Increasing number of noobs in Haku questing..

well it just that kikohime is annoying and most of the noobs im trainning and teaching are all eager learners

well not all but most are eager learners

and i hate doing pass rooms


it kills the reason why i teach hakku runs

I hate haku in general now. Don't tell me i'm a noob for dying even though i KNOW it'd save time.

Huh, being kicked doesn't prevent you from going back in?

knyx wrote:

Huh, being kicked doesn't prevent you from going back in?

It doesn't prevent anyone from going back in.

i have to say yes to what some people said here.......my friend taught me how to fight haku when i was in my what.....second day in CB......as a result i did lots of hakus and got the kaumi staff finally lolz(i was one of the few circles that can fight haku:D)

we need haku teaching rooms for noobs

There's been a lot of these noobs that go fight haku with their beginner commando, crim/kun/lily and a destructor/mach knight/jaguar arm.

They always get minutes inside the ring, and I get a few seconds.

Solution=solo

one possible problem is that right now some people who are heading rooms, or at least are the loudest in the rooms, only have partial/wrong knowledge on how to beat haku (melee or not) and no strategy aside from rush in w/ 3-ways.

what this means is that some noobs (like me) are learning faulty information or bad tactics.

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one possible problem is that right now some people who are heading rooms, or at least are the loudest in the rooms, only have partial/wrong knowledge on how to beat haku (melee or not) and no strategy aside from rush in w/ 3-ways.

Keep in mind that typing while playing is hard. So it's possible that they know more than what they are telling you.

I've lead some newb run (they aint noob if they listen and learn), and all I could teach them are the basic/easiest stuff (gun this one, melee that other one, run and rush nuke etc)
Even then, sometime it's already too late (someone already rushed to die in nuke form or Final form nuke, feeding minutes from the time limit)

If I happen to die on nuke haku with one of you guys, it's just me having bad WB timing

All the tips that pros feed out are the basics, there's advanced tactics when you get to know your "sweet spot" that nobody else can teach you.

knyx wrote:

If I happen to die on nuke haku with one of you guys, it's just me having bad WB timing

All the tips that pros feed out are the basics, there's advanced tactics when you get to know your "sweet spot" that nobody else can teach you.

Same here lol, except that I have 50% chance of succeeding WB dodge.

knyx wrote:

If I happen to die on nuke haku with one of you guys, it's just me having bad WB timing

All the tips that pros feed out are the basics, there's advanced tactics when you get to know your "sweet spot" that nobody else can teach you.

i can rarely do a WB dodge on nuke haku if i have teammates, arena always warp me on the wrong times lol

nakee wrote:

knyx wrote:

If I happen to die on nuke haku with one of you guys, it's just me having bad WB timing

All the tips that pros feed out are the basics, there's advanced tactics when you get to know your "sweet spot" that nobody else can teach you.

i can rarely do a WB dodge on nuke haku if i have teammates, arena always warp me on the wrong times lol

if you have full wb outside the ring and you get sumoned in by the time he set his nuke you can't run away from it(when he is SE/SW/center positionated) it is possible to still wb dodge it. When you notice you get the teleport animation and nuke animation, summon and unsummon your bit and maybe you din't blew off

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Keep in mind that typing while playing is hard. So it's possible that they know more than what they are telling you.

I've lead some newb run (they aint noob if they listen and learn), and all I could teach them are the basic/easiest stuff (gun this one, melee that other one, run and rush nuke etc) Mad
Even then, sometime it's already too late (someone already rushed to die in nuke form or Final form nuke, feeding minutes from the time limit)

I can totally understand and respect this but some times it is more like someone spamming caps lock saying "dagger rush him" repeatedly when facing red haku or telling every one to "suicide rush nuke haku" in favor of saving time without using WB tricks which can result in ether a noob learning bad tactics or (more frequently) a fight as to what is the best tactic during the haku run

edit: mind you, you also have people like me who were taught and can be a bit defensive/stubborn when people pull this stuff but who don't know 100% that they are right, which just adds to the confusion.

...and my melee skills are still bad enough to where I only managed to hit ONCE with the 3-way last time I tried to use it in there....

Close range combat isn't for everyone(especially me), and I really wish they'd reduce it's need in Haku battles...take awhile to re-code it though, wouldn't it?

CapeMike wrote:

...and my melee skills are still bad enough to where I only managed to hit ONCE with the 3-way last time I tried to use it in there....

Close range combat isn't for everyone(especially me), and I really wish they'd reduce it's need in Haku battles...take awhile to re-code it though, wouldn't it?

you mean prefer fight bos with guns?
1)ber
2)frac

CapeMike wrote:

Close range combat isn't for everyone(especially me), and I really wish they'd reduce it's need in Haku battles

Next time you see GeneralBob and/or Hacienda in-game, ask them to run 3-star haku with you. :3

griffen wrote:

CapeMike wrote:

...and my melee skills are still bad enough to where I only managed to hit ONCE with the 3-way last time I tried to use it in there....

Close range combat isn't for everyone(especially me), and I really wish they'd reduce it's need in Haku battles...take awhile to re-code it though, wouldn't it?

you mean prefer fight bos with guns?
1)ber
2)frac

Oh I've done them before, and Frac's a huge pain in the skidplate....

The bizarre problem with me, possibly brought on by my general fear of close-range combat of any type, is that, the closer I get to a target(or vice versa), the -less- accurate I get...; give me something I can tag you across the map with and it'll be over before it starts(I really wanna try a Saggi/Saggi Maxis), but once someone gets close enough to me to melee, my life expectancy is usually measured in seconds as panic sets in.

This tends to severely limit my options in games like this...; I was NOT doing well here during beta until a chance garapon roll gave me a Pulsardio Gamma...cue a long string of good finishes and best support awards, and suddenly, I'd found my niche'...which seemed to be annoying the living bajeezus out of arts and rear-line healing duty.

...but I'm going off-topic...the point is, I -want- to be helpful during Haku runs...and get one of those Haku staff/sword things...but that battle is NOT in my comfort zone...well, I'll learn yet!

If you really can't handle melee that badly, ask if it's okay that you farm till the final form. You'll be able to stack up attack cards and items, plus shotguns and other guns do decent damage against the final form. other than that, just try to get used to the timing. Several of his forms like to randomly run about, so it can be a challenge to land a good hit with a 3 way. Another possible problem might be that your bot lacks the mobility to keep up or get into position, if you're having trouble hitting.

Etherlight wrote:

If you really can't handle melee that badly, ask if it's okay that you farm till the final form. You'll be able to stack up attack cards and items, plus shotguns and other guns do decent damage against the final form. other than that, just try to get used to the timing. Several of his forms like to randomly run about, so it can be a challenge to land a good hit with a 3 way. Another possible problem might be that your bot lacks the mobility to keep up or get into position, if you're having trouble hitting.

Actually, that's not a bad idea...my current lnd-melee bot is a Shino with Red Sq. arms/legs, 2 Viper Shields, accel saber bs and boost run...it gets around quickly enough, but leaves me wide open when I miss with a punch combo...which I tend to do a lot....

I'll have to see if farming is an option....

If you can bear to level up another bot, using the build Jello posted in his video could be an option, it gives you good options to handle all forms with a purely uc build.

Accel Saber core, squealer arms, 3 way dagger, shotgun, 3 way bits. Accel has boost run, antislow/antiburn, and the daggers are better dps on most of haku's forms than just the squealer arms, including final form. Used properly, the 3 ways also leave you less wide open than squealer arms, dealing your damage in one quick burst. Shotgun gives you a better option for drain/fire forms than trying to punch/fail dagger those forms to death.

CapeMike wrote:

...and my melee skills are still bad enough to where I only managed to hit ONCE with the 3-way last time I tried to use it in there....

Close range combat isn't for everyone(especially me), and I really wish they'd reduce it's need in Haku battles...take awhile to re-code it though, wouldn't it?

If you don't melee, chances are you don't need his loot (Kamui staff), you have two other bosses to spam shotguns/blasters on, leave Haku as is

knyx wrote:

CapeMike wrote:

...and my melee skills are still bad enough to where I only managed to hit ONCE with the 3-way last time I tried to use it in there....

Close range combat isn't for everyone(especially me), and I really wish they'd reduce it's need in Haku battles...take awhile to re-code it though, wouldn't it?

If you don't melee, chances are you don't need his loot (Kamui staff), you have two other bosses to spam shotguns/blasters on, leave Haku as is

but haku is the only boss that drops homura staffs. That is enough reason for me to do haku even though I can't even hit a stationary distructor with a kamui staff.

Jello's guide worked like a charm. *Waits for a guide on soloing Frac and Berz without RT stuff."

berze.. jus bring shotguns and a burst bit... lol.