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Guest Guest
| Subject: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:37 pm | |
| Hello everyone. Today I finished my Wedding Cube and got Elisalotte WD, and now I've been trying her out. She seems rather decent and she's super cute and poofy too! She also works a bit different from regular Elisalotte from what I see.
However, I need to know how to make a build for her that is really awesome. Of course I equipped her Wedding Knife so that she can actually battle. However, what weps and BS should I give her? And any other ideas on how to make her awesome? I dunno where to even start for her, I could use some help here. |
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Kuzuha What Abbey Get
Posts : 2441 Join date : 2011-10-03 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:12 pm | |
| From experience so far, the melee combo of the Wedding knife isn't very good. There seems to be a part of the combo that gives the target a chance to escape (even actually not get hit) which in result makes Elisa WD open to attacks. Though her sword provides the guard capability like that of Glanz.
Going back, I'm using my Elisa WD as a ranged attacker. Buckler and (insert ranged weapon here). I would love to use the guard provided by the wedding knife but this disables me from shooting and guarding at the same time compared to using a buckler.
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Electric Regular Poster
Posts : 150 Join date : 2012-08-12 Age : 28 Location : One day the dream will end
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:33 pm | |
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Alathon Adept Poster
Posts : 509 Join date : 2011-05-08 Age : 427 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:55 pm | |
| intense oblique workout training | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:57 pm | |
| RIP Kuzuha you will be missed he died like he lived trying to explain how to play elisalotte | |
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Koiro God Poster
Posts : 5490 Join date : 2012-09-16 Age : 26 Location : Somewhere in the state of Country
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:22 pm | |
| I hope he didn't actually die ;_;.
That'd be awfully terrible | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:28 pm | |
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Frizz Busted
Posts : 2029 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 37 Location : Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:52 pm | |
| Noooo Kuzuha | |
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Gerrion Wild Molcar
Posts : 2218 Join date : 2012-01-10 Age : 37 Location : Portugal (Europe)
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:04 pm | |
| I just hope it was just something not dead serious. He's one of those players that was fun and fair to have around | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:50 pm | |
| inb4 he just posted from his cell phone. | |
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Kuzuha What Abbey Get
Posts : 2441 Join date : 2011-10-03 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:59 pm | |
| Lol. I just realized I added a "<" symbol instead of an "(". I was in a hurry because I'm at work so I never got to review my post. | |
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Koiro God Poster
Posts : 5490 Join date : 2012-09-16 Age : 26 Location : Somewhere in the state of Country
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:06 pm | |
| - KZA wrote:
- Lol. I just realized I added a "<" symbol instead of an "(". I was in a hurry because I'm at work so I never got to review my post.
Holy shit we panicked for nothing. | |
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Kuzuha What Abbey Get
Posts : 2441 Join date : 2011-10-03 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:09 pm | |
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Alathon Adept Poster
Posts : 509 Join date : 2011-05-08 Age : 427 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:12 pm | |
| - Koiro10 wrote:
- KZA wrote:
- Lol. I just realized I added a "<" symbol instead of an "(". I was in a hurry because I'm at work so I never got to review my post.
Holy shit we panicked for nothing. >you panicked | |
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ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:00 pm | |
| ...You know he had to press "send" before there was an unfinished sentence for us to see...right?
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I don't even. | |
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Kuzuha What Abbey Get
Posts : 2441 Join date : 2011-10-03 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:04 pm | |
| Actually, as long as you typed a "<" symbol, anything that goes after it won't be shown unless you end it with ">" or "/>" (those html coding stuff).
Going back to the topic, the wedding knife's 2nd combo is the slowest part which I think can cause the target to escape (You can try stopping at the 2nd combo and notice how slow the animation window is).
Using her AoE can be a bit tricky. It would be better to get a weapon that has around 240 or less range since the AoE of Elisa WD has 250 range. This should give you a quick estimate on your target. Target also shouldn't be moving that much as the AoE can miss easily. Be careful using it as well because it can, from observation, decrease framerate. You will hate it. | |
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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:08 pm | |
| What if you tune slow on her Wedding Knife?
Or is that a given for most melees? | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:21 pm | |
| - NovaZero wrote:
- What if you tune slow on her Wedding Knife?
Or is that a given for most melees? You don't. If you wanna keep the knife for anything it's the block (and in that case I'd consider learning to utilize the melee to). | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:45 am | |
| Okay, enough with that rant. I'll tell you how I'm going so far with Elisalotte WD, after some people gave me some helpful tips while chatting in-game.
Currently, I equipped an Ace Braver BS to her, since it gives her more TGH, which she needs a bit more of, and is the best BS part I have that she can use. I also gave her a Wedding Bouquet, a Black Layered Ribbon, and a Mini Dress Ivis with Tough tuned on it. I also tuned the Ace Braver BS on her for High Power Alpha. That, and I leveled her up to LVL 1 and gave her a Raise Cost/HP Cartridge for this Level Up.
Currently, my Elisalotte WD is at 351 HP, 25 STR, 13 TEC, 17 WLK, 12 FLY, and 12 TGH. Anything you'd like to say about what I have so far? |
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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:55 am | |
| - Zwiebel Force wrote:
- You don't. If you wanna keep the knife for anything it's the block (and in that case I'd consider learning to utilize the melee to).
Isn't that more incentive to tune slow on the knife? Since you can't switch out of the knife, you might as well make the most out of the thing. | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:24 am | |
| You don't have enough hits for slow imo. The melee is extremely clunky. | |
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Axanael [SKELETOR]
Posts : 1319 Join date : 2012-08-02 Age : 27 Location : Team Manager for WoW
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:51 am | |
| Plus, her capacity is very tight, taking all 6/7? Capacity Carts (I can't remember the exact number off the top of my head), leaves you at 990/1190 capacity including the sword. That means you have 200 capacity free, but putting in 2 10 cost handhelds, taking 10 cartridges, and a BS realistically only leaves you some 120-170? free capacity to tune up some 17 odd STR and 17 odd WLK, which, even assuming most beta tunes, makes weapon tuning questionable. The way I see it, to keep the knife and even fit a buckler and weapon too, you're probably going to disregard STR and tune mobility and weapon tunes, revenge tunes are probably out of the question, possibly a Lv 9 build, and even Capacity tuning, though in my own opinion, WD Elisalotte is too mediocre for me to make an investment of capacity tunes. | |
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rei_hunter Surprised Shiromo
Posts : 4660 Join date : 2010-09-22 Location : Amatsu (Philippines)
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:00 am | |
| slow tunes? i'd just just focus on stats. her Slashing doesn't have lots of hits. | |
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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:07 am | |
| I did some fiddling in CosmiCalc. I managed to achieve 40/32 with a pure melee build but it would only have enough room for 2 HGlads on the Wedding Knife, assuming that's enough to fix the lag window Elisa has between strikes, and no room for Revenge tunes of any kind, or even a Buckler, because she can just Guard. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Elisalotte
【Parts】 BD: Elisalotte BD7 : Chivalry Shield Bit : Elisalotte LG7 [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [Run] : Elisalotte HD7 [High Run Beta] [High Run Beta] [Power] : Red Silk Hat [High Run Beta] : Berry Earrings : Pawnger BS [High Run Beta] [High Power Alpha] [Power] : Elisalotte AM13 [High Power Beta] [High Power Beta] [Power] : Wedding Bouquet GAMMA [Power] [Power] : Wedding Knife [High Gladiator] [High Gladiator] [Power] : Elisalotte AM14 [High Power Beta] [High Power Beta] [Power] : Wedding Bouquet GAMMA [Tough] [Tough]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: S COST: 1195 CAPA: 1195 HP: 411 STR: 40 TEC: 3 WLK: 32 FLY: 1 TGH: 11
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Sword Guard Stun Regain Sway Boost Run
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×10 Fudara Cosmos×11 Fourda Cosmos×2 Blue Chip×60 Green Chip×50 Rainbow Chip×22 Power Amp×64 Engine Shaft×35 Brake Damper×10 Scope Lens×34 Rapid Crystal×46 Shock Graphite×19 Snail Liquid×18 Prism Glass×46
There are probably some cheaper parts that you could use, and I have a bad tendency to try and look decent with my builds, but that's what I managed to get. | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Elisalotte WD Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:38 am | |
| ^I'd save the Rainbows for something worth them. The entire animation is weird. You also have enough TEC to take Dual Spike Bits instead. | |
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