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PostSubject: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyTue Dec 25, 2012 10:23 am

Ok. How do i use her? i know i need fly and tec for tunes but other than that idk. What playstyle should i adopt to use her well with?
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyTue Dec 25, 2012 6:10 pm

Equip your favorite bazooka + custom dash = done.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyTue Dec 25, 2012 6:18 pm

Pretty much what Zweibel summed up. Play her like a normal Lily. 2x Handy Baz should suffice.

There aren't many other choices weapon wise for S-Art, so it's limiting on Lily both weapon and playstyle wise.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 1:46 pm

HD lily? Accele Roll.
Do not take Float Dash, Short Boost, or any other movement cart. Float Dash is only good for skirmisher type bot such as Xmas Rouche or Monica Gold. Short Boost? Also the same reason. Lily Rain shine for her internal psygun, it might underpowered when fired alone, but with alpha, you'll astonished with the result.

I used Blow Bazooka instead Handy, but might not worth the cost. Handy Zook is good enough, if you use Alpha strike. My play style is Accele Roll, Alpha for 1-2 shots, Accele Roll, and so on. I managed to duel against Ouka this way, with 18 Fly...
Against some ART bots such as Sturbanger, find a way to close to it, then alpha. You may use that Accele Roll to close in quickly. You wont lose alpha-ing Sturbanger at close range, since its missile will be useless.
Against AIR units, also the same, Alpha strike. Please notice how your psygun bullets changes its movement to correct your aim. You don't need to aim correctly at certain spot, just aim at the line which might be crossed by your target and keep shooting until emptied a clip. You can aim blitz fast targets such as Jikun Long with this way.

She can use railgun, but... i don't recommend something that is not good for alpha strike. Since we're talking about Lily Rain HD.

And...my Lily is not tuned yet, so i can't recommend anything about it.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 2:18 pm

Zwelivelle wrote:
Do not take Float Dash, Short Boost, or any other movement cart.
Um, wow, no, definitely take float dash or short boost. I'd in fact heavily recommend short boost since she has quick jump as well.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 2:27 pm

I'd also like to point out that you can Alpha with Short Boost or Float Dash without the need of Moving Burst, all while maintaining a very nice movement speed.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 7:47 pm

I love float dashing Lily. Combined with Accel Roll, it's a good escape/evasive combination. :v

Just sharing.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 7:56 pm

Hmm... I doing this right? Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 11:56 pm

Here are my two cents on this topic:

Spoiler:
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 11:56 am

Hmm, i just don't like how float dash messing with my targetting. Or making me overshoot too forward to front line. But anyway, idk if we can alpha while float, pressing both mouse button right after "floating" ?
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 12:00 pm

Zwelivelle wrote:
Hmm, i just don't like how float dash messing with my targetting. Or making me overshoot too forward to front line. But anyway, idk if we can alpha while float, pressing both mouse button right after "floating" ?
It's kind of hard to explain, but I do this with my Lily Rain EVE all the time.

Basically, when you're standing still, run in the direction you want to float dash. After you start running, alpha strike within 1 second. You will float dash while shooting all of your weapons, and the float dash lasts longer than moving burst does. Getting the Moving Burst cart will make this process harder, because you'll have to alpha strike, then run, and THEN you float dash, requiring one extra step which sometimes bowls you over in tight situations.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 12:15 pm

Thanks, i'll try that. My current Lily has float dash, after resetting her previous Accele roll in which i regret that later. But with Float and Accele, doesn't making the dash process difficult?
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 12:19 pm

Not really. I usually do float dash + accel roll to dodge.

But yeah, pay more attention to your boost gauge, and time your dash well. :v
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 12:32 pm

Tab to initiate float dash action, hold spacebar and tab again to use accele roll.

Might as well mention CBeu's starter HD Lily w/ Float Dash and Lv. 4 Moving Burst.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 12:34 pm

Zwiebel Force wrote:
Tab to initiate float dash action, hold spacebar and tab again to use accele roll.

Might as well mention CBeu's starter HD Lily w/ Float Dash and Lv. 4 Moving Burst.

So open the map, jump, open the map again to use accele roll? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 12:36 pm

He meant tap, not tab.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 12:43 pm

How do you think with Blow Zook instead Handy ? Since i've not tuning my lily yet, i still can mount two of of it. I have 6 Blow Zook MOD and only 1 Blow Zook anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 12:52 pm

Handy Baz due to cheaper cost, UC availability, near identical weapon stats to Blow Baz.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 12:57 pm

iKray wrote:
Handy Baz due to cheaper cost, UC availability, near identical weapon stats to Blow Baz.

As I tought, the cost difference is too high. I asked because i would miss that 500 INT, contributing to my accuracy and DPS.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyThu Jan 03, 2013 3:28 pm

If you go with Dual Handy Baz I'd probably do something like this

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More or less probably one of the more easily available high-mobility arts, with Accel/Shortboost/Quick Jump/Quick Boost.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyFri Jan 04, 2013 12:31 pm

Whoa, so many movement carts. Isn't it difficult to handle? I would really see someone who can handle this kind of movement. And with that no damage reduction, low HP and "standard" TGH it would be fatal if you struck by something.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyFri Jan 04, 2013 12:57 pm

The only actual movement carts are Short Boost and Accele Roll... Quick Jump and Quick Boost are passive.

400HP is "acceptable". It's not the best, but as an ART, you shouldn't be placing yourself directy into enemy fire like a LND. You should also be fast enough to move away from threats before they get to you.
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyFri Jan 04, 2013 8:44 pm

Moving Burst?
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptyFri Jan 04, 2013 9:26 pm

You're going to be alpha striking regardless of MB or not, so I don't really feel the need to add it onto active. (Technically it is a passive cart, but call it active if you want.)
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PostSubject: Re: HD Lily Rain.    HD Lily Rain.  EmptySat Jan 05, 2013 1:04 am

Didn't you say that you don't need that if you have float dash or short boost? But i tought the other one, boost run. My miss.
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