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Strykerr Regular Poster
Posts : 331 Join date : 2011-12-13
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 5:34 pm | |
| I originally had Chuky on my ignore list, but his posts are just too funny to read >high score >epoch >thinks its good >doesn't realize you have to be brain dead to not do good with ivis >thinks he's pro | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 5:56 pm | |
| If you're going to rambo, I'd just have to say I think getting her 2nd EIW would be very useful. Her first EIW restores 30 HP per usage (not sure on it's ammo, but with 9 ammo you should be out of ammo when you die in order to maximize your survivability (30 x 9 = 270 HP healable). Her second EIW gives her All Guard. This makes up for her lack of guard carts (it even gives Beam Guard!) and highly increases her survivability aswell as lowering the need for tunes such as Clearance to be able to get it to stack with C.Veil. 2nd EIW decreases damage taken enough to make up for the lower capacity to tune other stats IMO. I know you've already built her, but this is what I'd do. I dropped slow in favor of a build that relies on her huge reach (her slashes have insane range) combined with the almost-instantaneous lunge with Assault Step to keep enemies adequately stunlocked. Slow tunes would feel like overkill. The Capacity tune is alright in my opinion due to the fact that she's pretty low cost anyways. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Ivis
【Parts】 BD: Ivis BD5 : Auto Gun Bit(default) : Ivis LG3 [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [Capacity] : Ivis HD5 [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Power Alpha] : Black Layer Ribbon [High Power Beta] : Berry Earrings [High Power Beta] : Ivis BS [Great Power Alpha] [High Run Beta] [Run] : Ivis AM3 [Great Power Alpha] [High Tough Alpha] [High Tough Alpha] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Tough Alpha] [High Tough Alpha] [Tough] : Ivis AM4 [Grappler] [Grappler] [Grappler] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1110 CAPA: 1110 HP: 415 STR: 35 TEC: -4 WLK: 36 FLY: 2 TGH: 16
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×5 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Stun Regain Broad Radar Assault Step
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×15 Midoro Cosmos×5 Ones Cosmos×3 Blue Chip×115 Green Chip×75 Rainbow Chip×10 Power Amp×280 Engine Shaft×30 Brake Damper×41 Physical Stone×150 Strike Metal×34 Shock Graphite×56 Snail Liquid×15 Hard Plate×28 Screw Bolts×200 Miracle Ammonite×20 Shining Feather×20
I know this isnt the right place to probably post this, but it's fairly relevant due to the fact it's nearly become a bot discussion. | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 6:10 pm | |
| OMG! then I has been playing without all guard????
I will remove the slow and will lvl up 10 then EIW!!! yeah.. thank Trill... looks like I must update the Guid of the EIW that info must be posted!!!
And yes, I'm ramboing whit the new Ivis (like I used to do with the old one) that must work!!!
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 6:18 pm | |
| Chucky, nobody really wants to know. |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 6:41 pm | |
| You probably could get the second EIW without taking out the slow. :/
-WB -1 str -1WLK
That's 15 cost at least. Plus those 5, it's 20 free capa. Now it depends on which tunes you used that led you to have 3 fly when you only need 1. -2 fly + 20 capa = 30 free capa.
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 6:49 pm | |
| - God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- You probably could get the second EIW without taking out the slow. :/
-WB -1 str -1WLK
That's 15 cost at least. Plus those 5, it's 20 free capa. Now it depends on which tunes you used that led you to have 3 fly when you only need 1. -2 fly + 20 capa = 30 free capa.
o.O you are right! the tunes in the ACC are 15 cost!!! and I still have some spare fly!!!! mmm.. may be we must start a post in the Guide section....
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 6:51 pm | |
| Chucky, if we ever wanted to ask questions about a specific bot, we'd use the Guide Section. |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 7:05 pm | |
| - LXE wrote:
- Chucky, if we ever wanted to ask questions about a specific bot, we'd use the Guide Section.
What I want to do is to move all about my build and recomendatios!! | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 7:51 pm | |
| - DarkChuky wrote:
- LXE wrote:
- Chucky, if we ever wanted to ask questions about a specific bot, we'd use the Guide Section.
What I want to do is to move all about my build and recomendatios!! Basically all you've been doing is flaunting your Ivis around, and annoying the crap outta people. |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 8:37 pm | |
| - LXE wrote:
- DarkChuky wrote:
- LXE wrote:
- Chucky, if we ever wanted to ask questions about a specific bot, we'd use the Guide Section.
What I want to do is to move all about my build and recomendatios!! Basically all you've been doing is flaunting your Ivis around, and annoying the crap outta people. wait until the build is done... Im in haku at this moment to get the 2nd EIW.. and I will be spaming Ivis in Arena!! that will be better hahahaha | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 8:46 pm | |
| Nobody is making a 40 TGH tank ivis? | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 8:48 pm | |
| - knyx wrote:
- Nobody is making a 40 TGH tank ivis?
Why don't you make one? |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 8:51 pm | |
| IMORTAL IVIS WITH 40 TGH.. people just hate me too much to just try that!!! | |
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blead [Administrator]
Posts : 2370 Join date : 2011-03-25 Age : 811 Location : ( ・_・)
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 9:09 pm | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 9:27 pm | |
| Thanks Blead. ... Probably final build (Remember that I can play with the ACC and Pompom to make small changes when required) - Spoiler:
- Wasn´t able to get the extra +1 TGH... would like but this looks good... - 2 EIW... that All guard really works... 30% less damage on all attacks!!! - Lost 1 STR to get that EIW - Got back the +1 TEC - Would like more STR but will sacrifice it for the TGH. - The C veil last for 50 seconds.. and for some reason can be canceled by attacks (bug or lag issue) - The Shield, still doesn´t understan how it works, no idea if is just 1 hit break.. or if it has some duration. Now she is kind of OP, the new Range of the rapier is just awesome.... | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 9:46 pm | |
| 1. If you could drop that 1WLK, you might 2. Crimson Veil + All Guard + Heal. Damn that's OP. 3. Having 2 EIW is kinda stupid, but it's your preference. 4. Don't need that wonderbit really. 5. 16 is a magical number 6. You probably don't know that there are other factors that cancel out your CV 7. Probably multi-hit. I don't know.
Your build is badd. |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 9:52 pm | |
| LXE, this is from TRILL: - Spoiler:
"Her first EIW restores 30 HP per usage (not sure on it's ammo, but with 9 ammo you should be out of ammo when you die in order to maximize your survivability (30 x 9 = 270 HP healable). Her second EIW gives her All Guard."
then the All Guard is good... also I just lost 1 STR!!! then its a win... unless it afects the Stun Ragain. But would like to change that extra 1 wlk for 1 tgh and reach the table that Cat Girl posted!!! that reduction works! | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 9:54 pm | |
| Damn that's OP.
But how does the healing work? |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 10:18 pm | |
| Only thing I'd have to agree on is the fact she doesn't need her Wonderbit. I'd suggesting playing around on blead's new calc to try and see different build-routes you could go. The only way he could convert any 1-stat to another is to change accesories, assuming that all his tunes are above basic stat tunes. Try getting a slotted Crown Hat (1 str, 1 tgh) to drop that extra 1 walk for 1 tgh, or a slotted Parade Roll ( does this even exist? ). - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Ivis
【Parts】 BD: Ivis BD5 : Auto Gun Bit(default) : Ivis LG3 [Clearance] [Clearance] [High Power Beta] : Ivis HD5 [High Power Beta] [High Power Beta] [High Power Beta] : Black Layer Ribbon [Run] : Berry Earrings [Great Power Alpha] : Ivis BS [High Power Beta] [High Tough Alpha] [Tough] : Ivis AM3 [High Tough Alpha] [High Tough] [High Tough] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Tough] : Ivis AM4 [Slow] [Slow] [Power] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Run Beta] [High Tough] [High Tough]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1130 CAPA: 1130 HP: 450 STR: 31 TEC: 1 WLK: 32 FLY: 3 TGH: 22
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Stun Regain Short Boost
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×53 Fudara Cosmos×35 Midoro Cosmos×11 Yoguru Cosmos×5 Fourda Cosmos×2 Blue Chip×80 Green Chip×80 Rainbow Chip×58 Power Amp×47 Engine Shaft×20 Brake Damper×88 Strike Metal×11 Rapid Crystal×154 Shock Graphite×26 Snail Liquid×75 Hard Plate×69 Hulk Meteorite×100 Miracle Ammonite×20 Shining Feather×20 Handa Cosmos×1
Clearance isnt AS attractive as it was previously on Ivis, but it still will let her stay free of debuffs such as slow/ammo drain/burn , which for 20 cost (with 10 HP) I think is definately worth the str loss. Also I was figuring, if all you're going to do is jump into a group and hack away, why hit the highest walk breakpoint? 32 would be enough to get from point A to B in a relatively decent time. In the miniscule chance I get Ivis (no chance of charging any time soon, so it's up to surveys), I'd personally take Assault Step over shortboost due to it's instantaneous movement, making her able to dash around quickly in a group instead of having to take long awkward hops through the group. Plus combined with her rapier's new range, she can easily land hits on a target by dashing forward before swinging. EDIT: Just noticed I (accidentally) saved 1 tec, meaning you'll be free to use any 0-cost bit (sorry, IMO it's not worth trying to shove a 5-10 cost bit on her). I'd just use Dual 3-way though, due to it's high damage, it'll be able to thwack opponents being stunlocked during your combo. | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 10:32 pm | |
| yeah, Im using 0 cost bit.. that saved of 1 tec was by accident.. I changed 1 20 cost +3 STR (Great Alpha) for a High Alpha.. plus changed 2 High TGH to High Alpha (that is the reason Fly went to 1)
Asault step is good, but I use the Short bost to catch Airs (I love to kill airs with LNDs!) Asult step looks good for catch Land units or for dogging...
Your point about the WLK and jump into a group.. sound interesting!!! I believe I can play with the Pompom and lost some wlk and add more STR!!!
The Crown Hat (1 str, 1 tgh) it´s someting I´m missing... and I missed one last week from a lotto cube!
I remember some ppls uses Float Dash in Ivis, hasn´t seen them for a while!!!
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 10:36 pm | |
| - LXE wrote:
- Damn that's OP.
But how does the healing work? Using CV = +30 HP | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 10:38 pm | |
| - God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- LXE wrote:
- Damn that's OP.
But how does the healing work? Using CV = +30 HP It's not working... |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 10:41 pm | |
| - LXE wrote:
- God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- LXE wrote:
- Damn that's OP.
But how does the healing work? Using CV = +30 HP It's not working... You probably don't have EIW. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 10:46 pm | |
| - God is a Cat Girl wrote:
- LXE wrote:
- God is a Cat Girl wrote:
Using CV = +30 HP It's not working... You probably don't have EIW. Oh, so that's why... ._. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New Ivis Fri May 04, 2012 11:08 pm | |
| What I've done so far, I still got those 3 EX Great tune elements. Dat 510hp. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Ivis
【Parts】 BD: Ivis BD5 : Auto Gun Bit(default) : Ivis LG3 [Clearance] [Clearance] [High Run Beta] : Ivis HD5 [Run] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] : Black Layer Ribbon : Berry Earrings : Ivis BS [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Power Beta] : Ivis AM3 [Tough] [High Power Beta] [High Power Beta] : Cheer Pom-pon [High Tough Alpha] [High Tough Alpha] [High Tough Alpha] : Ivis AM4 [Slow] [Slow] [High Tough Alpha] : Cheer Pom-pon [EX Great Power Alpha] [EX Great Power Alpha] [EX Great Power Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1095 CAPA: 1130 HP: 510 STR: 32 TEC: -3 WLK: 36 FLY: 1 TGH: 16
LEVEL: 9
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Assault Step
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×12 Midoro Cosmos×3 Fourda Cosmos×2 Blue Chip×120 Green Chip×100 Rainbow Chip×58 Power Amp×66 Engine Shaft×30 Brake Damper×41 Strike Metal×33 Rapid Crystal×154 Shock Graphite×42 Snail Liquid×81 Hard Plate×28 Hulk Meteorite×100 Handa Cosmos×2 Generic Element×51 Superior Element×15 Power Element×45
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