is this game broken?

i took 2 weeks of a CB from peace corps (maybe add a week) and now that i come back, i think the game is getting rediculous... vanguard, well the whole new garapon isn't a good business model, and vanguard its-self is kinda broken (tested and it seems he can 2-3 shot all my mains)

so... keep playing in agony or quit?

Im game.

if nothing on OB hinted you that cash users would spam flavor of the month to win hard, then maybe you should consider other less P2W games.

back in OB we had ivis everywhere. if you didnt had a ivis you had a air unit, if you had ART you were a rare breed that died out quickly or actualy had 30+ fly to GTFO.

when CS releases ivis, we will have even more "broken"ess around. when more broken bots come, everything will simply swift to the new broken bot, and we will begin everything again.

brokita1 wrote:

i took 2 weeks of a CB from peace corps (maybe add a week) and now that i come back, i think the game is getting rediculous... vanguard, well the whole new garapon isn't a good business model, and vanguard its-self is kinda broken (tested and it seems he can 2-3 shot all my mains)

so... keep playing in agony or quit?

yeah that THING can kill an art bot in 3-5 hit, when it's coming please get out of it's way

actually
CBJP updates should made an nerf for EVE, Vanguard and ivis

you can still play by switch to an AIR or keep an eye on your radar

well orignally ive been land since beta, since i love countering the plentiful Arts, but now with eve, everones going air, and its shifting the balance

Game is only as broken as you let it be. If you continue to play at a sub par level, or are not willing to change bots to survive the metagame, then your gonna get scraped plain and simple. Only thing I hate right now is EVE for doing 100+ damage from near draw distance, and vangaurds. I only hate vangaurds because people are either too stubborn or stupid to; check radar/scan horizon/ use beam rifles/ play more mobile artillery. Both however can be dealt with via quality play and planning, or in the case of vangaurds, a gun and some mobility.

I made sosad2day because I didn't want to see my poor destructor girl get manhandled by any more vanguards

Just gotta know that certain bots/weapons will always have a clear advantage over the other. Like say; how many airs do you see chasing capable arts with blast zookas

hate you CS - you go nerf Arts (blast guard) and Air (no more auto tracking lazr) but leave Land to spam the ground to death

the only non land bots that can truly handle the massive influx of land without needing a ton of skill -

Winnbrl
Bugsycait
Lily Rain EVE
Lily Rain
Saggitarius Maxis - this is only if you like staying in the back lines and spamming your railgun
Seraph Crimrose
Izuna
Brickgale
Anything that can carry Stardust Cannon

everything else generally gets dominated by land unless the player has some skill - this being in terms of actually killing the opposing land bot and not running away

Nilla wrote:

Just gotta know that certain bots/weapons will always have a clear advantage over the other. Like say; how many airs do you see chasing capable arts with blast zookas

The one packing high FLY and a range-tuned Negatron Rifle to stay away from the Blast Zooks, of course! :3 (although that admittedly is a fairly poor choice for any other situation except sniping)

As long as people maintain interest in a game, its possible that the game could last for 5 years.

But given that there is more pay content than not, it might be difficult to carry on like this.


But hey, what can I say? I'm also a victim of cosmic trolling.

Midreus wrote:

Nilla wrote:

Just gotta know that certain bots/weapons will always have a clear advantage over the other. Like say; how many airs do you see chasing capable arts with blast zookas

The one packing high FLY and a range-tuned Negatron Rifle to stay away from the Blast Zooks, of course! :3 (although that admittedly is a fairly poor choice for any other situation except sniping)

stardust > negatron rifle

/argument

Any type of air is capable of killing a vanguard unless you're a lady

If I owned either a Lily Rain EVE or Vanguard, I would be telling you to play better. Alas, I don't own either. Actually, I take that back. I probably wouldn't touch a Vanguard because the second an air gets within shooting range of them they're sitting ducks, and all I really use is AIRs and a DG so I'm usually out of sight out of mind the second a Vanguard comes by, and it usually falls victim to my painful plasma gun and/or full cart tuned missiles from a nearby cliff. However, Lily Rain EVE is very broken, and something seriously needs to be done about that obnoxiously big hitbox. There's been plenty of times I've had a shot fly next to my DG and not even touch her, and it still does full damage? It's sort of stupid, and makes a 1v1 with an EVE near impossible.

Oh yeah, hoppers are pretty broken too.

Spoiler:

xzpwnz wrote:

Any type of air is capable of killing a vanguard unless you're a lady

not small air like beezle - too little hp and you generally won't be flying that high so vanguard WILL hit you
same for basic crim and a lot of other bots

course when you finally tune them to 40 fly it's all good

maybe i should be more clear - any air that has 40 fly

BNOISE wrote:

xzpwnz wrote:

Any type of air is capable of killing a vanguard unless you're a lady

not small air like beezle - too little hp and you generally won't be flying that high so vanguard WILL hit you
same for basic crim and a lot of other bots

course when you finally tune them to 40 fly it's all good

maybe i should be more clear - any air that has 40 fly

I don't think you're playing airs right bro. It doesn't really even matter how much fly you have, you can roll a vanguard with a bathelon in mid air with it's shields on and still go untouched, I do it all the time with my bathelon just for shits and giggles. Granted, it has dual SDCs, but it should be just as easy, if not, easier with a beezle.

funny.. if u check the gara and shop.. it's full of AIR, and there isn't too much to chose from LND.. I think this game lacks in LND bots...

there will be always one or 2 bots that rule... and all noob ppls will use them cause it's the easy way to play.. like hopper... get one and u will surbibe a lot... xD.

DarkChuky wrote:

funny.. if u check the gara and shop.. it's full of AIR, and there isn't too much to chose from LND.. I think this game lacks in LND bots...

there will be always one or 2 bots that rule... and all noob ppls will use them cause it's the easy way to play.. like hopper... get one and u will surbibe a lot... xD.

Hey man, don't hate on hoppers. It takes skills to play that bad.

/sarcasm

Actually, only part of it is sarcasm. I'll leave it up to you guys to guess which part that is.

Kobrakai wrote:

I don't think you're playing airs right bro. It doesn't really even matter how much fly you have, you can roll a vanguard with a bathelon in mid air with it's shields on and still go untouched, I do it all the time with my bathelon just for shits and giggles. Granted, it has dual SDCs, but it should be just as easy, if not, easier with a beezle.

iono man my beezle only got 20 fly and it always lands and get hit by them swords
not only that but it don't got quick boost cause i was trying to keep it cost low

BNOISE wrote:

everything else generally gets dominated by land unless the player has some skill - this being in terms of actually killing the opposing land bot and not running away

You're over-rating LND types.

You should be more afraid of AIRs, AIR > everything. My Seraph eats Vanguards for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and even for a midnight snack.

BNOISE wrote:

Kobrakai wrote:

I don't think you're playing airs right bro. It doesn't really even matter how much fly you have, you can roll a vanguard with a bathelon in mid air with it's shields on and still go untouched, I do it all the time with my bathelon just for shits and giggles. Granted, it has dual SDCs, but it should be just as easy, if not, easier with a beezle.

iono man my beezle only got 20 fly and it always lands and get hit by them swords
not only that but it don't got quick boost cause i was trying to keep it cost low

That's why you need to watch your radar for those fast moving circles, and get to higher ground. As an AIR, it's pretty much your responsibility to take care of any rushing LND bots, and distract/kite enemy territory so your team can rush in while they're off-guard. Not to run straight into the PS like most idiots with air do, and not to play close to the land unless you have float dash and 40 fly (Which, if you do, use it to dodge missiles. They will not track correctly if you use float dash to takeoff and stay near the ground. It also works great for kiting vanguards, as most vanguards will try to chase you down but 40 fly>40 wlk in terms of speed.)

BNOISE wrote:

xzpwnz wrote:

Any type of air is capable of killing a vanguard unless you're a lady

not small air like beezle - too little hp and you generally won't be flying that high so vanguard WILL hit you
same for basic crim and a lot of other bots

course when you finally tune them to 40 fly it's all good

maybe i should be more clear - any air that has 40 fly

Never play airs ever again. Ever.

Kobrakai wrote:

That's why you need to watch your radar for those fast moving circles, and get to higher ground. As an AIR, it's pretty much your responsibility to take care of any rushing LND bots, and distract/kite enemy territory so your team can rush in while they're off-guard. Not to run straight into the PS like most idiots with air do, and not to play close to the land unless you have float dash and 40 fly (Which, if you do, use it to dodge missiles. They will not track correctly if you use float dash to takeoff and stay near the ground. It also works great for kiting vanguards, as most vanguards will try to chase you down but 40 fly>40 wlk in terms of speed.)

for reals?
i just rush in with seraph or izuna or bgale and rape the ps...

imab like yesh it not my fault if i don't protect you big fat arts

it every man for himself, more frags you get more awesome you are

don't need float dash for them, they got like bgale booster and stuff to get you to max height fast

no

just no

Midreus wrote:

no

just no

man that sux
except it works really well for epoch, arcantus, and the one with the tree room in the middle where it is all just straight up fighting

rush to where the most red is and shoot them to death

that is my strategy for playing air