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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 5:34 pm

I originally had Chuky on my ignore list, but his posts are just too funny to read
>high score
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>doesn't realize you have to be brain dead to not do good with ivis
>thinks he's pro
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 5:56 pm

If you're going to rambo, I'd just have to say I think getting her 2nd EIW would be very useful. Her first EIW restores 30 HP per usage (not sure on it's ammo, but with 9 ammo you should be out of ammo when you die in order to maximize your survivability (30 x 9 = 270 HP healable). Her second EIW gives her All Guard. This makes up for her lack of guard carts (it even gives Beam Guard!) and highly increases her survivability aswell as lowering the need for tunes such as Clearance to be able to get it to stack with C.Veil.

2nd EIW decreases damage taken enough to make up for the lower capacity to tune other stats IMO.

I know you've already built her, but this is what I'd do. I dropped slow in favor of a build that relies on her huge reach (her slashes have insane range) combined with the almost-instantaneous lunge with Assault Step to keep enemies adequately stunlocked. Slow tunes would feel like overkill. The Capacity tune is alright in my opinion due to the fact that she's pretty low cost anyways.

Spoiler:

I know this isnt the right place to probably post this, but it's fairly relevant due to the fact it's nearly become a bot discussion.

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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 6:10 pm

OMG! then I has been playing without all guard????

I will remove the slow and will lvl up 10 then EIW!!! yeah.. thank Trill... looks like I must update the Guid of the EIW that info must be posted!!!

And yes, I'm ramboing whit the new Ivis (like I used to do with the old one) that must work!!!

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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 6:18 pm

Chucky, nobody really wants to know.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 6:41 pm

You probably could get the second EIW without taking out the slow. :/

-WB
-1 str
-1WLK

That's 15 cost at least. Plus those 5, it's 20 free capa. Now it depends on which tunes you used that led you to have 3 fly when you only need 1.
-2 fly + 20 capa = 30 free capa.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 6:49 pm

God is a Cat Girl wrote:
You probably could get the second EIW without taking out the slow. :/

-WB
-1 str
-1WLK

That's 15 cost at least. Plus those 5, it's 20 free capa. Now it depends on which tunes you used that led you to have 3 fly when you only need 1.
-2 fly + 20 capa = 30 free capa.

o.O you are right! the tunes in the ACC are 15 cost!!! and I still have some spare fly!!!!

mmm.. may be we must start a post in the Guide section....


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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 6:51 pm

Chucky, if we ever wanted to ask questions about a specific bot, we'd use the Guide Section.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 7:05 pm

LXE wrote:
Chucky, if we ever wanted to ask questions about a specific bot, we'd use the Guide Section.

What I want to do is to move all about my build and recomendatios!!
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 7:51 pm

DarkChuky wrote:
LXE wrote:
Chucky, if we ever wanted to ask questions about a specific bot, we'd use the Guide Section.

What I want to do is to move all about my build and recomendatios!!
Basically all you've been doing is flaunting your Ivis around, and annoying the crap outta people.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 8:37 pm

LXE wrote:
DarkChuky wrote:
LXE wrote:
Chucky, if we ever wanted to ask questions about a specific bot, we'd use the Guide Section.

What I want to do is to move all about my build and recomendatios!!
Basically all you've been doing is flaunting your Ivis around, and annoying the crap outta people.

wait until the build is done... Im in haku at this moment to get the 2nd EIW.. and I will be spaming Ivis in Arena!! that will be better hahahaha
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 8:46 pm

Nobody is making a 40 TGH tank ivis?
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 8:48 pm

knyx wrote:
Nobody is making a 40 TGH tank ivis?
Why don't you make one?
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 8:51 pm

IMORTAL IVIS WITH 40 TGH.. people just hate me too much to just try that!!!
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 9:09 pm

Thread splitted.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 9:27 pm

Thanks Blead.
...

Probably final build (Remember that I can play with the ACC and Pompom to make small changes when required)

Spoiler:

- Wasn´t able to get the extra +1 TGH... would like but this looks good...
- 2 EIW... that All guard really works... 30% less damage on all attacks!!!
- Lost 1 STR to get that EIW
- Got back the +1 TEC
- Would like more STR but will sacrifice it for the TGH.
- The C veil last for 50 seconds.. and for some reason can be canceled by attacks (bug or lag issue)
- The Shield, still doesn´t understan how it works, no idea if is just 1 hit break.. or if it has some duration.


Now she is kind of OP, the new Range of the rapier is just awesome....

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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 9:46 pm

1. If you could drop that 1WLK, you might
2. Crimson Veil + All Guard + Heal. Damn that's OP.
3. Having 2 EIW is kinda stupid, but it's your preference.
4. Don't need that wonderbit really.
5. 16 is a magical number
6. You probably don't know that there are other factors that cancel out your CV
7. Probably multi-hit. I don't know.

Your build is badd.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 9:52 pm

LXE, this is from TRILL:

Spoiler:

then the All Guard is good... also I just lost 1 STR!!! then its a win... unless it afects the Stun Ragain.

But would like to change that extra 1 wlk for 1 tgh and reach the table that Cat Girl posted!!! that reduction works!
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 9:54 pm

Damn that's OP.

But how does the healing work?
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 10:18 pm

Only thing I'd have to agree on is the fact she doesn't need her Wonderbit.

I'd suggesting playing around on blead's new calc to try and see different build-routes you could go.

The only way he could convert any 1-stat to another is to change accesories, assuming that all his tunes are above basic stat tunes. Try getting a slotted Crown Hat (1 str, 1 tgh) to drop that extra 1 walk for 1 tgh, or a slotted Parade Roll ( does this even exist? ).

Spoiler:


Clearance isnt AS attractive as it was previously on Ivis, but it still will let her stay free of debuffs such as slow/ammo drain/burn , which for 20 cost (with 10 HP) I think is definately worth the str loss. Also I was figuring, if all you're going to do is jump into a group and hack away, why hit the highest walk breakpoint? 32 would be enough to get from point A to B in a relatively decent time.

In the miniscule chance I get Ivis (no chance of charging any time soon, so it's up to surveys), I'd personally take Assault Step over shortboost due to it's instantaneous movement, making her able to dash around quickly in a group instead of having to take long awkward hops through the group. Plus combined with her rapier's new range, she can easily land hits on a target by dashing forward before swinging.

EDIT: Just noticed I (accidentally) saved 1 tec, meaning you'll be free to use any 0-cost bit (sorry, IMO it's not worth trying to shove a 5-10 cost bit on her). I'd just use Dual 3-way though, due to it's high damage, it'll be able to thwack opponents being stunlocked during your combo.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 10:32 pm

yeah, Im using 0 cost bit.. that saved of 1 tec was by accident.. I changed 1 20 cost +3 STR (Great Alpha) for a High Alpha.. plus changed 2 High TGH to High Alpha (that is the reason Fly went to 1)

Asault step is good, but I use the Short bost to catch Airs (I love to kill airs with LNDs!) Asult step looks good for catch Land units or for dogging...

Your point about the WLK and jump into a group.. sound interesting!!! I believe I can play with the Pompom and lost some wlk and add more STR!!!

The Crown Hat (1 str, 1 tgh) it´s someting I´m missing... and I missed one last week from a lotto cube!

I remember some ppls uses Float Dash in Ivis, hasn´t seen them for a while!!!

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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 10:36 pm

LXE wrote:
Damn that's OP.

But how does the healing work?
Using CV = +30 HP
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 10:38 pm

God is a Cat Girl wrote:
LXE wrote:
Damn that's OP.

But how does the healing work?
Using CV = +30 HP
It's not working...
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 10:41 pm

LXE wrote:
God is a Cat Girl wrote:
LXE wrote:
Damn that's OP.

But how does the healing work?
Using CV = +30 HP
It's not working...
You probably don't have EIW.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 10:46 pm

God is a Cat Girl wrote:
LXE wrote:
God is a Cat Girl wrote:

Using CV = +30 HP
It's not working...
You probably don't have EIW.

Oh, so that's why...

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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 2 EmptyFri May 04, 2012 11:08 pm

What I've done so far, I still got those 3 EX Great tune elements.
Dat 510hp.

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