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Aria Master Poster
Posts : 2859 Join date : 2011-03-24 Age : 34
| Subject: [Help] Elisalotte Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:15 am | |
| atm: Anyone gonna recommend a build for it? | |
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donggyu Regular Poster
Posts : 159 Join date : 2011-02-06
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:25 am | |
| :X I thought it was better to tune locked parts first so you could junk if anything went wrong? | |
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falcon1 Adept Poster
Posts : 800 Join date : 2011-02-06 Age : 33 Location : SNSD's dorm
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:39 am | |
| - donggyu wrote:
- :X I thought it was better to tune locked parts first so you could junk if anything went wrong?
Yes silly, but there's nothing wrong in tuning accessories or stat weapons ( fireflowers, pompoms ) that you have an abundance of. | |
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Aria Master Poster
Posts : 2859 Join date : 2011-03-24 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:41 am | |
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Rinrin Ace Poster
Posts : 1619 Join date : 2011-03-18 Location : Koko ni Iru Yo!
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:53 am | |
| asagi's double CV 1 capa tuned elisa says hi. | |
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God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
Posts : 5296 Join date : 2011-04-25
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:57 pm | |
| - donggyu wrote:
- :X I thought it was better to tune locked parts first so you could junk if anything went wrong?
I think that it depends how you tune. Once I tuned Patty, but then I didn't like the build and junked her. She was fully tuned, so this would result in a big loss of mats. But! I did the wlk tunes on the 2 BS instead, so when I junked her, there was almost no need to tune wlk again, because there was nothing wrong with the tunes on the 2 BS. (and the ACC also had wlk tunes) Also, I can just put those BS on other bots if needed. That's about 4 tunes (6 with the ACC) that I didn't really waste. | |
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Alpherior Regular Poster
Posts : 459 Join date : 2011-04-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:21 pm | |
| 40 TEC
Focus on making it very fast on ground with boost run, and you'll need 16 or 21 TGH for sure.
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:15 am | |
| - Alpherior wrote:
- 40 TEC
Stop trolling in the Guide section. |
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Alpherior Regular Poster
Posts : 459 Join date : 2011-04-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:23 am | |
| - LXE wrote:
- Alpherior wrote:
- 40 TEC
Stop trolling in the Guide section. Edited. | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 913
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:31 am | |
| Elisa with 16/21 tgh is pretty unrealistic. Her limited capacity and low wlk means most of your tunes will be going to wlk/str. I'd aim for 11 instead, a value a lot easier to reach. | |
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Alpherior Regular Poster
Posts : 459 Join date : 2011-04-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:35 am | |
| - Trill wrote:
- Elisa with 16/21 tgh is pretty unrealistic. Her limited capacity and low wlk means most of your tunes will be going to wlk/str. I'd aim for 11 instead, a value a lot easier to reach.
You do have a point, but I just feel like most melee units just need 16 or above TGH. Think about it, wether you're trying to rambo into a crowd or be a stealthy assassin with Elisalotte, the second some faggot AIR comes along or multiple people spam you, the stun and damage could be your biggest downfall. | |
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NotZetsubou Adept Poster
Posts : 550 Join date : 2011-03-04 Age : 101 Location : Eientei Inn, room #12
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:29 am | |
| edit...dont look into spoiler, wrong topic... - Spoiler:
random thing i realize about new adjustment on chivalry
now you can spam chivalry as anti melee bot, since it not eat away wb guage anymore, chivalry it self also give shock/root stop them to moving , elisalotte get super armor while doing this mean other melee bot wont stop her even if they trade hit. and the area of sword rain is far enough to stop axer/dae am2 before it reach
still wb dodge from her slash is still viable, and chivalry have a bit long interval >.<
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Nymph~ Ace Poster
Posts : 1221 Join date : 2011-07-23
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:22 am | |
| why ellisalotte need fireflower, and fireflower might comboed with melee, not fun D: she has decent slot but shitty capa, and I've problem to fit broad radar on her | |
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Aria Master Poster
Posts : 2859 Join date : 2011-03-24 Age : 34
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:40 am | |
| - Trill wrote:
- Elisa with 16/21 tgh is pretty unrealistic. Her limited capacity and low wlk means most of your tunes will be going to wlk/str. I'd aim for 11 instead, a value a lot easier to reach.
Bold: 14 w/o Aura 16 with Aura. - Nymph~ wrote:
- why ellisalotte need fireflower, and fireflower might comboed with melee, not fun D:
Nah, I've been practicing so fireflower won't get interfered with the combo and yea, it's fine now. | |
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Rinrin Ace Poster
Posts : 1619 Join date : 2011-03-18 Location : Koko ni Iru Yo!
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:41 am | |
| iirc if shes auraed she only gets +1 tgh oh ur using her BS ic. i recommend changing that BS thou.
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Aria Master Poster
Posts : 2859 Join date : 2011-03-24 Age : 34
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Rinrin Ace Poster
Posts : 1619 Join date : 2011-03-18 Location : Koko ni Iru Yo!
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:15 am | |
| for myself, i use a byakko bs. if the boost run chart hasnt changed, i plan to go according to this build. (need to untune my handgun thou) - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Elisalotte
【Parts】 BD: Elisalotte BD : AURA System(default) : Elisalotte LG [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] : Elisalotte HD [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Power Alpha] : Black Layer Ribbon : Berry Earrings [High Tough] : Byakkou BS [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Elisalotte AM [Tough] [Power] [Power] : Princess Chivalry [Slow] [Slow] [High Gladiator] : Elisalotte AM2 [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [Tank] : Handgun [Run] [Run] [Tank]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1225 CAPA: 1225 HP: 416 STR: 32 TEC: 1 WLK: 32 FLY: 1 TGH: 16
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Sword Guard Short Boost Stun Regain Boost Run
【必要素材】 Fudara Cosmos×12 Engine Shaft×87 Blue Chip×75 Green Chip×35 Snail Liquid×87 Power Amp×46 Shock Graphite×28 Brake Damper×18 Hard Plate×11 Hidora Cosmos×5 Fourda Cosmos×3 Rapid Crystal×77 Rainbow Chip×49 Scope Lens×17 Prism Glass×23 Midoro Cosmos×2 Screw Bolts×40 Steel Wheel×24
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Divinity Regular Poster
Posts : 262 Join date : 2011-01-03 Age : 29 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:29 am | |
| Her BS is pretty good actually. IMO, Broad Radar is a really nice cart on her just to find loners or evade airs. Aria should add +1 TGH to reach breakpoint. And more wlk to make up for not using boost run. Also, why Tough Runner and Stun Regain when you have CV? My Build (help wanted too) - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Elisalotte
【Parts】 BD: Elisalotte BD : AURA System(default) : Elisalotte LG [Capacity] [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil] : Elisalotte HD [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] : Mini Pumpkin Hat : Berry Earrings : Elisalotte BS [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] : Elisalotte AM [High Run Beta] [High Power Alpha] [Run] : Princess Chivalry [High Gladiator] [Slow] [Slow] : Elisalotte AM2 [Tough] [High Run] [High Run] : -
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1270 CAPA: 1275 HP: 411 STR: 24 TEC: 8 WLK: 35 FLY: 5 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Blast Guard Short Boost Boost Run Broad Radar
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×102 Fudara Cosmos×49 Midoro Cosmos×23 Yoguru Cosmos×10 Fourda Cosmos×3 Blue Chip×60 Green Chip×50 Rainbow Chip×79 Power Amp×209 Engine Shaft×61 Brake Damper×5 Physical Stone×250 Scope Lens×17 Rapid Crystal×77 Shock Graphite×7 Snail Liquid×106 Prism Glass×23 Hard Plate×100 Screw Bolts×200 Miracle Ammonite×60 Shining Feather×60
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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:17 pm | |
| Can anyone rate this here Elisa build I made for a friend? - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Elisalotte
【Parts】 BD: Elisalotte BD : AURA System(default) : Elisalotte LG [High Run] [High Run] : Elisalotte HD [High Run] [High Run] : Cute Beret : Berry Earrings : Elisalotte BS [High Run] [High Run] : Elisalotte AM [Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Princess Chivalry [Tough] [High Run Beta] : Elisalotte AM2 [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Lightning Edge
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1225 CAPA: 1225 HP: 391 STR: 28 TEC: 11 WLK: 28 FLY: 7 TGH: 11
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance internal weapon×2 Stun Regain Boost Run
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×10 Blue Chip×37 Green Chip×5 Power Amp×28 Engine Shaft×83 Brake Damper×5 Shock Graphite×21 Snail Liquid×69
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Nymph~ Ace Poster
Posts : 1221 Join date : 2011-07-23
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:34 pm | |
| MBG bs add 2TGH, 2 FLY,1 WLK, -1TEC, 20 Hp for 35 cost, and small too
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Rhyadel Regular Poster
Posts : 273 Join date : 2011-05-24
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:36 pm | |
| I think she is a bit better with a gun in the spare hand than pure melee but I play most bots wrong anyways.
I have tried her with 21 tgh but it doesnt seem to make much of a difference. | |
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Rinrin Ace Poster
Posts : 1619 Join date : 2011-03-18 Location : Koko ni Iru Yo!
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:24 am | |
| - NovaZero wrote:
- Can anyone rate this here Elisa build I made for a friend?
- Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Elisalotte
【Parts】 BD: Elisalotte BD : AURA System(default) : Elisalotte LG [High Run] [High Run] : Elisalotte HD [High Run] [High Run] : Cute Beret : Berry Earrings : Elisalotte BS [High Run] [High Run] : Elisalotte AM [Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Princess Chivalry [Tough] [High Run Beta] : Elisalotte AM2 [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Lightning Edge
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1225 CAPA: 1225 HP: 391 STR: 28 TEC: 11 WLK: 28 FLY: 7 TGH: 11
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance internal weapon×2 Stun Regain Boost Run
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×10 Blue Chip×37 Green Chip×5 Power Amp×28 Engine Shaft×83 Brake Damper×5 Shock Graphite×21 Snail Liquid×69
most people go without internals. if u can chivalry much u dont need internals, but pretty difficult to do this in the current meta. 28/7 boost run is only green tier. imo elisa needs to be faster. no weapon tunes on ur build. ._. | |
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Soviet_Armada Newbie
Posts : 28 Join date : 2011-02-05
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:36 pm | |
| wait junking locked bots "restores" broken slots? So if, for example, i tuned and failed all 3 slots on her arms, junked her and rebuilt, her slots would be like new? | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 913
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:43 pm | |
| Yes they would. Although any sucessful tune would be gone as well. | |
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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: [Help] Elisalotte Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:01 am | |
| - Rinrin wrote:
- NovaZero wrote:
- Can anyone rate this here Elisa build I made for a friend?
- Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Elisalotte
【Parts】 BD: Elisalotte BD : AURA System(default) : Elisalotte LG [High Run] [High Run] : Elisalotte HD [High Run] [High Run] : Cute Beret : Berry Earrings : Elisalotte BS [High Run] [High Run] : Elisalotte AM [Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Princess Chivalry [Tough] [High Run Beta] : Elisalotte AM2 [High Power Alpha] [High Power Alpha] : Lightning Edge
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1225 CAPA: 1225 HP: 391 STR: 28 TEC: 11 WLK: 28 FLY: 7 TGH: 11
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Enhance internal weapon×2 Stun Regain Boost Run
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×10 Blue Chip×37 Green Chip×5 Power Amp×28 Engine Shaft×83 Brake Damper×5 Shock Graphite×21 Snail Liquid×69
most people go without internals. if u can chivalry much u dont need internals, but pretty difficult to do this in the current meta. 28/7 boost run is only green tier. imo elisa needs to be faster. no weapon tunes on ur build. ._. It's mainly because my friend wants the Lightning Edge kept there. | |
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