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Sakage-04ext Newbie
Posts : 83 Join date : 2010-08-30 Location : Japan 舞鶴鎮守府
| Subject: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:21 am | |
| Was published from official CBEN http://www.cosmicbreak.com/info/topic/news/11318 Hello from the CosmicBreak Service Team. Over the past months, we have received a very large volume of feedback requesting that balance adjustments be made to the Zero type characters who were released in February 2012, as well as to several other new characters who were released after February 2012. When developing new characters for CosmicBreak, we attempt to give them as many new features and abilities as possible in order to ensure that our new content is fresh and exciting. Our developers created the powerful abilities of the Zero types with that goal in mind; it was never our intention to create balance breakers. However, there is a limit to the level of game balance that can be achieved through the test playing carried out by our small team, and due to the huge number of different characters and builds available in CosmicBreak, we are oftentimes unable to foresee the exact way in which a certain ability may affect the metagame until after its release. For this we are very sorry. It usually goes against our policy to "nerf" content for which our loyal players may have paid real money to acquire. However, in this case, we have come to feel that the massive demand for balance adjustments coming from the vast majority of the playerbase (including many players who have themselves obtained the very content in question) should be allowed to trump that policy. Therefore, we will soon be making balance adjustments to certain characters and parts designed to reduce their combat effectiveness. It is our intention that by doing so, CosmicBreak's PvP will become more enjoyable for everyone. We humbly ask all of you for your understanding and cooperation regarding this matter. The following is a list of the characters that we plan to adjust: - Eris - Resha - Haruka Langit - Monica Gold - Rone Amabile - Ivis (HD Version) - Seraph Crimrose (HD Version) Planned adjustments include: - Changes to reduce the effectiveness of parts which seem to be the most overpowered. - Changes to increase the effectiveness of some other parts. - Equal increases of both Cost and Capacity, in order to increase unit Cost without effecting what Tunes Ups and/or parts may be used. We plan to carry out these changes during 7/19 weekly maintenance.Additionally, for a limited period of time, we will be allowing all Tune Ups made to any parts (except for HD Accessories) of the characters listed above to be freely revoked, with used Tune Up materials being recovered without the use of a Cosmos Regret OMEGA. Even Ex Tune Up materials and campaign prize materials that cannot usually be recovered via a Cosmos Regret OMEGA will be recoverable during this time period. The time period for freely revoking Tune Ups to the above characters will be from 7/19 weekly maintenance until 8/30 weekly maintenance.
As always, we thank all of you for your support, and hope that you will continue to enjoy CosmicBreak. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Google translation of the notice and the URL of CBJP was announced earlier than CBEN is here - CBJP Official & Google Translation:
http://www.cosmicbreak.jp/info/topic/17148
= Google Translate =
Notice of adjustment of the balance games, July 19
Hello everyone. Cosmic Break service team is.
Everyone has received a request to the user's opinions range from daily, Thank you very much. Feedback from everyone is, as the voice of the valuable raw We have been in reference to perform the update in the future.
Among them, "type zero" a new type we released in February, Characters and parts of February and later releases, That is causing the problem with the game balance in the arena, Has received a number of opinions that.
As development and service team, a wider range of play in arena, The purpose of that enjoyment by everyone of the user, Has introduced a new character with elements of as much as possible. We developed based on the assumption about the character of the release also like this since February and "type zero", Repeat the test house has been about the game balance of the match. However, the emphasis would be biased as a vector called the development "born by the fun new element", In terms of, or is not under-estimate it had the impact on the existing balance game There is a large reflection.
Since everyone received a lot of opinions, Is recognized as a serious problem about this game balance, Has been under consideration for character parts that become a problem in both service development team.
As a result, has decided to conduct performance tuning of the character of these parts.
Implementation date is scheduled for Thursday, July 19, 2012.
The following will be the main character will be reconciled at this time.
-Eris -Resha -Haruka Langit -Monica Gold -Rone Amabile -Ivis (Limited Edition) -Seraph Crimrose (Limited Edition)
The main contents of the adjustment, -Downward revision for parts that is causing the problem to the game balance -Against upward revision of some parts -Balance adjustment, raise the same amount by both the cost and capacity
We are planning 3 points.
This time, everyone parts about the character of the user is in possession And it turns out that the adjustment is performed with a downward revision, I am sorry indeed. Order to achieve a balance game play close properly, enjoy everybody, Thank you for your understanding by any means the.
For component parts of the above character (except the HD accessories), and July 19, 2012 from the end of regular maintenance (Thurs) Start until the scheduled maintenance on Thursday 30 August 2012, Use the "Cosmo spot reset" without consuming "Cosmo regret OMEGA" You can do a tune-up release.
Ex Tune Up also do not usually return the item material, Only during the above period, we will return.
Cosmic Break in company service development team, Since we are committed to providing a fun game by everyone, Thank you the Cosmic Break in the future.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Whether that also applies to CBEN These updates do not know yet, because there is no Cyber Step adjustment of the parameters that were fine in each region, to some extent might be expected. I think it was decided to balance this time is that the impact of Phantasy Star Online 2 (PSO2) service officially started in Japan. Cyber Step would have continued to update until now as If it were not for this. Many users have increased playing time in the Phantasy Star Online 2 (PSO2) Cosmic Break than in CBJP. I thought you would understand that if people are looking at the SNS official, then occupied by the topic of PSO2 40% of the diary SNS, even if you do have to play in the arena during the early morning from midnight considerably reduced the number of online players actually more than anything else is insufficient because there is no time should the room. CS think it will break the status quo and want to enter the Japanese school before summer vacation. Reaction of CBJP community http://www.cosmicbreak.jp/openpne/?m=pc&a=page_c_topic_detail&target_c_commu_topic_id=186740&comment_count=0
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:26 am | |
| I want to get excited about this, but I need to see what exactly gets tweaked. About time they took this step. - Quote :
- [04:28] <Suguri> I bet it'll just be a really tiny performance hit
[04:28] <Suguri> and then like [04:29] <Suguri> +200~300 cost [04:29] <Suguri> or something
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Tuskin Do not charge RT
Posts : 2811 Join date : 2011-01-25
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:27 am | |
| - Spoiler:
PS1: They didn't say shit about returning harmos or prots PS2: I want to see the face of the jap who posted that diary about him being "the best in japan"
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:37 am | |
| Flapjack is now one of the most broken bots in CB.
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:01 am | |
| this is a major step into a better direction even if the changes are not what most people might expect (me included) simply because they actually NERF the stuff which they didnt do in a long time once they did this, its safe to assume that they will do it again if the impact on the crybabies community isnt to heavy on a side note: it actually sounds like i might start playing eris/resha in arena after that update | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:04 am | |
| >Addressing only newest moebots
Lol, inb4 older moebot spam taking over again :C | |
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fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 32 Location : A certain boss's room
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:07 am | |
| Remember last week when JP buffed some wps but EN ignored it?
ww
Also Akane where? | |
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RedIridesence Newcomer
Posts : 18 Join date : 2012-07-11
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:09 am | |
| well at least this means if the nerfs those bots receive are decent enough(i stress "if" btw). people cant complain at others for using them then. but yes as stated above, flapjack will now be the dominant machine in this game. ...buuuuuuuuuuuttttt fapjack can still be easily taken down by AA builds since its weapons dont have insane ranges. | |
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EvannGeo Regular Poster
Posts : 222 Join date : 2011-04-11 Age : 40 Location : the not so distant future
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:26 am | |
| lol.... CS sure is desperate and it's too late change now.. reason is that PSO2 is getting more players | |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:56 am | |
| - tggt wrote:
Also Akane where? first, bring haruka down to akanes level, after that you can nerf them both if needed | |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:06 am | |
| - tggt wrote:
- Remember last week when JP buffed some wps but EN ignored it?
ww
Also Akane where? Was thinking about that but couldn't go read it again. Her main weapon not having as much range cripples her from using it as a solo weapon, but you always have a 280 range weapon to guide all the other bullets anyway. I always found the 280 range kinda retarded, not that the weapon is strong, but it ends up guiding all the other weapons. - RedIridesence wrote:
- well at least this means if the nerfs those bots receive are decent enough(i stress "if" btw). people cant complain at others for using them then.
but yes as stated above, flapjack will now be the dominant machine in this game.
...buuuuuuuuuuuttttt fapjack can still be easily taken down by AA builds since its weapons dont have insane ranges. Yet 270 range and 29 force cannons, small size and 10 boost charges, makes him really annoying. Add air loop (doesn't he accelerate when using the boost charge?) and you only get hit if you are that unlucky or stupid. Also, you can get Broad radar on flapjack to make it even better. | |
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Stickboy Master Poster
Posts : 2971 Join date : 2011-05-23 Age : 30 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:26 am | |
| >nerf
Who are you and what have you done to CS. ._.
Seriously, I lol'd. ._. | |
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fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 32 Location : A certain boss's room
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:26 am | |
| http://www.onlinegamer.jp/news/201207110049/
>Gara SP with updated ver of fangirls
asdasdqwdasdsa
S> virginity for RT;w; | |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:47 am | |
| If they followed the art, you would get heatgun DG, as she never got those weapons in the game (thankfully). Pretty much like MJG with a gatling, that MJ had, when there was no gatlings for him? | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:07 am | |
| - God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- If they followed the art, you would get heatgun DG, as she never got those weapons in the game (thankfully). Pretty much like MJG with a gatling, that MJ had, when there was no gatlings for him?
And Dual Divine Blade ZSG. Which would probably have her own combo. Although you should think more in line with Zero Saber NEXT and that kind of stuff. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:07 am | |
| Did I end up on some bizzaro version of Earth? |
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:22 am | |
| updated fangirls? propably just 2 pairs of HD boobs and a pair of HD rocketlaunchers | |
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Prior Regular Poster
Posts : 327 Join date : 2012-05-30
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:22 am | |
| - tggt wrote:
- http://www.onlinegamer.jp/news/201207110049/
>Gara SP with updated ver of fangirls
asdasdqwdasdsa
S> virginity for RT;w; Looks like im going to be charging a shitton | |
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Akhenderson Adept Poster
Posts : 864 Join date : 2011-12-12 Age : 29 Location : Somewhere In Illinois
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:32 am | |
| - Prior wrote:
- tggt wrote:
- http://www.onlinegamer.jp/news/201207110049/
>Gara SP with updated ver of fangirls
asdasdqwdasdsa
S> virginity for RT;w; Looks like im going to be charging a shitton they'll have my money once i see the weapons and blue balls. I like having slot protectors, not handas. I also like getting useful weapons rather than a terrible awesome but impractical weapon. | |
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Aethereal Regular Poster
Posts : 296 Join date : 2011-03-11
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:34 am | |
| i think i'll hold off on optimism on this one.
allowing people to refund 100% of their mats/ex tune materials means they're basically ready to dump it all on the next standard of OP.
KEEP IN MIND that they have made no agreement nor stipulation as regards to future moebots not being absurdly OP. They can still make the next set of moebots just as powerful as pre-nerf Zero/Wing/FC (regardless of what the nerf might entail)
Also, however Rone may devastate hopper meta in CBJP, her presence is virtually invisible in EN. She doesn't deserve a further nerf on top of that.
As many people pointed out, the other wing moe is conspicuously missing from that list.
Newvis needs a slight nerf, I guess. She's basically the god of 1v1 land-based combat at the moment.
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Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:55 am | |
| - Aethereal wrote:
As many people pointed out, the other wing moe is conspicuously missing from that list.
like i wrote ealier, thats most likely because haruka is MUCH more powerful than all those alphastrike akanes and flapjack is propably better at what akane does anyways | |
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Kuzuha What Abbey Get
Posts : 2441 Join date : 2011-10-03 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:00 am | |
| - Aethereal wrote:
Also, however Rone may devastate hopper meta in CBJP, her presence is virtually invisible in EN. She doesn't deserve a further nerf on top of that. Yeah, not much complained about her. Who said she was OP anyway? Then again, if she's OP in JP, then that makes sense. - Aethereal wrote:
As many people pointed out, the other wing moe is conspicuously missing from that list. This one was too obvious. Maybe it's because many got Haruka compared to Akane? Unless CS wanted to see the difference what would happen if one wingslut was nerfed. Dunno. - Aethereal wrote:
Newvis needs a slight nerf, I guess. She's basically the god of 1v1 land-based combat at the moment. Taruka says hi.
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ironpen27 Regular Poster
Posts : 291 Join date : 2010-09-26 Age : 34 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:09 am | |
| why Monica? i dun see her being used too much O_O | |
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Kuzuha What Abbey Get
Posts : 2441 Join date : 2011-10-03 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: CBJP/CBEN balance adjustment notice Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:14 am | |
| - ironpen27 wrote:
- why Monica? i dun see her being used too much O_O
Very fast zook that's like almost homing which does waste booster. Seriously, she's OP. | |
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wonjoon Adept Poster
Posts : 782 Join date : 2011-09-27
| Subject: Oh Yes!! Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:22 am | |
| - Sakage-04ext wrote:
- -Eris
-Resha -Haruka Langit -Monica Gold -Rone Amabile -Ivis (Limited Edition) -Seraph Crimrose (Limited Edition) YES!! *thumbs up* | |
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