Increasing number of noobs in Haku questing..

The Noobs need to be polite and ask what to do if they don't know what happened. As for me, I immediately knew that I needed three way daggers and a shotgun for my Jikuns.

When I got hit with the nuke, I was surprised, but later found out that it was how the attacks worked.

Honestly, humble yourself and ASK! I'm sure the players won't bitch at you for being too noob, and the rest comes from experience.

3 way dags are quite easy to use, using the WB trick.

Most of my WB tricks are success (except for nuke).So I can just stand in front of Haku (most of them) and spam

I like advising people to get 3 ways to start out because it's a good training tool. They can't just keep flailing away so they have more time to think about moving out of the way of things like the lancer haku charge or fire haku's blast. You'll notice a lot of the melee bots will just keep flailing away at him--then he stabs them and takes off an arm, or kills them. The type of bot really doesn't matter as long as they can move quick enough and avoid things like traps, fire, nuke, etc while still carrying the appropriate weapons.

Since you lose about 20 seconds for each death, and there usually is no way that one or two extra hits will ever make up for the time penalty, it's better to train them to get out of the way.

Teaching them to get out of the way is the most important part, I think. That, and maybe using the WB activate/cancel immunities to their advantage. The pattern is easily picked up if they're paying attention to what the experienced people are doing and saying. With most groups I'm always seeing a ton of time being lost to lancer and fire, as well as people constantly dieing to the final form's sword swipes.

i'm stop doing with random people.
friends and clan only

FreedomFighter wrote:

i'm stop doing with random people.
friends and clan only

My friend list only have 1 person,poor me XD

Guys, they just want the cool stuff, like the Kamui staff or the Stardust Cannon. They could care less about their questmates as long as they get their stuff. Once you see them, retire from the quest, and start again. That easy.

Also yes I can solo 3* haku now too. Special thanks to [Kurenai] for doing duet quests with me, I know exactly what to do, Haku forms, tactics and whatnot.

Basicly solo 3* is faster than running with 2 or more if they are noob.

I even offered some time to carry some noobs 3* haku on one condition. That they dont enter the ark til i got to final haku. Guess what happened, 3 out of the 4 noobs entered the ark.

I mean seriously, they don't want to finish haku like 2x faster than they would normally (if they could even finish 3)? So much for offering to help.

I feel for you Tae. Some people just don't know that Haku's arena can only accommodate 3 people at the maximum, and AT RANDOM. So if it happens that someone who's a noob gets randomly warped in during Haku's Trap Form, then your team's fucked, time-wise.

Some people don't listen to orders of those who know thinking they can be of any help, when they aren't of any.

Also, just to note, 3-way daggers don't work on Haku's Shield Form since they are considered projectiles and not melee attacks, so bringing Jikuns or any bot that can melee and equip 3-way daggers can help (battle pointers ftw).

Shance wrote:

I feel for you Tae. Some people just don't know that Haku's arena can only accommodate 3 people at the maximum, and AT RANDOM. So if it happens that someone who's a noob gets randomly warped in during Haku's Trap Form, then your team's fucked, time-wise.

Some people don't listen to orders of those who know thinking they can be of any help, when they aren't of any.

Also, just to note, 3-way daggers don't work on Haku's Shield Form since they are considered projectiles and not melee attacks, so bringing Jikuns or any bot that can melee and equip 3-way daggers can help (battle pointers ftw).

This or something like an arm that doubles with melee. Not the best or strongest, but when you have another option when you can't do anything while the barrier is up(like when you have a 3way dagger), every second/damage counts.

in in my clan and my buddies

what we always do is carry 2 air bots 1 with any kind of long sword aother 3 way dagger and a jikun or any fast land with 3 way dagger

once insice any of party must get 5 treasure (we do it all the time) and 2 is left on feild 12/13 to farm the heck out of it with boosters while the other 3 mob hakku

once its past the 15 min mark we all enter and with atleast 1 or 2 star boosted stats

I just did a full round chock-full of Haku runs, and guess what. Filtering people and planning beforehand actually works. Here's how you do it:

1. Make a room, let them come in.
2. Do a shoutout telling them that if they don't want to follow orders, they're free to leave. Those who are idle, obviously trolling, ignoring you, or are just hardheaded, flat-out noobs who won't goddamn listen, kick them. Don't just filter them by rank though. Some low-ranked peeps still know their Haku stuff if they're players who created another account or played at another server.
4. Those who remain are to be assumed to know what they are doing and are willing to follow orders. Ask them to fix their lineup and equipment.
5. Decide on a fight team composed of members that will enter the arena once the 5 treasures are obtained. Make sure they're the best of the best, knowledge, battle tactics and equipment-wise, numbers won't matter. Those that are not confident of their skills should wait at the outpost until all of the forms before Haku's final form are defeated.
6. Upon reaching final form, let all members in and kick fox butt.

90% of my Haku runs today were successful, and I got all the staffs I wanted, much thanks to nice, well-prepared, and skilled team members. I can't call out all of the names, but you guys know who you are. Thanks a lot.

Plasma blades do work on shield haku though i've never used the actual plasma blade itself Crimrose arm 4 is a plasma blade and i've had runs where my crim only died once because final haku did it's ninja nuke

I herd u liek necro

shinigami wrote:

Firstly they use ARTs all the time.

Second,they don use 3 ways.

Thirdly,they get killed by nukes outside barrier.

Four, they're above iron hero,and the room title says no noobs.

Damn I lost 4 hakus of 2* - 3* becuz they keep dying= =Wish they can read guides/try solo b4 doing this= =

Lulz the best way to solve this is learn to solo it. Now i only solo or play with people i know they can fight it or atleast listen and don't enter when i wanna solo it. Personnaly i find it easier to solo it then to relie on sombody else on haku.

also if you solo try use red squarel as third bot + dual 8 vulcan they help alot against green/red haku and can be used also against shadow/trap haku with his arms.

I still feel like a 3rd wheel in Haku rooms, mainly due to my previously-mentioned lack of melee skills(I personally find 3-ways useless, as I still can't hit a thing with 'em) or short-range weaponry; guess I should thank my lucky stars I haven't been kicked from one yet...still, I'd like to at least FEEL useful there!

...'course, one'a those Haku staff/sword things WOULD look nice in my inventory, so that keeps me coming back....

So what's the difference between a combi and 3-way? Is it possible to solo haku 3* with 3-ways...?

yilx wrote:

So what's the difference between a combi and 3-way? Is it possible to solo haku 3* with 3-ways...?

Haku 3* can be easily soloed with 2 of either
Combination dagger also throws 2 daggers behind

Before starting, inspect the party

NO 3WAY = KICK
NO MELEE = KICK
ARTs (2 in commando) = MUST KICK

But still there are some exceptions, I found a guy with 3 (uing Asura) Slash Blades and it works better than 3 way if u ask me.

There are some pros out there and I know some of them:

L1NK3R
KHAIRROL
Valhalla

PS. I think I got the spelling wrong but still similar
NEVAR KICK THEM!!

i can vouch for valhala.

shaden with 3 slash blades. how can it wrong.

reiya wrote:

i can vouch for valhala.

shaden with 3 slash blades. how can it wrong.

Holy crap

That's a lot of Capa.

indeed. dunno wad he added for carts. lol 3 slash blades he took down the shield haku like it was nth lol.

Oh.
Don't forgot to force people with dual combis to carry you

Protip: Read Jello's guide.

Not sure what Link uses in quests, but I find his usual commando (triple team domiclowns) is excellent for offscreen support. Those things hit so far through the barrier that if you can lure Haku close, you can rack up massive damage.

I just put domiclown AM's on other bots

Well, if you had the chance to get, 2 oukas is all you need to rip apart Haku in its every single form...
Works like a charm...