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CARNAXHACKER Newcomer
Posts : 5 Join date : 2011-11-13
| Subject: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:11 am | |
| I'm not sure about these builds but - Spoiler:
Name: Atlas Type: Artillery Level: 6 BD: Sagittary Maxis BD3 LG: Sagittary Maxis LG (3 Great Capa Tunes) HD: Sagittary Maxis HD2 AM: Asura AMJ x 2, Victorl AM x 4 BS: Sagittary Maxis BS Cartridges: Capacity x 6 Cost: OK
The Railguns have a long reach so it won't be a big problem charging up. The Victorl AMs could be lethal under a PS or in Hyper Shot. It's an upgraded version of Boy_Lugao's Saggi III. - Spoiler:
Name: Galleon Level: 7 Type: Artillery BD: Sturbanger BD LG: Snailbot LG (3 Great Capa Tunes) HD: Mach Knight HD2 AM: Asura AMJ x 2, Sturbanger AM x 2, Greinaut AM x 2 BS: Maril March BS Weapons: Handy Bazooka x 4 Cartridges: Boost Run, Capacity x 5, Moving Burst Cost: OK
This Alpha is kind of NOT recommended cause of the wasted Capa tunes... But the Greinaut AMs kind of boost the Straightforward attacks. I think my need for Capa tunes is weird. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:13 am | |
| I guess with BoyTitan not playing CB anymore someone else in DOS had to step up to the plate as fat art king. | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:28 am | |
| what the fuck am I looking at - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Sagittary Maxis
【Parts】 BD: Sagittary Maxis BD3 : Rifle Bit(default) : Sagittary Maxis LG [Great Capacity] [Great Capacity] [Great Capacity] : Sagittary Maxis HD2 : - : - : Sagittary Maxis BS : Asura AMJ : Victorl AM : Victorl AM : Asura AMJ : Victorl AM : Victorl AM
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: L COST: 1530 CAPA: 1600 HP: 504 STR: 1 TEC: 27 WLK: 15 FLY: 18 TGH: 5
LEVEL: 6
【Cartridges】 Capacity +60×6
【必要素材】 Midoro Cosmos×120 Yoguru Cosmos×60 Rainbow Chip×120 Power Amp×1800 Engine Shaft×1800 Rapid Crystal×1800 Hulk Meteorite×600 Screw Bolts×900 Steel Wheel×900 Miracle Ammonite×300 Shining Feather×300
Are you kidding me? 5 tgh? no internals? horrible stats? horrible damage output? You're just asking to get nova'd to your doom - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Sagittary Maxis
【Parts】 BD: Sturbanger BD : Missile Bit(default) : Snailbot LG [Great Capacity] [Great Capacity] [Great Capacity] : Mach Knight HD2 : - : - : Maril March BS : Asura AMJ : Sturbanger AM : Handy Bazooka : Greinaut AM : Handy Bazooka : Asura AMJ : Sturbanger AM : Handy Bazooka : Greinaut AM : Handy Bazooka
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: L COST: 1545 CAPA: 1550 HP: 455 STR: 3 TEC: 29 WLK: -1 FLY: 3 TGH: 20
LEVEL: 8
【Cartridges】 Capacity +50×6 Boost Run Moving Burst
【必要素材】 Midoro Cosmos×120 Yoguru Cosmos×60 Rainbow Chip×120 Power Amp×1800 Engine Shaft×1800 Rapid Crystal×1800 Hulk Meteorite×600 Screw Bolts×900 Steel Wheel×900 Miracle Ammonite×300 Shining Feather×300
I don't even know what to say about this. Boost Run, -1 wlk? seriously? Horrible weapon setup? I am confused as to how you were not sure that these builds were absolute garbage. | |
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Kiraneko Newbie
Posts : 95 Join date : 2011-08-19 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:56 am | |
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Relict? [Moderator]
Posts : 5786 Join date : 2011-02-08 Age : 31 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:01 am | |
| He's probably new. Don't go overboard ): Well, OP, the most important thing is to tune mobility. If you have enough WLK/FLY, you can (try to) dodge hits and thus survive longer and consequently do more damage. Of course, there's exceptions to this (Hatigarm Machine, yo) but we're dealing with ARTs here. 31+ fly w/ Accel Roll or high tier Boost Run or bust. - Personally, I think Saggy III is not supposed to alpha. >This topic< contains some nice builds. Some tuning required.
- Sturbanger....he's not worth the effort.
- If you really, really want an alpha art, Amateus is the way to go.
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Blizt Regular Poster
Posts : 119 Join date : 2011-04-17 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:47 am | |
| There are so many things wrong with your build that I just don't know where to begin...
Well, here are a few tips:
1) don't bother with tuning right now (seeing how new and confused you are now, doing that can only lead to bad result and waste of UC/RT) 2) for most ART, mobility is always the priority than damage, so at least try get around 20-30 WLK/FLY before trying to get more TEC 3) having more guns is not always better, and using weapon that needs to charge for alpha bot is often not that good of an idea 4) 80% of the time, you do not need capa tune at all (if you do, that means your part/cart selection is bad) 5) if you need capa tune before even tuning anything, YOU'RE DOING IT VERY WRONG
Go look up some threads in the Guide section, or look at how other ppl build ART, those would definitely help you... | |
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CARNAXHACKER Newcomer
Posts : 5 Join date : 2011-11-13
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:20 am | |
| I'm a Hexagon interested in Alpha ARTs (And short on Rt T_T) If you guys can convince Boy_Lugao to actually spill some ART knowledge I'd be grateful. He only beats me up with those ARTs. He doesn't even give me advice. Hang on, the Saggi III build is alright. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Sagittary Maxis
【Parts】 BD: Sagittary Maxis BD3 : - : Sagittary Maxis LG [Great Capacity] [Great Capacity] : Sagittary Maxis HD2 : - : - : Sagittary Maxis BS : Asura AMJ : Victorl AM : Victorl AM : Asura AMJ : Victorl AM : Victorl AM
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: L COST: 1490 CAPA: 1490 HP: 504 STR: 1 TEC: 27 WLK: 15 FLY: 18 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 7
【Cartridges】 Capacity +60×6 Blast Guard
【必要素材】 Midoro Cosmos×80 Yoguru Cosmos×40 Rainbow Chip×80 Power Amp×1200 Engine Shaft×1200 Rapid Crystal×1200 Hulk Meteorite×400 Screw Bolts×600 Steel Wheel×600 Miracle Ammonite×200 Shining Feather×200
- blead wrote:
- Please do not double post.
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:47 am | |
| As a newbie I'm sure everything you've got at the moment is relatively slow and unleveled, which is the only reason he's not dying instantly. Alpha -anything- is always going to either be luck or RT-dependant. If you're seriously interested in getting an alpha art and are okay with losing your rank, spam alt accounts until you pick up a Rouche, who's arms are the best for alpha-arts. You can then pick up a core like Amateus with UC>RT and easily outscore and defeat any of Boy_Lugao's builds. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Amateus
【Parts】 BD: Amateus BD : Missile Bit(default) : Lazflamme LG : Cannon Baller BS [High Boost Beta] : Mach Knight HD2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : - : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Cannon Baller BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Rouche AM : Handy Bazooka [High Boost] [High Boost] : Rouche AM : Handy Bazooka [High Boost Beta] [High Boost]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: M COST: 1185 CAPA: 1275 HP: 405 STR: 4 TEC: 18 WLK: 1 FLY: 31 TGH: 21
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×5 Beam Guard Blast Guard Short Boost Quick Land Moving Burst
【必要素材】 Fudara Cosmos×9 Red Chip×30 Yellow Chip×30 Turbo Charger×69 Drum Magazine×51
This is a really really easymode version of a build that should be very easy to do. All the parts are UC (aside from Rouche AM) and are easily tunable. There's obviously massive room for improvement if you ever so desired though. I intentionally left the head slot blank, since the starter accounts get a scarf that gives 100 HP. This is worth permanently using. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Amateus
【Parts】 BD: Accel Saber BD : Spike Bit(default) : Crabberoid LG [High Run Alpha] : Cosmo Kaiser HD [High Run Alpha] : - : Berry Earrings : Cosmo Kaiser HD [High Run Alpha] : - : Berry Earrings : Accel Saber BS [High Run Alpha] : Build Arm AM [High Run Alpha] : Bazooka [Great Rapid Beta] : Lancerlot AM2
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: M COST: 920 CAPA: 1140 HP: 415 STR: 8 TEC: 16 WLK: 36 FLY: 2 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Blast Guard Stun Regain Short Boost Quick Land
【必要素材】 Fudara Cosmos×5 Threede Cosmos×1 Green Chip×70 Engine Shaft×45 Rapid Crystal×17 Heat Ash×15 Snail Liquid×35
A great, non-alpha art build worth making when you're starting out. Both upper head accesories both intentionally left blank, since +200 HP for free is infinitely more worth any stats those could give. Obviously much room for improvement as well. As for your saggi build, it's severely bad. Alpha railguns are pretty much horrible to begin with (even if Boy_Lugao kills you with these, I can only blame it on you being new) - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Amateus
【Parts】 BD: Sagittary Maxis BD3 : Rifle Bit(default) : Katana Max LG : Aquila Airs HD [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Maril March BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Air Raider AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Handy Magnum Mod [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Air Raider AM [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Dancing Maracas [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: L COST: 910 CAPA: 915 HP: 390 STR: -19 TEC: 40 WLK: 1 FLY: 38 TGH: 12
LEVEL: 0
【Cartridges】 Accele Roll
【必要素材】 Fudara Cosmos×18 Red Chip×120 Yellow Chip×55 Green Chip×5 Stabilizer×59 Turbo Charger×55 Drum Magazine×33 Guide Circuit×45
Same core, infinitely better stats and performance would out-do that even at level 0. - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Amateus
【Parts】 BD: Sagittary Maxis BD3 : Rifle Bit(default) : Katana Max LG [High Tough] [Clearance] [Clearance] : Aquila Airs HD [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings [Tough] : Maril March BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Air Raider AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] : Handy Magnum Mod [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Air Raider AM [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Dancing Maracas [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [Tough]
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 砲 SIZE: L COST: 1210 CAPA: 1215 HP: 455 STR: -19 TEC: 40 WLK: 1 FLY: 38 TGH: 16
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +60×5 Enhance Internal Weapon×2 Sniper Sight Stealth System Broad Radar Accele Roll
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×19 Red Chip×120 Blue Chip×20 Yellow Chip×55 Green Chip×25 Rainbow Chip×20 Stabilizer×59 Turbo Charger×55 Brake Damper×23 Rapid Crystal×100 Drum Magazine×33 Guide Circuit×45 Hard Plate×11 Hulk Meteorite×100 Handa Cosmos×2
Sample level 10 build. Edit: If you're not already, I suggest using http://cosmiccalc.vacau.com/ for making any builds. I assume that you're using the calculator linked on the bar above. If so, I'd suggest you forget it exists, as it's extremely out dated and mostly incorrect.t | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:06 am | |
| - Trill wrote:
This is a really really easymode version of a build that should be very easy to do. All the parts are UC (aside from Rouche AM) and are easily tunable. There's obviously massive room for improvement if you ever so desired though. I intentionally left the head slot blank, since the starter accounts get a scarf that gives 100 HP. This is worth permanently using. Hexagons can't use the hatchling accessories anymore (the scarf gives 100% EXP+ Gain btw). They can't be used after rank 12. | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:07 am | |
| It's funny you say that because Vyolet's ranked an alt up past 12 and she didn't lose the accesories. | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:44 am | |
| - Trill wrote:
- It's funny you say that because Vyolet's ranked an alt up past 12 and she didn't lose the accesories.
You don't lose thm, they just become unusable. | |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
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Gerrion Wild Molcar
Posts : 2218 Join date : 2012-01-10 Age : 37 Location : Portugal (Europe)
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:57 am | |
| The truth is, they don't become unusable. IT's their benefits that become inactive. You can still wear them for show | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Alpha ART builds that I'm not sure about Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:20 am | |
| When I reached rank 12 on some alt, I entered the garage and the bots equipped with them had that sign that indicates an invalid customization - but that was soem time ago, maybe they changed it ö.ö The thing is: Hexagons cant use 100 HP+ with Hatchling Fan | |
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