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Meet ze puncake Newbie
Posts : 38 Join date : 2014-06-24
| Subject: lily rain EVE Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:08 am | |
| Of course i couldn't resist buying her with the DX coin, and i wanted to know if this build is reasonable. - Spoiler:
[Robot Name] Lily Rain EVE
[Parts] BD: Lily Rain EVE BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Lily Rain EVE LG [High Capacity] [Eagle] [Eagle] HD: Lily Rain EVE HD [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] HDAC: Nightcap [High Tech Alpha] FCAC: +1 tec +5 capa [High Tech Alpha] BS: Lily Rain EVE BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM [Great Range Alpha] [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Supply] WP: Flowering Gun [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM2 [Eagle] [Eagle] [Eagle] WP: Heart Balloon Y [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1385 CAPA: 1385 HP: 575 STR: -7 TEC: 40 WLK: 6 FLY: 38 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +60×6 Enhance Internal Weapon Float Dash Quick Boost Quick Land
[Material] Fudara Cosmos×14 Midoro Cosmos×15 Yoguru Cosmos×5 Threede Cosmos×3 Red Chip×110 Yellow Chip×30 Green Chip×20 Black Chip×20 Rainbow Chip×20 Power Amp×400 Stabilizer×72 Engine Shaft×400 Turbo Charger×135 Scope Lens×9 Rapid Crystal×17 Drum Magazine×31 Guide Circuit×56 Heat Ash×15 Prism Glass×215 Acid Gel×30 Screw Bolts×100 Steel Wheel×160 Miracle Ammonite×40 Shining Feather×40 Generic Element×108 Superior Element×27 Tech Element×60 Boost Element×30
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Altheos Newbie
Posts : 37 Join date : 2012-07-11
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:13 am | |
| Capacity Tunes in General are a bad choice. EVE Cannon has almost no risk of running out in a typical Union War even if you don't die the entire round with 98 ammo. But then again, then again i'm not exactly a good player, so I'll just point those two out. | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:34 am | |
| Mmmh....have the supply tunes been there before..? Build looked ok, at first...
But yeah, don't do capa for supply/hp. Maybe you should go for force instead? i don't remember her default range/speed. Mine is 400/500 I believe, but I approached her as a camper, rather than a gank-up type of bot and I suck ass with her (unless there's a bunch of retard melees who don't know how short their tracking range is, but nobody uses such builds anymore). | |
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Lucifina Newbie
Posts : 79 Join date : 2015-01-20
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:25 am | |
| My setup in JP is two Grapids and 1 Gforce easier to hit. | |
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AzureRathalos Regular Poster
Posts : 187 Join date : 2011-01-13
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:51 pm | |
| Things I'd suggest:
- Put two G Rapid Beta on the main gun. The extra projectile speed will help ensure that your shots will count. - For the third slot on the main gun, it tends to go with player preference. --- Some put a third G Rapid to help ensure that the shots connect. --- Some put in a G Range to get a bit more reach for the weapon. --- Some put in a Force tune (+10 Cost for +2 Force, +20 for +3, +30 for +4.) picking whatever fits their cost space. --- Some people put in a combo like High Shooter. - Get the Stun Supply (or if you're lucky, Stun Supply+) core tune to deal with ammo issues. - You don't need Quick Boost. Unless you have moved out way too far on your own, you won't be Float Dashing around until you run out of boost. - Though can allow easier consecutive Float Dashes, Quick Land isn't a mandatory pick. - A second EIW cart is definitely something to consider. It will provide enough Charge Plus to last almost a whole round. Of course, if you expect to die (or do die) often, don't take it. - Some people don't use it because it has a lot of cost attached to it, but I would recommend Broad Radar. Being warned of an enemy coming can often save you more HP than any tune can give. - As others have mentioned, drop the Capacity tune. Adjust the tuning plan to get her to 40/38 without the need for extra cost, then see how much extra space you have after for some increased HP. - You could potentially drop the Fly stat to 34 to free up some cost space. That breakpoint is decent enough to get around with.
Last edited by AzureRathalos on Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:41 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Adding more info.) | |
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Poppet Abbey Cry
Posts : 284 Join date : 2011-10-27 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:53 pm | |
| >Using eagles when you're using high tech alpha tunes
Use rangers instead. Pure tec>tec/capacity>tec/fly hat and acc, with tune slots preferably. Drop capacity. Quick Boost for Broad Radar. Aim for 31 fly at most. Weapon should be full great rapid beta or 2x with 1 basic force. +1 tec 10 cost weapons. Everything else looks okay enough.
So 40 tec/31 fly. Weapon Tunes. Cartridges. Whatever is left over after that is hp in the form of basic tec = rangers instead. | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:12 pm | |
| >Quick Boost for Broad Radar Eh...is Quick Land that important with Float Dash..? | |
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AzureRathalos Regular Poster
Posts : 187 Join date : 2011-01-13
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:34 pm | |
| - Zwiebel Force wrote:
- Eh...is Quick Land that important with Float Dash..?
Quick Land is less useless than Quick Boost, but it's certainly not mandatory either. I should go address that in my earlier reply. | |
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Altheos Newbie
Posts : 37 Join date : 2012-07-11
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:08 am | |
| - My personal Build for Lily Rain Eve:
[Robot Name] Lily Rain EVE
[Parts] BD: Lily Rain EVE BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Lily Rain EVE LG [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Alpha] HD: Lily Rain EVE HD [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] HDAC: Eve Ornament FCAC: Ace of Hearts Earrings BS: Lily Rain EVE BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Range Alpha] [Great Rapid Beta] WP: Chocolate Banana [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] WP: Buckler [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1300 CAPA: 1300 HP: 400 STR: -11 TEC: 40 WLK: 2 FLY: 38 TGH: 8
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +60×6 Enhance Internal Weapon Float Dash Quick Boost Broad Radar
[Material] Fudara Cosmos×18 Threede Cosmos×3 Red Chip×110 Yellow Chip×50 Green Chip×60 Black Chip×20 Stabilizer×56 Turbo Charger×50 Scope Lens×9 Rapid Crystal×34 Drum Magazine×30 Guide Circuit×40 Heat Ash×30 Acid Gel×15
Edit: I'm tempted to get Moving Burst, and utilize the Boost Drive for mobility - Eco Boost, Augmented Thrusters, Fall Charge, Stun Recovery | |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:32 am | |
| She can alpha strike just fine without moving burst. I remember doing it back in 2011 very successfully but then again my mindset on Lily Rain EVE is stuck in pre-initium and I never used her after Resha and Eris appeared on the scene. | |
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Altheos Newbie
Posts : 37 Join date : 2012-07-11
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:47 am | |
| Ah, well I can cart reset I guess. i already tuned it up. Pity I can't afford quick land with that tune setup. It was pretty tight after all. I could replace the buckler/coffin shield with a pom pom but eeeeh. Also hi Astral. Althy here. | |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:41 pm | |
| I meant to post this before I went to work but this is how I built mine (Without the EX tunes but meh) - Spoiler:
[Robot Name] Lily Rain EVE
[Parts] BD: Lily Rain EVE BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Lily Rain EVE LG [EX Tough] HD: Lily Rain EVE HD [EX High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] HDAC: +1 tec +1 fly [EX High Tech Alpha] FCAC: +1 tec +1 fly [EX High Tech Alpha] BS: Lily Rain EVE BS [Force] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM [Great Force Beta] [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Range Alpha] WP: Cosmic Cola [EX High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM2 [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] WP: Buckler [EX High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1300 CAPA: 1300 HP: 485 STR: -9 TEC: 40 WLK: 4 FLY: 38 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +60×6 Beam Guard Blast Guard Float Dash Quick Boost
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Altheos Newbie
Posts : 37 Join date : 2012-07-11
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:11 pm | |
| How the hell did you get slotted dual stat accessories? | |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:18 pm | |
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Poppet Abbey Cry
Posts : 284 Join date : 2011-10-27 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:47 pm | |
| Pretty sure the uc garapons has some 1 stat 5 capacity slotted or something.
Slotted dual 1/1 good combo stats for extortion level uc at bazaar.
Pure 2 stat are rare acc from material exchange cubes you can find the above in them too.
Slotted 2 stat are like garapon and you find any stat combo there. | |
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Altheos Newbie
Posts : 37 Join date : 2012-07-11
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:08 am | |
| I managed to max out stats without using anything that a normal UC player can't get access to. So a poverty build is possible, though You'll be using those promotional tune success items, e.g. Election Coins and Payrockets + a shitton of Omegas.
The Three slotted coffin shield was an arena drop for example. | |
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Argento Regular Poster
Posts : 285 Join date : 2015-10-24
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:37 pm | |
| This is a good build? I read in other post (a mialy build post) that float dash isnt good for railgun weapons, that is better short boost with 36 or 38 Fly. Thinking that i make this build. - Lily Eve Short boost:
[Robot Name] Lily Rain EVE
[Parts] BD: Lily Rain EVE BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Lily Rain EVE LG HD: Lily Rain EVE HD [EX High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] HDAC: +1 tec +1 fly [EX High Tech Alpha] FCAC: +1 tec +1 fly [EX High Tech Alpha] BS: Lily Rain EVE BS [EX High Tech Alpha] [Ranger] [Ranger] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Range Alpha] WP: Chocolate Banana [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] WP: Riot Shield [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1300 CAPA: 1300 HP: 530 STR: -7 TEC: 40 WLK: 5 FLY: 36 TGH: 8
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +60×6 Enhance Internal Weapon Beam Guard Blast Guard Short Boost
Last edited by Argento on Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:42 am; edited 1 time in total | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:28 pm | |
| why would you have 36 fly | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:08 pm | |
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Argento Regular Poster
Posts : 285 Join date : 2015-10-24
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:32 pm | |
| - Winty wrote:
- why would you have 36 fly
if you read u will see that the answer is in what i wrote before posting the build. If i get a wrong info Just say it so i can fix the build. I did this build using what i read in other posts, i cant say if the other posts are right or wrong. - Zwiebel Force wrote:
- It's not a railgun.
I always think it was. | |
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Sakura1 Crab
Posts : 5579 Join date : 2013-06-25 Location : Bad Cake I hope u choke on watermelons
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:00 am | |
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UncleBobbie Ace Poster
Posts : 1342 Join date : 2011-03-02 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:08 am | |
| I find it's easier to aim with short boost on her whether you wanna call it a railgun or not. Probably going with something like these - Spoiler:
[Robot Name] Eve
[Parts] BD: Lily Rain EVE BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Lily Rain EVE LG [Great Capacity] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] HD: Lily Rain EVE HD [EX High Tech Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] HDAC: Magical Hat [EX High Tech Beta] FCAC: Ace of Hearts Earrings [EX High Tech Beta] BS: Lily Rain EVE BS [EX High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Force Beta] [High Rapid Beta] WP: Yo-yo Balloon [EX High Tech Beta] [EX High Tech Beta] [EX High Tech Beta] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM2 [Tech] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] WP: Yo-yo Balloon [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1345 CAPA: 1350 HP: 490 STR: -11 TEC: 40 WLK: 1 FLY: 38 TGH: 6
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +60×5 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Short Boost Quick Boost Quick Land Accele Roll
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×1 Fudara Cosmos×18 Midoro Cosmos×40 Yoguru Cosmos×20 Twode Cosmos×1 Threede Cosmos×2 Red Chip×95 Blue Chip×20 Yellow Chip×55 Green Chip×60 Rainbow Chip×40 Power Amp×600 Stabilizer×44 Engine Shaft×600 Turbo Charger×55 Strike Metal×9 Rapid Crystal×626 Drum Magazine×33 Guide Circuit×25 Heat Ash×15 Acid Gel×15 Hulk Meteorite×200 Screw Bolts×300 Steel Wheel×300 Miracle Ammonite×100 Shining Feather×100 Generic Element×120 Superior Element×30 Tech Element×70 Boost Element×30
- Spoiler:
[Robot Name] Eve
[Parts] BD: Lily Rain EVE BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Lily Rain EVE LG [Life] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] HD: Lily Rain EVE HD [EX High Tech Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] HDAC: Magical Hat [EX High Tech Beta] FCAC: Ace of Hearts Earrings [EX High Tech Beta] BS: Lily Rain EVE BS [EX High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Force Beta] [Great Rapid Beta] WP: Yo-yo Balloon [EX High Tech Beta] [EX High Tech Beta] [EX High Tech Beta] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM2 [Tech] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] WP: Yo-yo Balloon [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1300 CAPA: 1300 HP: 515 STR: -11 TEC: 40 WLK: 1 FLY: 38 TGH: 8
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +60×6 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Short Boost Quick Boost Accele Roll
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×1 Fudara Cosmos×19 Threede Cosmos×3 Red Chip×95 Blue Chip×20 Yellow Chip×55 Green Chip×70 Stabilizer×44 Turbo Charger×55 Physical Stone×5 Strike Metal×9 Rapid Crystal×34 Drum Magazine×33 Guide Circuit×25 Heat Ash×30 Acid Gel×15 Screw Bolts×5 Generic Element×120 Superior Element×30 Tech Element×70 Boost Element×30
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Altheos Newbie
Posts : 37 Join date : 2012-07-11
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:12 am | |
| I use a moving burst float dash eve. If you're having accuracy problems, get more Great Rapid Betas. Ammo is not a problem for EVE if every hit counts. I use moving burst because I like shooting off 2 level 3 charged shots while not being stuck in one place like a moron. | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:34 am | |
| - Argento wrote:
- Winty wrote:
- why would you have 36 fly
if you read u will see that the answer is in what i wrote before posting the build. If i get a wrong info Just say it so i can fix the build. I did this build using what i read in other posts, i cant say if the other posts are right or wrong. what you wrote is "other post said this is better." I want to know either which post it was, or why it is better. I want to know why you want that amount of fly. | |
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AzureRathalos Regular Poster
Posts : 187 Join date : 2011-01-13
| Subject: Re: lily rain EVE Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:00 pm | |
| - Argento wrote:
- This is a good build?
I read in other post (a mialy build post) that float dash isnt good for railgun weapons, that is better short boost with 36 or 38 Fly. Thinking that i make this build.
- Lily Eve Short boost:
[Robot Name] Lily Rain EVE
[Parts] BD: Lily Rain EVE BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) LG: Lily Rain EVE LG HD: Lily Rain EVE HD [EX High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] [Life] HDAC: +1 tec +1 fly [EX High Tech Alpha] FCAC: +1 tec +1 fly [EX High Tech Alpha] BS: Lily Rain EVE BS [Force] [EX High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM [Great Rapid Beta] [Great Range Alpha] [Great Range Alpha] WP: Chocolate Banana [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] AM: Lily Rain EVE AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] WP: Riot Shield [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 砲 SIZE: S COST: 1300 CAPA: 1300 HP: 515 STR: -8 TEC: 40 WLK: 5 FLY: 36 TGH: 8
On top of the standing "why would you have 36 fly", I would like to ask: Why don't you have your cartridge selections shown? | |
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