to clear things up when OB ends

Possibly.
And Foxie tends to just go for....
Howitzers, Missile box, Core weapons, Burner, Broadsword, arm weapons, and sniper rifles.....Maybe a shield..
All on one bot of course.
(Hence artillery..bot for my main, I have so many weapons my little flier probably wouldnt be able to move with them all. :c)
I dont get why you wouldnt use a specialty weapon...
You get a damage boost from it, Your better with it stat wise, And if your playing your role right your going to be getting damage boosts for hitting enemies weak to you.
Foxie noticed Artillery with explosive weapons against air has the biggest damage boost..
Which is fun.

Biggest damage boost... not really. Look at the tough stat for each type (and other stats too). Also, look at the cartridge selection. It's the basic configuration... which you can attempt to subvert, just really hard and such.... well for air melee that is, land has it easy...(no seriously).

Air has the lowest Tough stat.... and Arts have high tech stat.... think about it for a moment.... Plus, air can't get explosive reduction.

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My logic = Kill it with missiles.

lol. ugh i hate missiles. imo it kinda ruins the game slightly but it definatly has a place in some scenerio's i guess.
personally i just put grenades on my crims and i fly high dropping them on ppl.
i really haven't found much use of crims. especially when i'm playing againts ppl who are missile arts.

but i suppose it also has very much to do with the ppl you play with aswell. I've noticed that Wiz also has the largest amount of dim wits.

Crim's are like.. that crappy unit that you nver wanna use, then later, it becomes the God-weapon known as Seraph Crimrose, and you cant understand what ever made you not want to pilot it.

VoidDragoon wrote:

Crim's are like.. that crappy unit that you nver wanna use, then later, it becomes the God-weapon known as Seraph Crimrose, and you cant understand what ever made you not want to pilot it.

Crappy because its more strategic/tactical than Lily....and most of the other ones.... and can't live without that role. Aside from the absurded missile/bazooka spammage.... And... how do you turn it into that >_>

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It's something to do with having the largest player population. Many many many people think action > tactics... and fail pretty badly. There are some tactics/strategy that make use of skilled allies just going all out like normal. But most of the time people don't recognize them at all, period, or can't tell the difference.... (even if it is a-bloody-flanking-maneuver!!!!)

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*Sees Weis* OHHHHHHHhhh Free kill!!!!! (Wait, which faction are you again?)

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A-ahem... anyways..... What appears to be a sound action at first... can seem epic fail tactically/strategically, whereas the opposite is true more often than not.... In other words..., most people think their single-minded non-co-op methods > tactics/co-op/team strategy.... Someone explain how THAT makes any sense.

P.S. It is possible to take out skilled players through good co-op... Though you need to make sure the whole enemy team isn't that great outside of a few skilled players, or you're screwed anyways (if you don't have equal number of good or better players)... the latter seems more common than the former *bangs head*

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@ Foxie

*Uses your ally as a shield while meleeing him to death*

Rofl, and rein, you use an item at level 8,9, or 10 according to the JP wiki and poof. seraph xD. it has like way more hp, and double the cost of a starter crimrose.. kinda ebil

VoidDragoon wrote:

Rofl, and rein, you use an item at level 8,9, or 10 according to the JP wiki and poof. seraph xD. it has like way more hp, and double the cost of a starter crimrose.. kinda ebil

What item~ <-wants accurate english name for it.... x_x.

My Crim is level 8 atm too....

Rein wrote:

*Sees Weis* OHHHHHHHhhh Free kill!!!!! (Wait, which faction are you again?)

Wiz
and i hardly use crim unless i feel like just pelting bird doo doo at ppl for being annoying.
i do know how to use her and i've come on top of rankings a few times because of being an annoyance to ppl.
it's just ..... boring. and when the missiles come well. that's when i stop using her.

dodging 1-3 missiles i can deal with.
dodging a whole armada of M arts with missiles that's above my tolerance.

Weis wrote:

Rein wrote:

*Sees Weis* OHHHHHHHhhh Free kill!!!!! (Wait, which faction are you again?)

Wiz
and i hardly use crim unless i feel like just pelting bird doo doo at ppl for being annoying.
i do know how to use her and i've come on top of rankings a few times because of being an annoyance to ppl.
it's just ..... boring. and when the missiles come well. that's when i stop using her.

dodging 1-3 missiles i can deal with.
dodging a whole armada of M arts with missiles that's above my tolerance.

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If you know how to use her the army of arts shouldnt be firing missiles at you in the first place.
As for being an annoyance, I have seen crims charge the front lines and rip enemies to shreds. >>
I remember getting three frags in a short period of time against large bots with mine.

Foxie wrote:

Weis wrote:

Rein wrote:

*Sees Weis* OHHHHHHHhhh Free kill!!!!! (Wait, which faction are you again?)

Wiz
and i hardly use crim unless i feel like just pelting bird doo doo at ppl for being annoying.
i do know how to use her and i've come on top of rankings a few times because of being an annoyance to ppl.
it's just ..... boring. and when the missiles come well. that's when i stop using her.

dodging 1-3 missiles i can deal with.
dodging a whole armada of M arts with missiles that's above my tolerance.

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If you know how to use her the army of arts shouldnt be firing missiles at you in the first place.
As for being an annoyance, I have seen crims charge the front lines and rip enemies to shreds. >>
I remember getting three frags in a short period of time against large bots with mine.

Oh how wrong you are on the shouldn't part. And I do recall doing the same with my crim before. I just nearly NEVER get fire support.... Oh and I NEVER see other Crims attempting melee-a-ton. Or in other words, nearly no pure-melee Crims....

Speaking of which, I won a 2v1 with my Crim before.... with a summon item handy. Distracted 2nd opponent long enough for me to start smacking him....

i dunno, having an meele wep can come handy sometimes if you catch up an lonely toybox ( tend to happen in these really big stages ) but yeah, an shield is kinda better, i noticed that an way to prevent having negative score is just making damage and not get killed ( nor kill others ) or being suportive, ( i abuse alot crim flying capacities to drop barrier shields or fire pillars from air )

Sayuri Chan wrote:

i dunno, having an meele wep can come handy sometimes if you catch up an lonely toybox ( tend to happen in these really big stages ) but yeah, an shield is kinda better, i noticed that an way to prevent having negative score is just making damage and not get killed ( nor kill others ) or being suportive, ( i abuse alot crim flying capacities to drop barrier shields or fire pillars from air )

For the best of both worlds, replace your arms with Acebraver AMs, as they allow you to punch, even if that arm's currently holding a weapon. So you can have a gun, a shield(or if you're crazy, 2 shields) and still be able to melee.

NovaZero wrote:

Sayuri Chan wrote:

i dunno, having an meele wep can come handy sometimes if you catch up an lonely toybox ( tend to happen in these really big stages ) but yeah, an shield is kinda better, i noticed that an way to prevent having negative score is just making damage and not get killed ( nor kill others ) or being suportive, ( i abuse alot crim flying capacities to drop barrier shields or fire pillars from air )

For the best of both worlds, replace your arms with Acebraver AMs, as they allow you to punch, even if that arm's currently holding a weapon. So you can have a gun, a shield(or if you're crazy, 2 shields) and still be able to melee.

I/You would STILL need to get the part first... and you can't buy it in market or get from garapon....

Rein wrote:

I/You would STILL need to get the part first... and you can't buy it in market or get from garapon....

Sadly, yes, that is true. Acebraver AMs(heck, probably even the Acebraver BD) are rewards/drops in Quest mode, and are not as easy to get as you think.

NovaZero wrote:

Rein wrote:

I/You would STILL need to get the part first... and you can't buy it in market or get from garapon....

Sadly, yes, that is true. Acebraver AMs(heck, probably even the Acebraver BD) are rewards/drops in Quest mode, and are not as easy to get as you think.

From the top of my head I know I have 2 Acebraver BS.... which are VERY useful and have good stats which work for all types.... Which I got from Union Wars. So that's an option too.

i have like 4 arms of these ironically O_o, ( dunno why, they drop alot, heck, im seeking the maid/elm parts >_< )

oh well lucky is odd with me o.o

*eve read the Thread Title

*eve read the last 2 pages



i'll still read the thread though :-"

Sayuri Chan wrote:

i have like 4 arms of these ironically O_o, ( dunno why, they drop alot, heck, im seeking the maid/elm parts >_< )

oh well lucky is odd with me o.o

Is that like how I got 4 Jikun Hu and 2 Jikun Hu Yi from the garapon? Or my 3 Slash Blades and Photon Swords?

Rein wrote:

Sayuri Chan wrote:

i have like 4 arms of these ironically O_o, ( dunno why, they drop alot, heck, im seeking the maid/elm parts >_< )

oh well lucky is odd with me o.o

Is that like how I got 4 Jikun Hu and 2 Jikun Hu Yi from the garapon? Or my 3 Slash Blades and Photon Swords?

kind off, i get stuff that i dont see usefull, yet it is O-o

Rein wrote:

Foxie wrote:

Weis wrote:

Rein wrote:

*Sees Weis* OHHHHHHHhhh Free kill!!!!! (Wait, which faction are you again?)

Wiz
and i hardly use crim unless i feel like just pelting bird doo doo at ppl for being annoying.
i do know how to use her and i've come on top of rankings a few times because of being an annoyance to ppl.
it's just ..... boring. and when the missiles come well. that's when i stop using her.

dodging 1-3 missiles i can deal with.
dodging a whole armada of M arts with missiles that's above my tolerance.

>>
If you know how to use her the army of arts shouldnt be firing missiles at you in the first place.
As for being an annoyance, I have seen crims charge the front lines and rip enemies to shreds. >>
I remember getting three frags in a short period of time against large bots with mine.

Oh how wrong you are on the shouldn't part. And I do recall doing the same with my crim before. I just nearly NEVER get fire support.... Oh and I NEVER see other Crims attempting melee-a-ton. Or in other words, nearly no pure-melee Crims....

Speaking of which, I won a 2v1 with my Crim before.... with a summon item handy. Distracted 2nd opponent long enough for me to start smacking him....

Thats called you having skill.
Not Foxie is wrong.
Average player cant do that. <<
Now be nice to them and stop making them feel bad. D:<

actually. you are kinda making me feel bad.
but then i was never the type to play an air class. which is why i suck with crims and i won't deny it.
i prefer land/arts myself.

something about being in the air is fine and dandy but i dislike the whole get hit with a stunning effect just once and your a sitting duck.

they need like a fat chick and turn her into a bomber or something. that be interesting. and it definatly wouldn't look loli anymore either ^^

Weis wrote:

actually. you are kinda making me feel bad.
but then i was never the type to play an air class. which is why i suck with crims and i won't deny it.
i prefer land/arts myself.

something about being in the air is fine and dandy but i dislike the whole get hit with a stunning effect just once and your a sitting duck.

they need like a fat chick and turn her into a bomber or something. that be interesting. and it definatly wouldn't look loli anymore either ^^

Or you can use the big air types. o3o
Its okay though, I have seen all types kick ass.
Crim is just the favorite of a few of us here. o3o
A hound dog user, Or toy box or whatever can be just as deadly. :3

Foxie wrote:

Weis wrote:

actually. you are kinda making me feel bad.
but then i was never the type to play an air class. which is why i suck with crims and i won't deny it.
i prefer land/arts myself.

something about being in the air is fine and dandy but i dislike the whole get hit with a stunning effect just once and your a sitting duck.

they need like a fat chick and turn her into a bomber or something. that be interesting. and it definatly wouldn't look loli anymore either ^^

Or you can use the big air types. o3o
Its okay though, I have seen all types kick ass.
Crim is just the favorite of a few of us here. o3o
A hound dog user, Or toy box or whatever can be just as deadly. :3

lol.
i'm actually a hound dog user. i dislike jikun hu but i do moderatly fine with him.
hound dog is equiped with rocket and spear. made to take out air of any size then i just rush for the kill.
aquila's take alot more punishment than most S and M type.
Laz Flamme is one of my favorites too just because she's a mix of air and land. although shield and lance as nice as they are can't save me from all the electron/pulse gun users. rockets are no big whoop because i can get in and out in time with her.

as for Art types so far i only really like Lily toybox is too big and clunky for me.
and definatly by far i'm starting to like the support bots.
they need more support style bots in game and not just winberrl. i heard the new garapon introduces a new support that slows time down.
i'm assuming it works just like the snailgun where instead of leaving a puddle of ooze it just leaves some sort of marking in the area to whoever touches it gets slowed.

There is more last I checked since as previously states this is only a small fraction of the bots.
Laz I must agree on though, she was my first land and definitely a favorite. <3