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texasred Newbie
Posts : 59 Join date : 2013-07-09
| Subject: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:26 am | |
| After trying to be an air alphag.. iFail.. I'm using a shop Katalina, and found out that air alphagging is kinda hard. I watched a video of Haruka Langit doing a little alphag, and it's done very well. The difference : Haruka : alpha while flying, (only 1 burst of all weapons) doesn't lose altitude, doesn't stop flying My Katalina : alpha while flying, (only 1 burst of all weapons) falls, gets raeped... Anyone know what causes Katalina to be so fail? D: Thanks. | |
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exoakutsu Adept Poster
Posts : 707 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:31 am | |
| Its because katalina only has moving burst as compared to haruka's LONG moving burst. Plus, why are you alphaing with katalina? Katalina is a FAT moe air and core spams more than alphaing unless you are an flapalina or iglylina. Or if your trying to make a beginner allowable kata with 2x cross shooters. In general, katalina is not an alpha air. I'm basing all of this off experience and with no knowledge of the new kata. | |
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StickyKeys Master Poster
Posts : 2670 Join date : 2010-12-31 Age : 36 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:35 am | |
| - exoakutsu wrote:
- I'm basing all of this off experience and with no knowledge of the new kata.
He said "shop katalina" so what you said is mostly correct. | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:51 am | |
| - Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Katalina
【Parts】 BD: Katalina BD : Propeller Bit : Katalina LG [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Beezle BS [Boost] [Boost] [Boost] : Katalina HD [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Beezle BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Adone AM [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Mini Bazooka [Boost] [Boost] [Boost] : Adone AM [Ranger] [Tech] : Mini Bazooka [Boost] [Boost] [High Tech Alpha] : Katalina BD@2
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 空 SIZE: M COST: 1210 CAPA: 1210 HP: 415 STR: 1 TEC: 36 WLK: 1 FLY: 31 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Stun Regain Float Dash Quick Boost Moving Burst Air Loop
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×9 Fudara Cosmos×11 Midoro Cosmos×1 Red Chip×105 Yellow Chip×5 Stabilizer×116 Turbo Charger×45 Drum Magazine×3 Guide Circuit×70 Screw Bolts×20 Steel Wheel×12
- Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Katalina
【Parts】 BD: Katalina BD : Propeller Bit : Katalina LG [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Beezle BS [Boost] [Boost] [Tech] : Katalina HD [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Beezle BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Adone AM [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Beam Gun [High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] : Adone AM [Ranger] [Tech] : Mini Bazooka [Ranger] [Ranger] [Ranger] : Katalina BD@2
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 空 SIZE: M COST: 1210 CAPA: 1210 HP: 460 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 1 FLY: 31 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Stun Regain Float Dash Quick Boost Moving Burst Air Loop
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×4 Fudara Cosmos×13 Midoro Cosmos×4 Red Chip×105 Yellow Chip×25 Stabilizer×184 Turbo Charger×33 Drum Magazine×17 Guide Circuit×70 Screw Bolts×80 Steel Wheel×48
- Spoiler:
【Robot Name】 Katalina
【Parts】 BD: Katalina BD : Propeller Bit : Katalina LG [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Beezle BS [Eagle] [Eagle] [Tech] : Katalina HD [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Alpha] : Ace of Hearts Earrings : Beezle BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] : Adone AM [High Boost Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Beam Gun [High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] [High Boost Alpha] : Adone AM [Ranger] [Ranger] : Flint Musket [High Tech] [Ranger] : Katalina BD@2
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 空 SIZE: M COST: 1210 CAPA: 1210 HP: 475 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 3 FLY: 34 TGH: 13
LEVEL: 10
【Cartridges】 Capacity +70×6 Stun Regain Float Dash Quick Boost Moving Burst Air Loop
【必要素材】 Hidora Cosmos×1 Fudara Cosmos×14 Midoro Cosmos×5 Red Chip×105 Yellow Chip×25 Stabilizer×171 Turbo Charger×65 Drum Magazine×17 Guide Circuit×81 Screw Bolts×100 Steel Wheel×60
There's a few shop builds you could use with her that would do decently, however Air Raider or Pacifar (with Raystag HD) would probably outperform her. If you want to alpha with Katalina specifically, the builds above should do okay. | |
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Halexander Regular Poster
Posts : 410 Join date : 2012-02-29
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:51 am | |
| So... you do have the Moving Burst cart right? | |
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fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 32 Location : A certain boss's room
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:57 am | |
| You are comparing moving burst and long moving burst. It's plain stupid to do so.
Normally, just use air loop when you lose altitude. Kata's low int core is good gay with flap am because it kills all cd. | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:05 am | |
| if you wanted to alpha you should have gotten air raider not katalina katalina core weapon isn't that good for alpha because low range and low damage and not even that much boost steal without eiw | |
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exoakutsu Adept Poster
Posts : 707 Join date : 2012-11-15
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:07 am | |
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Kitouski Ace Poster
Posts : 1054 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:09 am | |
| - Winty wrote:
- if you wanted to alpha you should have gotten air raider
^ This, this, and this. Air Raider has always been and is still the tits. | |
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;)OwneD) Regular Poster
Posts : 370 Join date : 2013-04-28 Age : 26 Location : Canadia
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:35 am | |
| or don't alpha kat and just put 2 bucklers on it and use it in beginner? | |
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texasred Newbie
Posts : 59 Join date : 2013-07-09
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:57 am | |
| lol idk dat Haruka has long moving burst compared to those builds mentioned above, i think my katalina needs more improvements due to still using normal katalina's AM.. gotta get a frau T_T btw, if i take of frau AMs n put 'em on katalina, where should i put frau LG? It's a good melee weapon, i think. | |
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Kitouski Ace Poster
Posts : 1054 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : US
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:07 am | |
| While it's becoming outclassed, Frau LG still works pretty well with slow tunes. Given the amount of times it hits, it slows things more often then a lot of melee. Sticking them on a regular Seraph Crimrose used to be "the thing". I don't think it would be quite AS effective nowadays, but it would probably work fine if you didn't go blind charging in and made use of your radar. | |
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Wah~Sugoi Adept Poster
Posts : 576 Join date : 2013-05-24 Age : 33 Location : Lost into oblivion
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:21 am | |
| +1 to winty Btw, the new gara has cyllene and it has a good hd for alpha air :3 | |
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Axanael [SKELETOR]
Posts : 1319 Join date : 2012-08-02 Age : 27 Location : Team Manager for WoW
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:59 pm | |
| good luck with alphaging kata
these days its pretty much straight up flap arms or go home :l | |
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LS3 [ Girls Generation ]
Posts : 1034 Join date : 2011-07-16 Age : 25 Location : Yᵒᵘ Oᶰˡʸ Lᵒᵛᵉ Oᶰᶜᵉ Vancouver.
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:18 pm | |
| Mini zook kata is pretty good. | |
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KidGlitch Ace Poster
Posts : 1703 Join date : 2013-02-22
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:15 pm | |
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Koiro God Poster
Posts : 5490 Join date : 2012-09-16 Age : 26 Location : Somewhere in the state of Country
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:43 pm | |
| - KidGlitch wrote:
- Godly AA.
>Godly It's like you don't know any better. | |
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Stikbau Adept Poster
Posts : 542 Join date : 2011-11-04 Age : 28 Location : NoWhere
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:13 pm | |
| moving zig zag on the air helps
it feels WONDERFUL to see homing missiles and beams past by your right and left i hav both kata and air raider, and yeah, thumbs up on air raider. if only we can change the head of kata (lol) i would like to put raystag hd there the only good thing that i found from shop kata's built in weapon was only it's great fire rate and boost steal | |
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StickyKeys Master Poster
Posts : 2670 Join date : 2010-12-31 Age : 36 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:12 am | |
| Is Air Raider in shop right now? I don't remember seeing him in there. | |
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Relict? [Moderator]
Posts : 5786 Join date : 2011-02-08 Age : 31 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:13 am | |
| Go get your eyes checked. | |
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Halexander Regular Poster
Posts : 410 Join date : 2012-02-29
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:36 pm | |
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Fireflywater Ace Poster
Posts : 1220 Join date : 2011-05-22 Age : 28 Location : The Undead Daily Garapon
| Subject: Re: Air Alpha? Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:12 pm | |
| - StickyKeys wrote:
- Is Air Raider in shop right now? I don't remember seeing him in there.
Recent awesome CB update added many-a-bots in the shop like some standard garamoes and popular mechs. No variants, all 2s. This is why you see Veagles everywhere. | |
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