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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyMon May 07, 2012 2:45 pm

Raven wrote:
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Just watch the HP. Pretty old video, but it basically illustrates that under enough fire, stun regain can actually heal you under the effects of CV.

only if the enemys are using weapons with stun modificators.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyMon May 07, 2012 2:52 pm

Aurum_Sol wrote:
Raven wrote:
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Just watch the HP. Pretty old video, but it basically illustrates that under enough fire, stun regain can actually heal you under the effects of CV.

only if the enemys are using weapons with stun modificators.
Funny thing about that video is, winberyl doesn't even set off stun regain at all.

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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyMon May 07, 2012 3:13 pm

You guys are all doing it wrong, make her a CV hopper with dual pierce gun mods. Don't forget to tune both guns for triple Great Supply on each so you have enough ammo.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyMon May 07, 2012 4:27 pm

you have builtin CV 0w0

Tune Clearance to get all guard unstunnable immune hopper
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyMon May 07, 2012 4:29 pm

tehprognoob wrote:
you have builtin CV 0w0

Tune Clearance to get all guard unstunnable immune hopper
her second eiw has all guard clown
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyMon May 07, 2012 4:31 pm

Still get immune from Clearance ww

Tune HS for lulz?
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyMon May 07, 2012 6:00 pm

Suguri wrote:
Aurum_Sol wrote:
Raven wrote:
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Just watch the HP. Pretty old video, but it basically illustrates that under enough fire, stun regain can actually heal you under the effects of CV.

only if the enemys are using weapons with stun modificators.
Funny thing about that video is, winberyl doesn't even set off stun regain at all.

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your wrong, drawguns trigger stun regain and revenge tunes when the target is affected by either clearence or crimson veil allready
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyWed May 09, 2012 12:31 am

Assault Step on Ivis

Details:
1 Fly
No Quick Land
Notice a delay in the jumps (lack of Q.Land)

Good to catch and dodge, I was able to catch hopper Reshas and with timing I was able to dodnge the Resha attacks (the nuke). Missint the ability to catch low fly air from short bost. Will not say that is good or bad, it´s based on your game play and what your really wants.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyThu May 10, 2012 6:42 am

This is all what I can do with 16 tgh

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This with 22 tgh

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this

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this with more tgh but crapy str, I don't know all the break points so I'm only speculating in this

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and this with more tgh and more str

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but I guess I'm doing it wrong in the last ones trying to use clearance and only 1 slow, but well, that is only take this, change that and get more of something... or I'm probably doing it all wrong.... but well thats why I'm posting them so you can tell me what is wrong
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyThu May 10, 2012 7:08 pm

Stop spamming 5 builds, pick one that you think is best.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyThu May 10, 2012 7:44 pm

LXE wrote:
Stop spamming 5 builds, pick one that you think is best.

I would hope that ( as a Forum Staff member ) you never say something so contradictory to what this section of the forum is about. Why the hell would you tell him to pick his own build when clearly the only reason for even POSTING his build here was to get community input?

He even clearly says at the bottom of his post that he's posting here incase he's doing something wrong.

I personally like the second build better, since you lose roughly 4 str in trade for getting 6 TGH.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyThu May 10, 2012 7:52 pm

Trill wrote:
LXE wrote:
Stop spamming 5 builds, pick one that you think is best.

I would hope that ( as a Forum Staff member ) you never say something so contradictory to what this section of the forum is about. Why the hell would you tell him to pick his own build when clearly the only reason for even POSTING his build here was to get community input?

He even clearly says at the bottom of his post that he's posting here incase he's doing something wrong.

I personally like the second build better, since you lose roughly 4 str in trade for getting 6 TGH.
If you put it that way... :/

Well anyway, what I'm trying to encourage him to have is a "concept", and when building a bot, you would want to stick with that concept. So instead of spamming 5 builds all at once, I think it's better for him to think more about his own play style and what suits him and then think about what stats will suit the build.

A concept is like the foundation of a build, without it, your build can potentially crumble.

(PS - I'm speaking as another forumer, not a staff member)
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyThu May 10, 2012 9:13 pm

LXE wrote:
Trill wrote:
LXE wrote:
Stop spamming 5 builds, pick one that you think is best.

I would hope that ( as a Forum Staff member ) you never say something so contradictory to what this section of the forum is about. Why the hell would you tell him to pick his own build when clearly the only reason for even POSTING his build here was to get community input?

He even clearly says at the bottom of his post that he's posting here incase he's doing something wrong.

I personally like the second build better, since you lose roughly 4 str in trade for getting 6 TGH.
If you put it that way... :/

Well anyway, what I'm trying to encourage him to have is a "concept", and when building a bot, you would want to stick with that concept. So instead of spamming 5 builds all at once, I think it's better for him to think more about his own play style and what suits him and then think about what stats will suit the build.

A concept is like the foundation of a build, without it, your build can potentially crumble.

(PS - I'm speaking as another forumer, not a staff member)

:v but I just want to know what is bad in those builds so I can decide for one of those, I'm putting all those cause I want to see which of those different playstyles is like more "better" in terms of build. Like saying, if you want to have more tgh, like for ex 22 tgh, so is better to have more wlk. I want to see which playstyle is more funny, not only deciding in a build that I know is more likely I play, I just want more variations in my game experience.... isn't that the real reason for playing more? or just staking in one playstyle forever? why don't you ask me why I put all those builds instead of trying to understand others minds without even knowing them?

you are only speculating on what the person think without reading :v
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyThu May 10, 2012 9:48 pm

A bit off-topic:

For those getting Assault Step:

- Quick Jump affects Assault Step.
- Quick Jump affects Assault Step.
- A normal Assault Step's "flip" is lower than a normal Short Boost.
- Assault Step "flips" + Quick Jump = normal Short Boost (we're talking about the Short boost without Quick jump)
- Left and right flips of Assault Step are lower than the backward flip.

*I haven't confirmed this yet but I think the forward dash of Assault step is not affected by WLK. It only has a fixed distance.

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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyThu May 10, 2012 10:01 pm

Kuzuha wrote:
*I haven't confirmed this yet but I think the forward dash of Assault step is not affected by WLK. It only has a fixed distance.
Feels to me like there's a pretty significant difference between 22 and 32 wlk assault steps.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyThu May 10, 2012 10:13 pm

Kuzuha wrote:
- Quick Jump affects Assault Step.
- Quick Jump affects Assault Step.
Quick Jump and Quick Land? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptyFri May 11, 2012 3:55 pm

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Trill I want to be like you! you were so polite! I would start a flaming rage fight again... ( just beacause my lack of english), hes post didn't help or answer Shadow post...

now on topic:

yes Shadow, I like the 2nd, its like my build.. but with less WLK... I believe 36 wlk is a must be, cause as a alway LND you need to run! always run as fast as you can! (I know you are using clearance to avoid that anoying Resha Nukes and Eris Uncloak)

Based on Cat Girl post, we need to move that 22 TGH to 23 to get more from the stun regain!!!


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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptySat May 12, 2012 1:23 am

How 2 get tune builder with new Ivis? ;-;
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptySat May 12, 2012 1:42 am

Blead's calculator can be found on koicalc's thread, use it.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptySat May 12, 2012 1:47 am

Thanks <3
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptySat May 12, 2012 7:57 am

one question, how chain guard works?
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptySat May 12, 2012 8:03 am

Nymph~ wrote:
one question, how chain guard works?
Your invulnerability lasts until it ends or when you get hit by an attack.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptySat May 12, 2012 8:23 am

LXE wrote:
Nymph~ wrote:
one question, how chain guard works?
Your invulnerability lasts until it ends or when you get hit by an attack.
how can we get attacked when invulnerable, and invulnerable mean can tank nuke haku?, how long the duration?, any restriction?
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptySat May 12, 2012 8:25 am

Nymph~ wrote:
LXE wrote:
Nymph~ wrote:
one question, how chain guard works?
Your invulnerability lasts until it ends or when you get hit by an attack.
how can we get attacked when invulnerable, and invulnerable mean can tank nuke haku?, how long the duration?, any restriction?
When I said invulnerable, I didn't mean invincible (I haven't tried it against Haku's explosion, I'm horrible at wb dodging as it is).

When you get hit the shield breaks.
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PostSubject: Re: New Ivis   New Ivis - Page 5 EmptySat May 12, 2012 8:36 am

LXE wrote:
Nymph~ wrote:
LXE wrote:
Your invulnerability lasts until it ends or when you get hit by an attack.
how can we get attacked when invulnerable, and invulnerable mean can tank nuke haku?, how long the duration?, any restriction?
When I said invulnerable, I didn't mean invincible (I haven't tried it against Haku's explosion, I'm horrible at wb dodging as it is).

When you get hit the shield breaks.
hmm, get hit by ?
so, when invulnerable still receive (reduced) damage from attack or completely nulify them?
can AoE such as SDC/Vox penetrate it ?
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