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PostSubject: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 6:26 pm

Meh, threw some stuff together.

Build:
Can replace Sniper Sight with Float Dash...just for screwing around cuz every fricken Air has a gatling now...
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 6:36 pm

Why not use a Handy Mag 3 slot to lower your cost?
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 6:39 pm

I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a guide or a question/discussion about the build, but if it is indeed the former I wouldn't recommend anyone to follow it.
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 6:42 pm

Mew wrote:
Why not use a Handy Mag 3 slot to lower your cost?
It's a discussion/help thread Suguri...I just randomly threw shit together that I have in my parts box. Why would I bother making a guide? I don't think anyone's ever seen me use a gatling Air before, and if they did, it was a normal Crimrose.

As for the Handy Mag, idk...I might just go with the conventional Mini Baz, but I kinda like the idea of LPG...
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 7:20 pm

FireKiller87 wrote:

It's a discussion/help thread Suguri...I just randomly threw shit together that I have in my parts box. Why would I bother making a guide?
Probably because it's in the Air Guides section.
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 7:26 pm

We need a sub section "Air-type questions/discussions" and corresponding sections for the other types to.

The build is weird. I'm scared ):
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 8:40 pm

Suguri wrote:
FireKiller87 wrote:

It's a discussion/help thread Suguri...I just randomly threw shit together that I have in my parts box. Why would I bother making a guide?
Probably because it's in the Air Guides section.
Now it's not ;3
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 9:25 pm

Suguri wrote:
FireKiller87 wrote:

It's a discussion/help thread Suguri...I just randomly threw shit together that I have in my parts box. Why would I bother making a guide?
Probably because it's in the Air Guides section.
My fault, sorry. I completely forgot about that...forgive me.


Why are you scared?
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 9:31 pm

Well anyway since there hasn't been much on-topic discussion, an optimal gatling Seraph would look more like this:


【Robot Name】
Seraph Crimrose

【Parts】
BD: Seraph Crimrose BDγ
 : Slayer Bit
 : Lazflamme LG [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]
  : Tentrion BS [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]
 : Seraph Crimrose HD
  : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Beta]
  : Mini Lily [High Tech Beta]
 : Seraph Crimrose BS2
 : Needle Mole AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]
  : Combat Gatling [Force] [High Shooter] [Great Tough]
 : Needle Mole AM [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta]
  : Cheer Pom-pon [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta] [Great Tough Beta]

【Config Check】
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK

【Stats】
TYPE: 空
SIZE: S
COST: 1210
CAPA: 1270
HP: 429
STR: 2
TEC: 39
WLK: 2
FLY: 1
TGH: 30

LEVEL: 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +70×7
Enhance Internal Weapon×2
Stun Regain

Should be able to tank anything but para LL Blast without stunning first-hit, and will output a lot of damage before dying. Should be able to get 1500~2000+ per life if you don't die early.
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 10:12 pm

That leftover capa makes me want to equip Buckler instead of pomfpomf, so the sub-weapon palette isn't messy.

Slotted Lily is really RARE btw ;_;

Weird things are scary.
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 10:33 pm

Suguri wrote:
Well anyway since there hasn't been much on-topic discussion, an optimal gatling Seraph would look more like this:


【Robot Name】
Seraph Crimrose

【Parts】
BD: Seraph Crimrose BDγ
 : Slayer Bit
 : Lazflamme LG [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]
  : Tentrion BS [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]
 : Seraph Crimrose HD
  : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Beta]
  : Mini Lily [High Tech Beta]
 : Seraph Crimrose BS2
 : Needle Mole AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]
  : Combat Gatling [Force] [High Shooter] [Great Tough]
 : Needle Mole AM [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta]
  : Cheer Pom-pon [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta] [Great Tough Beta]

【Config Check】
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK

【Stats】
TYPE: 空
SIZE: S
COST: 1210
CAPA: 1270
HP: 429
STR: 2
TEC: 39
WLK: 2
FLY: 1
TGH: 30

LEVEL: 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +70×7
Enhance Internal Weapon×2
Stun Regain

Should be able to tank anything but para LL Blast without stunning first-hit, and will output a lot of damage before dying. Should be able to get 1500~2000+ per life if you don't die early.

Thanks. Are there any decent replacements for:
1. Needle Mole AM(dunno where to get)
2. Mini Lily(i could probably find)
3. slotted Hana Kanzashi

Other than that, I get where its coming from, and I really like the fact that it can tank that kind of serious damage. Big change from my usual Seraphs(usually played with 8 TGH lol). Not a huge fan of the Wings-only, but it makes sense.
Can I replace the Pompom with a useable weapon, maybe a beam gun or some garbage like that? Even though the gatling will be the primary wep, it's nice to have something decent for the remote possibility that I run out of Gatling ammo before I run out of Seraph Wings.

Thanks for the build.
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyWed May 30, 2012 10:39 pm

FireKiller87 wrote:
Suguri wrote:
Well anyway since there hasn't been much on-topic discussion, an optimal gatling Seraph would look more like this:


【Robot Name】
Seraph Crimrose

【Parts】
BD: Seraph Crimrose BDγ
 : Slayer Bit
 : Lazflamme LG [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]
  : Tentrion BS [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]
 : Seraph Crimrose HD
  : Hana Kanzashi [High Tech Beta]
  : Mini Lily [High Tech Beta]
 : Seraph Crimrose BS2
 : Needle Mole AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]
  : Combat Gatling [Force] [High Shooter] [Great Tough]
 : Needle Mole AM [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta]
  : Cheer Pom-pon [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta] [Great Tough Beta]

【Config Check】
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK

【Stats】
TYPE: 空
SIZE: S
COST: 1210
CAPA: 1270
HP: 429
STR: 2
TEC: 39
WLK: 2
FLY: 1
TGH: 30

LEVEL: 10

【Cartridges】
Capacity +70×7
Enhance Internal Weapon×2
Stun Regain

Should be able to tank anything but para LL Blast without stunning first-hit, and will output a lot of damage before dying. Should be able to get 1500~2000+ per life if you don't die early.

Thanks. Are there any decent replacements for:
1. Needle Mole AM(dunno where to get)
2. Mini Lily(i could probably find)
3. slotted Hana Kanzashi

Other than that, I get where its coming from, and I really like the fact that it can tank that kind of serious damage. Big change from my usual Seraphs(usually played with 8 TGH lol). Not a huge fan of the Wings-only, but it makes sense.
Can I replace the Pompom with a useable weapon, maybe a beam gun or some garbage like that? Even though the gatling will be the primary wep, it's nice to have something decent for the remote possibility that I run out of Gatling ammo before I run out of Seraph Wings.

Thanks for the build.

Hana Kanzashi should be common in 1s. If you don't have one, wait until Bazaar. As for a secondary weapon, with combat gat I don't think if you fired nonstop you'd run out of gatling ammo before wings.
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyThu May 31, 2012 12:36 am

Zwiebel Force wrote:
That leftover capa makes me want to equip Buckler instead of pomfpomf, so the sub-weapon palette isn't messy.

Slotted Lily is really RARE btw ;_;
There's 2 wlk on the build, you can definitely swap to a buckler if you feel the need to.

And slotted mini lily shouldn't be THAT rare considering there was a weekly where all the bots had her. I've got four from bazaar. c3:

FireKiller87 wrote:

Thanks. Are there any decent replacements for:
1. Needle Mole AM(dunno where to get)
2. Mini Lily(i could probably find)
3. slotted Hana Kanzashi

Other than that, I get where its coming from, and I really like the fact that it can tank that kind of serious damage. Big change from my usual Seraphs(usually played with 8 TGH lol). Not a huge fan of the Wings-only, but it makes sense.
Can I replace the Pompom with a useable weapon, maybe a beam gun or some garbage like that? Even though the gatling will be the primary wep, it's nice to have something decent for the remote possibility that I run out of Gatling ammo before I run out of Seraph Wings.

Thanks for the build.
1. There's a very large slew of parts that function well for a Seraph. Namely anything that focuses tec and tgh. There's a lot of UC parts that apply there (Accel Saber, Skullroid, Tarantulic, to name a few).
2. Any +tec accessory. There's a LOT of unused capa.
3. See 2 (but lots of people (not named Suguri) seem to get these slotted from Haku a lot; you can get 1s ones in bazaar for 500 UC or less usually)

I wouldn't bother with a second weapon for two main reasons:

1. As Trill said, the gatling's ammo will last all three wings, if not slightly longer.
2. If you need to farm trees between wing uses you do have seraph tackle; if you wanted something to farm trees faster utilizing the high tec you could opt for a 3s hand gun/handy magnum/beam gun, that definitely fits into the build, but those aren't exactly common resources and I'd want to save them for something that needs it more (unless you have star coins to blow on them, but I'm not one of those people).

Then again, there's always the possibility that the gatling arm could break if you choose a vulnerable arm type. I did see Ahiru's seraph lose its dbmg arm during the first wing before he carried with three kills using a handy mag instead in a match last week, so I can't say it has no merit. I guess if you have those resources available then go for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyThu May 31, 2012 6:31 am

Alright then. Thanks for all the advice.


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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyThu May 31, 2012 2:07 pm

I don't like Seraphs but, in Sugu's build, sacrifice either 2 tech or 2 tgh tunes for 2x C.Veil Revenge if you wanna be a total jerk.
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyThu May 31, 2012 2:35 pm

Turkeysaur wrote:
I don't like Seraphs but, in Sugu's build, sacrifice either 2 tech or 2 tgh tunes for 2x C.Veil Revenge if you wanna be a total jerk.
If you're going to go the CV route I'd just not tune tgh period and go 40 tec 14 tgh CV so you cost even less on death.
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PostSubject: Re: Gatling Seraph...   Gatling Seraph... EmptyThu May 31, 2012 3:22 pm

Speaking of advice, I have one more thing to ask:
My original Seraph(the one I made bout a year ago) has 1/30/1/34/8 stats forecast for the last couple of tunes. I've been debating about whether to further enhance my WBG, put in some more TEC or leave this as is. It still works ok in the current meta(my last game, I took 3rd place just using this Seraph except with 31 FLY), so I'm just not sure what to do with the last couple tunes.

-sigh- I'm probably going to get chewed out here for building wrong again, but for reference, here is the projected final build:
Fire's shitty ole Seraph:
As for the odd bot name, I will be keeping the reasons for THAT to myself.
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