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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:06 pm | |
| If you can't win with just pure melee, I suggest hanging out with "THE SUGURI"- Spoiler:
PS - Ouka is his waifu |
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CapeMike Master Poster
Posts : 2079 Join date : 2010-09-29 Age : 51 Location : Chattanooga, TN, USA
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:26 pm | |
| -That's- a scary pair of bots there, LXE.... ...I won't even field a bot unless it's got at least one ranged option(not counting wonderbits, and with the one exception of my alt account Mighty Byne with Kamui staff))...mostly because my utter lack of melee skill has gotten to the point to where I've become 'melee shy'(like being gun shy)...I'm actually -scared- to get into melee range of an opponent, which explains why you see me freak and run when anything gets close to me.... | |
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rei_hunter Surprised Shiromo
Posts : 4660 Join date : 2010-09-22 Location : Amatsu (Philippines)
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:12 pm | |
| What about Feirts' Connie Sheriff? :O? or Project X? :O? dont those two deserve some uplift? ? | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:19 pm | |
| hmm, give Connie big body LGJ, MASSIVE GBA hit radius? | |
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rei_hunter Surprised Shiromo
Posts : 4660 Join date : 2010-09-22 Location : Amatsu (Philippines)
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:24 pm | |
| Its BD Melee. So yes.
I love the way you think XD | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:33 pm | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:39 pm | |
| I should make a macro to endlessly spam #em3
When or if I get my Ouka, I'm going for purple teir boost run <3
EDIT: Was reading a few pages back without realizing.
Oh well :v Either way, I feel like melee is 70% build based, 20% skill based, and 10% luck based.
Luck as in you get lucky enough to stumble apon a few fat arts to net you in the top 10 guarenteed. | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:01 pm | |
| - Quote :
- Luck as in you get lucky enough to stumble apon a few fat arts to net you in the top 10 guarenteed.
thats called broad radar or for bots without the cart aviable its called perception believe it or not, it is rather easy to plan the battles for a skilled player (well you dont even need to be skilled but with all the retards running around in circles im on the safer side calling it "skill" >.> ) | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:04 pm | |
| This thread is pointless.
Some ppl are gona say its bot based and automatically exclude all so called op melee makes thread pointless.
I say so called cause melee would be fucked if ppl played cben right =(. | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:13 pm | |
| - boytitan2 wrote:
- This thread is pointless.
Some ppl are gona say its bot based and automatically exclude all so called op melee makes thread pointless.
I say so called cause melee would be fucked if ppl played cben right =(. of course its bot based, if you have the option to do a viable hunting and ambushing build on a bot but your going to suicide instead you are plainly not good, maybe a good suicider, but that doesnt mean good player and just because you go ambushing and hunting doesnt mean you are good either, it depends on how succesful you are with what you do and which targets you choose (simply killing the repairbit with an ouka sword projectile can solve many problems without risking death, many people would just run into the pile, not seeing that winbell that pop up more often again [at least in my games ._.] and die without doing shit) and i wouldnt actually put the building of the bot into another category, since building is part of the skill, the bot must fit your own playstyle else you will suck with it | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:09 pm | |
| Being a good player is reflected in your 1v1 performance, how you do when you're against a horde of circles under a PS doesn't represent how good of a player you are at all. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:21 pm | |
| - knyx wrote:
- Being a good player is reflected in your 1v1 performance, how you do when you're against a horde of circles under a PS doesn't represent how good of a player you are at all.
With melee though, there's a lot of imbalance in 1v1 matchups though. The stunlock potential, range, speed, and other gimmicks (whether or not the bot can use shields, among other things) means a lot of melee matches are pretty one-sided. | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:31 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- knyx wrote:
- Being a good player is reflected in your 1v1 performance, how you do when you're against a horde of circles under a PS doesn't represent how good of a player you are at all.
With melee though, there's a lot of imbalance in 1v1 matchups though. The stunlock potential, range, speed, and other gimmicks (whether or not the bot can use shields, among other things) means a lot of melee matches are pretty one-sided. Of course, you have to take bot tiers into account, you're not going Katana Max against a VF here. Obv Max wins. | |
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Kecepirit Regular Poster
Posts : 223 Join date : 2010-12-07
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:19 pm | |
| latency plays a big part.
reason why ether would never be a top-tier melee. just sayin. | |
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Senhime Adept Poster
Posts : 563 Join date : 2011-03-11 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:42 pm | |
| Use shop Pawnger with Short Sword to decide who is better | |
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Turkeysaur Adept Poster
Posts : 782 Join date : 2011-03-11 Location : BF30
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:56 am | |
| Bippu is the only melee who I'm frantically afraid of because I can't tell the way that Dae AM works around. Other than that, I don't have anyone else in mind because 95% of CBen melee users are generic vanguard spammers and teleporters who somehow catches up with high mobility bots in their <32 WLK LNDs. | |
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Adius Regular Poster
Posts : 318 Join date : 2011-02-17 Age : 35 Location : deep inside cbff
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:42 am | |
| successful melee user = high spender (not only does it requires a lot of rt to spin for bots but the tuning requires slot protectors) melee without tunes = a dead melee ... one of the reasons why ppl like vanguards so much is because it packs a punch right off the bat without requiring a lot of tuning... i guess you can get lucky and get a daeAM2 from a ro cube and keep trying to cv tune a red squealer leg using uc harmonics only... maybe that might work... or of course u can just be super lucky and get a kuten jikun with a 1x spin and some how manage to do all the tunes without slot protectors but we all know cb isnt that generous ... right guys | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:46 am | |
| - Turkeysaur wrote:
- Bippu is the only melee who I'm frantically afraid of because I can't tell the way that Dae AM works around. Other than that, I don't have anyone else in mind because 95% of CBen melee users are generic vanguard spammers and teleporters who somehow catches up with high mobility bots in their <32 WLK LNDs.
U get close to dae am bots no matter what melee u are. Even if u vangaurd u get close to them and melee the fu.ck outa em. And to get around k shield u. Im not telling u anymore nvm U.U | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:55 am | |
| - Adius wrote:
- successful melee user = high spender (not only does it requires a lot of rt to spin for bots but the tuning requires slot protectors)
melee without tunes = a dead melee
... one of the reasons why ppl like vanguards so much is because it packs a punch right off the bat without requiring a lot of tuning...
i guess you can get lucky and get a daeAM2 from a ro cube and keep trying to cv tune a red squealer leg using uc harmonics only... maybe that might work...
or of course u can just be super lucky and get a kuten jikun with a 1x spin and some how manage to do all the tunes without slot protectors
but we all know cb isnt that generous ... right guys Why the hell does everyone use squealer legs Baltheon is ronery :< | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:04 am | |
| - Adius wrote:
- melee without tunes = a dead melee
Not necessarily true, I've done Air melee with MJG and I could survive most of the time (until TBG came out). Plus MBG can perform without tunes. |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:52 am | |
| It's expensive to play airs and land melee | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:54 am | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- It's expensive to play airs and land melee
I thought you were rich enough to call it cheap. |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:56 am | |
| - LXE wrote:
- xzpwnz wrote:
- It's expensive to play airs and land melee
I thought you were rich enough to call it cheap. In tune mats | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:54 am | |
| Ok, it is impossible to know which player is best in PVP through 1 vs 1. It was apparent when I versed Nisa.
Nisa had a Daedalian, and a Vanguard, I had MBG and a Geograsis G-Type.
My MBG can defeat his Daedalian and the Vanguard. Nisa's Vanguard can beat my Geograsis, and potentially my MBG. Which is left with an easy to decide outcome.
Scenario 1
If I use MBG first up, and Nisa uses Daedalian, my MBG will have around 300hp by the time I finished dealing with it. Then Nisa uses the Vanguard, and MBG dies, so I use my Geograsis but it can't beat the Vanguard so I will lose in the end.
Scenario 2
If Nisa uses Vanguard first up, and I use MBG, my MBG will have a very low hp when I'm done with it, or I could even die. If I died, I'll use my Geograsis, and kill the Vanguard, reducing my hp down to 10-150, and Nisa will use Daedalian, I will have a lower chance of winning. If Nisa's Vanguard killed my Geograsis, then I would have lost the game. If I survived, I could potentially also beat up the Daedalian, if not I will die and have a greater chance of winning with my Geograsis against Nisa's Daedalian.
Scenario 3
If I use Geograsis first up and Nisa uses Daedalian, the match can go either way. If I defeat the Daedalian, then Nisa will kill my Geograsis with his vanguard, then finally I will use MBG and win the match. If Nisa defeats my Geograsis, I will use MBG, then Nisa will use Vanguard, MBG dies, and then Nisa wins.
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nzlk Regular Poster
Posts : 403 Join date : 2011-05-07
| Subject: Re: Best melee player in CBEN? Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:46 am | |
| Scenario 4 An AG flies past and kills you. | |
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