it highly unlikely that a bot could keep up in CB. Botting in CB is more common where they simply hold the space bar(through a macro or through physically holding it down with something) to coast through games for either EXP or cubes.

Fia does neither ofc, and I feel its not right for such a severe punishment over a one time offense, while several hundreds of players bot daily and are left unscathed.
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:08 pm

Seriously, she was just there in arena been quiet and playing ninja around. She only talk went is necessary and reply back.

There is no proof of Fia botting, CyberStep action are very suspicious now.

Fia is a Innocent Chibi.
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:10 pm

Sooooo, Just because someone doesn't speak in the match,,, they are botting?
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:12 pm

Trill wrote:
subzero1112 wrote:
when you see a player who happens to be a circle, and plays as good as Vyolets or Astral_God and plays for extensive hours without breaks, then you know its a bot.

what Cyberstep sees is a player whos gonna spend a lot of money on RT.

but when you see a player bobbing up and you know its just a player whose needs to be AFK for a while

what Cyberstep sees: "OMG ITS BOBBING!!!!!!11! ROBOTS DON'T BOB!211|! HAXORZ WEMMA BAN YOU!!!@!@!!112!

Someone obviously doesnt get what botting is. Botting in games where AI is somewhat retarded is easy, as the motions needed to be made are repetitive and general. The complicity of each map combined with the randomness of each fight makes it highly unlikely that a bot could keep up in CB. Botting in CB is more common where they simply hold the space bar(through a macro or through physically holding it down with something) to coast through games for either EXP or cubes.

Fia does neither ofc, and I feel its not right for such a severe punishment over a one time offense, while several hundreds of players bot daily and are left unscathed.
My understanding of is that getting an AI to play the game for you while you relax, but I'm thinking now that these are only for MMORPGs right?
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:14 pm

Retrias wrote:
Sooooo, Just because someone doesn't speak in the match,,, they are botting?

oshit

unless i'm playing as carrigan i never speak in global or member chat

someone halp i'm gonna get banzor'd ;_;

EDIT: If I'm not mistaken, technically speaking placing an object on your spacebar would be considered a macro (a tool that automates certain actions), not a bot (an AI designed to play the game for you)


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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:15 pm

LordShade wrote:
also apparently if you take screenshots of people teampillaring and send to cyberstep you can get banned for 1 week as well. this is news.
Seriously? We try to report them and both of US get banned?


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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:22 pm

Midreus wrote:
Retrias wrote:
Sooooo, Just because someone doesn't speak in the match,,, they are botting?

oshit

unless i'm playing as carrigan i never speak in global or member chat

someone halp i'm gonna get banzor'd ;_;

EDIT: If I'm not mistaken, technically speaking placing an object on your spacebar would be considered a macro (a tool that automates certain actions), not a bot (an AI designed to play the game for you)


then again as carrigan , the antic we do......
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:23 pm

Do nothing, receive endless complaints.
Take action against suspicious activity, receive endless complaints.

People are just blinded by mindless Fia fanboy-ism. No matter how you look at it, standing in place holding space bar for extended periods of time is generally considered `botting.' Should Fia be unbanned? Probably, seeing as she doesn't consistently do this. Was some form of punishment deserved? Definitely.

What's so bad about afking out of a match anyway?
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:32 pm

If it was a legit ban, OK. I don't know who to trust in here, but if it was an accident because the person happenned to be busy IRL (on the phone?) then it's really not a good ending.

And since they never ban OBVIOUS botters, this makes it worst than anything.
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:37 pm

I don't care
I'm not in the position to speak
And neither are any of you
bippusuta wrote:
People are just blinded by mindless Fia fanboy-ism.
Thank you
People are blowing this out of proportion
If she wants to be unbanned all she needs is one advocate translator and submit a ticket


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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:40 pm

What the Fuck?!

They blocked Fia for that?

Fuck you CS! Let her account be "free" GOD DAMN IT

mikuri wrote:
IAnd since they never ban OBVIOUS botters, this makes it worst than anything.

Kyeon is an example which I've already reported like 4x and CS never give a fuck.
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:41 pm

xzpwnz wrote:
I don't care
I'm not in the position to speak
And neither are any of you
I hate to admit it, but xz is right.
No matter what we try, we can't bring back Fia.
I hate seeing Fia been banned for botting but no proof of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:44 pm

I want to find that guy who reported her right now...
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:46 pm

That means they have evidence and did their job. Otherwise that person can appeal the ban
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PostSubject: Re: Outrage as Fia gets banned.   Outrage as Fia gets banned. EmptyMon Oct 24, 2011 11:53 pm

I'd rather have 5 botters on my team, than 5 laggers on the enemy's team.

Did any lagger ever got banned for dishonest play?
Did anyone ever got banned for abusing bugs on certain maps? (fooling around on epoch before the match starts is okay [as long as they get out when it starts], but when people go underground with lnds to have the upper hand... And yes, I've seen people doing that, and their rank wasn't that low either.)

I still see people botting day and night, but nothing is done anyway.
Banning someone who probably didn't even did as much as well known botters did, doesn't even make an example. Well, it does make an example, of how badly they run the game.



Edit: I guess that CS is at the same tier as Gaia Online. They ban you for botting when you use 2 tabs. 1 to keep update with one thread, and another to go somewhere else. Since you are refreshing the first page once in a while, they ban you for botting. Permaban.
Some years ago I somehow ended up there, and that's how I got banned. But after I emailed them they let me in again, though I never really went back again (and even had a second account XD). Shit sucked anyway.


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