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Posts : 219 Join date : 2010-12-15 Age : 36 Location : NET
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Tue May 31, 2011 4:34 pm
Nisa wrote:
Nihil679 wrote:
He actually makes sense.
I want some of those drugs you have been taking.
Getting in the line for those drugs...
Nihil679 Regular Poster
Posts : 326 Join date : 2010-12-30 Age : 30 Location : Salt Factory
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Tue May 31, 2011 4:46 pm
Nisa wrote:
Nihil679 wrote:
boytitan2 wrote:
cause aside from seraph crim wait litzelt booster achan nvm.
cause anything u can do with a uc build u can make better mixed with rt.
Why use hoveron hopping builds or victory one with a lot of wlk and sway when there amateus and better amteus like nova or muichi.
Why use both squalers ams when theres K sword and B C am sword.
Why use tengu when theres geo grassis.
Why use a hopping accel saber with viper shield when theres dual k shield.
Why use detrutor When theres toychan. genbu.
Why use lily rain when the garapon ones core hurts alot more lol.
Why use hammers when theres jet hammer.
points is rt parts give better builds or have better core weapons.
He actually makes sense.
I want some of those drugs you have been taking.
It's called "CosmicBreak Fanforums."
Rinrin Ace Poster
Posts : 1619 Join date : 2011-03-18 Location : Koko ni Iru Yo!
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:34 pm
Idontlive wrote:
Nisa wrote:
Nihil679 wrote:
He actually makes sense.
I want some of those drugs you have been taking.
Getting in the line for those drugs...
leave some for me, cos i dont understand a single thing either.
FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:04 pm
He actually DOES make some sense. Consider the most recently released RT Garabots. Besides Elisa and Melfi(who's OP in a healer sense anyway), nearly every RTbot has at least one or more stat(s) over 20. You can even look at the original 3 fangirls. All three of them, iirc, have at least one stat over 20. Not to mention 1)all RT parts have two or three slots, which means more tuning, 2)RTbots usually don't have to tank hard on other stats in order to maximize their stat potential. Even if they do, they usually don't suffer in more than one stat, and 3)Certain RTbots have insane BDweapons(read: Ah-chan).
In contrast, few UCbots have one or more stats over 20(the few that do usually have one stat over). Most have zero, one, or maybe two-slotted parts, and the two/three slotted UC parts must be searched for by grinding boss quests, arena, or Arcantus. The general lack of slots means the bot needs more tuning to maximize stat potential, and to do so generally means tanking in one or more stats. Adding to this problem is the general lack of UC BDs that have stats over, at, or even close to 20, although there are some in supply. This compounds the need for tuning to maximize stats, and compounds the problem of tuning itself, i.e access to multislotted parts only by grind, no advanced tuning mats whatsoever, etc. Advanced UCbots, like Seraph, either must be bought with RT(I've seen diamond or even triangle ranks with a Seraph, and it makes me cry whenever I remember that I had to work until I was level 14-17 just to level up and earn enough UC to make my beloved starter Crim a Seraph) or need a shitload of grind to obtain. Unless you're devoting 3+ hours to the game, using optimal EXP and UC gain, it's not gonna be done with in 2 weeks, a month, maybe not even 2 months.
Rinrin Ace Poster
Posts : 1619 Join date : 2011-03-18 Location : Koko ni Iru Yo!
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:44 am
FireKiller87 wrote:
I've seen diamond or even triangle ranks with a Seraph.
i got mine in my brd sub acct at diamond, and in dos sub acct when i was a triangle. free level limit removers from logins and seraph promo from lotto.
FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:51 pm
Rinrin wrote:
FireKiller87 wrote:
I've seen diamond or even triangle ranks with a Seraph.
i got mine in my brd sub acct at diamond, and in dos sub acct when i was a triangle. free level limit removers from logins and seraph promo from lotto.
That's just luck. I'm talking about the scrubs who actually buy the RT promo and grind arena/boss quests.
Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 26 Location : Japan
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:04 pm
I'll do you one better.
This was before lotto, btw.
FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:11 pm
Suguri wrote:
I'll do you one better.
This was before lotto, btw.
...wat...
BNOISE Ace Poster
Posts : 1216 Join date : 2011-01-08 Age : 33 Location : Home
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:13 pm
FireKiller87 wrote:
Rinrin wrote:
FireKiller87 wrote:
I've seen diamond or even triangle ranks with a Seraph.
i got mine in my brd sub acct at diamond, and in dos sub acct when i was a triangle. free level limit removers from logins and seraph promo from lotto.
That's just luck. I'm talking about the scrubs who actually buy the RT promo and grind arena/boss quests.
dude you forget the free exp and uc gain boosts i got 2 seraphs and i was only still diamond rank diamond 3 but still diamond
FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:16 pm
BNOISE wrote:
FireKiller87 wrote:
Rinrin wrote:
i got mine in my brd sub acct at diamond, and in dos sub acct when i was a triangle. free level limit removers from logins and seraph promo from lotto.
That's just luck. I'm talking about the scrubs who actually buy the RT promo and grind arena/boss quests.
dude you forget the free exp and uc gain boosts i got 2 seraphs and i was only still diamond rank diamond 3 but still diamond
You mean those 30% increases? I didn't notice them helping me that much. If you're talking about the 2x stuff, IIRC they're RT only, and the only other things I remember are the level-up events and stuff like that.
knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 912
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:37 pm
There was a all x3 ticket alpha in there as part of your levelups, though to buy it is a pretty penny indeed.
Lazyboy804 Newbie
Posts : 31 Join date : 2011-04-10
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:53 am
boytitan2 wrote:
As much as u may not know uc players there is not that big a advantege to rt players and uc player the problem is u dont know how stuff works heres a guide.
Rinrin Ace Poster
Posts : 1619 Join date : 2011-03-18 Location : Koko ni Iru Yo!
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:40 pm
Lazyboy804 wrote:
boytitan2 wrote:
As much as u may not know uc players there is not that big a advantege to rt players and uc player the problem is u dont know how stuff works heres a guide.
lolz. guide where?
Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:03 pm
when i created an account i got an starterpass, given thats 2x uc and stacks with other tickets uc was never a problem ... and than it ended and i woke up and noticed how i wasted all those precius uc on garapon D:
no seriously, due to the starter ticket you wont have much problems in racking up the cash for the seraph at all
BNOISE Ace Poster
Posts : 1216 Join date : 2011-01-08 Age : 33 Location : Home
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:43 pm
FireKiller87 wrote:
BNOISE wrote:
FireKiller87 wrote:
That's just luck. I'm talking about the scrubs who actually buy the RT promo and grind arena/boss quests.
dude you forget the free exp and uc gain boosts i got 2 seraphs and i was only still diamond rank diamond 3 but still diamond
You mean those 30% increases? I didn't notice them helping me that much. If you're talking about the 2x stuff, IIRC they're RT only, and the only other things I remember are the level-up events and stuff like that.
30% is a lot if you do things for exp.... i mean if you play well you generally get like 100 exp so 30% more is 130 exp. it adds up after a while and i think there was another one that you get thats not rt... x3 alpha ticket from what knyx said probably is it.
regardless every little bit of exp counts.
oh and the noob ticket you get for free at the beginning helps a lot too that is if you started off with a crim and didn't let it run out by itself.
Nisa God Poster
Posts : 7152 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 28
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:15 am
boytitan2 wrote:
IM POSTING HERE CAUSE NO ONE LOOKS AT GUIDES HARDLY
As much as u may not know uc players there is not that big a advantege to rt players and uc player the problem is u dont know how stuff works heres a guide. Oh Gawd.
For arts to many and I mean way to many of u go around with fat arts with grandum bs, heres how your arts should be. First off for art mobility is way more important, dont even tune tec on most arts it doesent multiply as well as str, U will neeed the cappa tune wlk and fly and learn boost run always or just fly or just wlk and boost run. Ironic eh,coming for you
Hoveron this art is very and i mean very useful learn short boost this is most important cart, Make him a hopper, Level his core get two box missles or zookas and hop just like u see those amateus doing he does it just as well. He doesn't do it as well,2 box missles dont work btw.
Destrutor cn give him 2 shields. get small legs m sized ones,.Get both core upgrades. you are right on this one,except that tall legs work just as fine since your gun is mounted on the top. Destrutor just give him m sized legs, Get both core upgrades.AND DO NOT DO NOT EQUIP GRANDUM BOOSTER. dont use grenades with him either. Get him a bazooka and make him a hopper.
Lily rain learn float dash cart, Tune for fly, Do not I repeat do not use her like a fat art and sit there and spam both weapons always move. Mobile art V.1,get bazooka's.
Almost missed this guy victory 1. tune for wlk he has lots, Learn boost run give both core upgrades, Give dual shield dual zooka or dual box missles. or mix around that combo give better ams. or better yet,make him as low cost as possible and use ONLY the core,he doesn't need to walk fast either.
Those are your best possible art builds u should be able to get top 5 even first place with em I have done on my second acount plenty of times.
For lands u have more options that will give high scores. First off for lands tune str and wlk both should always be 30-40 never below walk should take priority,STR @ 20 should be sufficient. First off heres a build u didnt know of that can do good see that hammer in the shop that does 40 dmg got a red squaler bd put it on him, Put katana max legs and ams on. add a vipershild.U now have a melee build that does 100 dmg a hit that can kill vangaurds. WAHAHAHAHAHA 100 damage from hammer,surely you jest. also,RS arms are already good melee's.
Go haku quest and get kami staff it does pretty good on katana max jikun red squaler bd or shino . Great range too,but get used to the low damage
Use a dual shield red squaler with red squaler ams . It's "Squealer".
if u want a gunner land try
Cosmos kaiser with 2 core upgrades a vider shield and 8 vulcan You don't need the core upgrades.
And accel saber with a shield and zooka learn short boost cart or go berz quest get scouts rifle instead of zooka wil do well.l
Llazflame with dual custom magnums and short boost or sway will do well. And I though you hated "moe". Play smart dont charge in go for arts.
Airs
First off u have the most powerful air 2 me as uc seraph crim rose one u lvl a crim rose to lvl ten u can make here a seraph never promote less than 10. Her wings make here less mobile but gives anti homing making any homing weapon 2x more hard to hit her. Wing give her over 40 fly. tune tgh pass 20 I don't get hit much so I can do fine with 10. 40 fly is the limit,tgh is a unrequired luxury,wings slow turning speed but increase mobility,and I thought you hated "moe".
Basically i could go on about your air choices for ever there all good.
here what u really need to know always tune fly to 40 get at least 30 - 40 tec is a luxury,fly comes first. use either a plasma gun. wide beam gun.limited plasma gun.star dust cannon if your a l sized air u get this by running quests, wide beam gun. there u go and btw always use 1 weapon and a shield. You can go dual SDC's if you know how to do it right.
I dont state bots cause with airs it really depends on play style every one has there personal taste in airs just make sure to always fly and at a high height.
Finally I told u how to tune not only do u tune stats u can tune weapons most ahve to be do this first
I tune all my non melee weapons for speed and range its my fav and if its 3 slot depending on its ammo I tune ammo or do another speed or range tune. I don't tune my guns other than "force",therefore I won't comment on this.
Only time I do force tunes is on melee weapons that do over 30 dmg cause the str multiplier for melee is very high. A 40 dmg melee weapons can hit 170 dmg wile a 30 can hit 90 with 40 str big difference only melee that doesnt follow this rule is the chain saw for some reason. wut? force you mean,also it can't hit for 170 without 40 str,and hitting the back of an artillery,stat bonus from imbalanced team is optional,the chainsaw doesn't follow this rule because it hits many times.
Again the most important thing to ALLLL and I mean ALLLL bots is a small hit box and mobility u can have 40 wlk if u have a huge hit box ur still a easy ass fucking target Lol no. Also in order to do those real important tune ups you can go to the ground area got to cosmos pot.If u dont have em go arcantus and farm for materials.
The most importent carts If your art can learn short boost learn it learn boost run on all arts and lands. The rest is really personal preference and depends on cost just mix the carts around see what you like and dont.
some one would like to post supports Im literally and I mean literally to adhd to play em lol =D
use punctuation and proper grammar,it really helps.
boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 32 Location : Buffalo NewYork
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:54 am
Nisa wrote:
boytitan2 wrote:
IM POSTING HERE CAUSE NO ONE LOOKS AT GUIDES HARDLY
As much as u may not know uc players there is not that big a advantege to rt players and uc player the problem is u dont know how stuff works heres a guide. Oh Gawd.
For arts to many and I mean way to many of u go around with fat arts with grandum bs, heres how your arts should be. First off for art mobility is way more important, dont even tune tec on most arts it doesent multiply as well as str, U will neeed the cappa tune wlk and fly and learn boost run always or just fly or just wlk and boost run. Ironic eh,coming for you
Hoveron this art is very and i mean very useful learn short boost this is most important cart, Make him a hopper, Level his core get two box missles or zookas and hop just like u see those amateus doing he does it just as well. He doesn't do it as well,2 box missles dont work btw.
Destrutor cn give him 2 shields. get small legs m sized ones,.Get both core upgrades. you are right on this one,except that tall legs work just as fine since your gun is mounted on the top. Destrutor just give him m sized legs, Get both core upgrades.AND DO NOT DO NOT EQUIP GRANDUM BOOSTER. dont use grenades with him either. Get him a bazooka and make him a hopper.
Lily rain learn float dash cart, Tune for fly, Do not I repeat do not use her like a fat art and sit there and spam both weapons always move. Mobile art V.1,get bazooka's.
Almost missed this guy victory 1. tune for wlk he has lots, Learn boost run give both core upgrades, Give dual shield dual zooka or dual box missles. or mix around that combo give better ams. or better yet,make him as low cost as possible and use ONLY the core,he doesn't need to walk fast either.
Those are your best possible art builds u should be able to get top 5 even first place with em I have done on my second acount plenty of times.
For lands u have more options that will give high scores. First off for lands tune str and wlk both should always be 30-40 never below walk should take priority,STR @ 20 should be sufficient. First off heres a build u didnt know of that can do good see that hammer in the shop that does 40 dmg got a red squaler bd put it on him, Put katana max legs and ams on. add a vipershild.U now have a melee build that does 100 dmg a hit that can kill vangaurds. WAHAHAHAHAHA 100 damage from hammer,surely you jest. also,RS arms are already good melee's.
Go haku quest and get kami staff it does pretty good on katana max jikun red squaler bd or shino . Great range too,but get used to the low damage
Use a dual shield red squaler with red squaler ams . It's "Squealer".
if u want a gunner land try
Cosmos kaiser with 2 core upgrades a vider shield and 8 vulcan You don't need the core upgrades.
And accel saber with a shield and zooka learn short boost cart or go berz quest get scouts rifle instead of zooka wil do well.l
Llazflame with dual custom magnums and short boost or sway will do well. And I though you hated "moe". Play smart dont charge in go for arts.
Airs
First off u have the most powerful air 2 me as uc seraph crim rose one u lvl a crim rose to lvl ten u can make here a seraph never promote less than 10. Her wings make here less mobile but gives anti homing making any homing weapon 2x more hard to hit her. Wing give her over 40 fly. tune tgh pass 20 I don't get hit much so I can do fine with 10. 40 fly is the limit,tgh is a unrequired luxury,wings slow turning speed but increase mobility,and I thought you hated "moe".
Basically i could go on about your air choices for ever there all good.
here what u really need to know always tune fly to 40 get at least 30 - 40 tec is a luxury,fly comes first. use either a plasma gun. wide beam gun.limited plasma gun.star dust cannon if your a l sized air u get this by running quests, wide beam gun. there u go and btw always use 1 weapon and a shield. You can go dual SDC's if you know how to do it right.
I dont state bots cause with airs it really depends on play style every one has there personal taste in airs just make sure to always fly and at a high height.
Finally I told u how to tune not only do u tune stats u can tune weapons most ahve to be do this first
I tune all my non melee weapons for speed and range its my fav and if its 3 slot depending on its ammo I tune ammo or do another speed or range tune. I don't tune my guns other than "force",therefore I won't comment on this.
Only time I do force tunes is on melee weapons that do over 30 dmg cause the str multiplier for melee is very high. A 40 dmg melee weapons can hit 170 dmg wile a 30 can hit 90 with 40 str big difference only melee that doesnt follow this rule is the chain saw for some reason. wut? force you mean,also it can't hit for 170 without 40 str,and hitting the back of an artillery,stat bonus from imbalanced team is optional,the chainsaw doesn't follow this rule because it hits many times.
Again the most important thing to ALLLL and I mean ALLLL bots is a small hit box and mobility u can have 40 wlk if u have a huge hit box ur still a easy ass fucking target Lol no. Also in order to do those real important tune ups you can go to the ground area got to cosmos pot.If u dont have em go arcantus and farm for materials.
The most importent carts If your art can learn short boost learn it learn boost run on all arts and lands. The rest is really personal preference and depends on cost just mix the carts around see what you like and dont.
some one would like to post supports Im literally and I mean literally to adhd to play em lol =D
use punctuation and proper grammar,it really helps.
oh thanks thats much better
WAT IN THE BLUEST OF BLUE HELLS U DO FORCE TUNES ON NON MELEE WEAPONS
LazerRazer Regular Poster
Posts : 455 Join date : 2011-03-31 Age : 33 Location : Sweden
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:34 am
How to UC Boytitan style:
Grab UC BD
Grab RT LGs, AMs, Booster.
Tell everyone he can play UC bots.
Win!
Aurum_Sol Ace Poster
Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:23 am
force tunes on non melee weapons are actually really nice, force +3% that is
no matter how the dmg is you always get at least 1 force out of the tune thus the LESS force the weapon has, the better it scales and if we are talking about a multi bullet weapon the force explodes (read shotgun type weaons scale even better)
im not a fan of more then +3% force tunes though (everything above 3% is waste of cost)
Rinrin Ace Poster
Posts : 1619 Join date : 2011-03-18 Location : Koko ni Iru Yo!
Subject: Re: Guide to uc players builds Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:22 pm
boytitan2 wrote:
WAT IN THE BLUEST OF BLUE HELLS U DO FORCE TUNES ON NON MELEE WEAPONS
see my signature with the 20 force plasma gun? ignore my edit.