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PostSubject: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptySun Sep 25, 2011 12:27 am

The Beam Gatling. An automatic, LL sized, AIR only weapon found only on Gwyain BG and Robo Gara's Bronze. It can be noted for being automatic, having high force at that, a godlike ammo supply, and having quite a spread. I made this topic due to the BG's potential, yet it's popular enough to have some sort of common bias opinion on it through the community.

Are there any builds focused on using the BG and BG alone? I already know the "40 TEC 38 FLY" deal, but what about carts, physical size, and playstyle?

I play it by getting close to AIRs and riddling them, if I'm facing ground targets, I try to get close but not too close. If I do, I could get a zooka in the face, Kamui staff to the arm, or Geo AM3 to the balls.

This is my current build using Gwyain AM2. I didn't intend for it to look awesome while in flight. I should get Aquila just for his BS and put it on, make it look even more sexy.
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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptySun Sep 25, 2011 1:10 am

Use Centusion BD for lower cost :3
i manage to have a centusion 34 fly for 820 cost (included the BG)

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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptySun Sep 25, 2011 1:13 am

Naisha wrote:
Use Centusion BD for lower cost :3
i manage to have a centusion 34 fly for 820 cost (included the BG)
Cetusion is the highest non-melee based bot on my want list. Simply due to awesome BD and interesting LG. I'll replace Geo F as soon as I get him.
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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptySun Sep 25, 2011 2:14 am

lolIhave3cetusions.


I might look into them for my BG. Currently using Geo F's because dual Shaden BS is lol.

Looks decent. BG has had the spread reduced in that balance adjustment a week or so back, so I hear it's pretty good now. 38 FLY goes without saying, pop a point into TGH for the breakpoint and the rest into TEC. You could also try Thoarla LG+2nd BS for a little more stats and slots. Geo F has plenty of Capa to work with. Don't zero strength for Propeller Bits of course, and basic Air-fare carts apply.
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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptySun Sep 25, 2011 5:07 am

actually... that beam gattling have bad history with me... when it just fresh out from a garapon, a normal crim pwn me with normal beam rifle (yea, the one from shop) while im using that beam gattling... im seriously pissed that time...

nao it my favorite weapon... with so desperate fury and self righteous, i Tuned it triple great range to make it 377 range, nao even dare gunfight againt sagitaris with it...

even mostly what i do is sit on high place and rain some beam to anything in range, those vanguard and blazed baron are my fav target...

somehow maybe i should thanks that crim pilot... but i even cant read jap, so i never can find that person...
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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptySun Sep 25, 2011 6:31 am

The important thing for L-airs is always have a plan for another air.

Simply because once something with a mini zooka comes by and wants to chase you down to the ends of the world, well.

You just gotta have something to deter that, if not an escape plan.
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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptySun Sep 25, 2011 7:23 am

well... im always bring sidearm for that, ussualy combat shotgun... due ussualy air VS air ended become close combat gunfight...

thoarla cant wear mini zok... sigh
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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptySun Sep 25, 2011 1:31 pm

mini zook combat, you combat it back with precise aiming and decently high tgh as a large air. if you make you hitbox small, many s-air users make an early presumption that your hp and tgh are low. take advantage of that and kill. i've killed countless numbers of air, the only one that gives me a serious problem is like, good alphrags and lightning cannon users. that's about it.
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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptySun Sep 25, 2011 1:42 pm

Due to the spread being heavily decreased in the last few updates, the Gwyain AM2 is now a viable weapon to use in arena. If you can keep your aim on your target, it WILL hit.

Tunes for it are usually 2x Great Rapid Beta due to it having a load of ammo, and then a Great Force or Great Reach Beta if they wanted.

As for your bit, try to make it as small as possible. Making a cool bot is fun, but it'll come to hurt you if its hitbox is big.
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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptySun Sep 25, 2011 8:30 pm

PhoenixAir wrote:
mini zook combat, you combat it back with precise aiming and decently high tgh as a large air. if you make you hitbox small, many s-air users make an early presumption that your hp and tgh are low. take advantage of that and kill. i've killed countless numbers of air, the only one that gives me a serious problem is like, good alphrags and lightning cannon users. that's about it.

like i said above... due in this talk the main arm is Beam Gattling [size LL] , no way a Size L bots can wear mini zook... you gonna need something like shotguns, blaster or stardust cannon as sidearm for air2air combat

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Due to the spread being heavily decreased in the last few updates, the Gwyain AM2 is now a viable weapon to use in arena. If you can keep your aim on your target, it WILL hit.

Tunes for it are usually 2x Great Rapid Beta due to it having a load of ammo, and then a Great Force or Great Reach Beta if they wanted.

As for your bit, try to make it as small as possible. Making a cool bot is fun, but it'll come to hurt you if its hitbox is big.

at least in my opinion, install 1 High Reach or Great Reach, or you gonna suffer the same fate as me... owned my mere shop beam rifle...

and about size, thoarla is worst about this... get other L size bots with M size LG moar recommended...
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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptyMon Sep 26, 2011 1:29 am

holy shit, he look awesome..........
i want to try this if i got.
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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptyMon Sep 26, 2011 3:35 am

Courius wrote:
PhoenixAir wrote:
mini zook combat, you combat it back with precise aiming and decently high tgh as a large air. if you make you hitbox small, many s-air users make an early presumption that your hp and tgh are low. take advantage of that and kill. i've killed countless numbers of air, the only one that gives me a serious problem is like, good alphrags and lightning cannon users. that's about it.

like i said above... due in this talk the main arm is Beam Gattling [size LL] , no way a Size L bots can wear mini zook... you gonna need something like shotguns, blaster or stardust cannon as sidearm for air2air combat


you kinda misread my post. im saying use the beam gatling as your weapon. Because of the fact that its LL sized, your bot must be L sized, and that your mostly going to have more hp and more tgh(unless your using aquilla) S-airs are afraif of your hp count. beam gatling users should be using a shield but personally i have a backup approach. my L-Air hops, and unless the zook user is both competent at shooting a zook at high speeds, as well as shooting hoppers in that speed, then you as the gatling user has the extreme advantage. you also have the advantage in stun(due to large tgh) and survivability time. Do not use the gatling as a tool for killing large bots, use the fact that you have 1000+ bullets as suppressive fire and to strike fear in your opponent because they know if they dont hit you, your continuous volleys of beam bullets will hit, and after a few, continuously stun them.


BUT THEN AGAIN, I use the handheld one and not the gwyain am2. I am happy to sacrifice a tad bit of mobility and ammo for a smaller hitbox, faster rate of fire and damage.


if you want generic outputs in damage, the mini zook will hit you for about ~30, 1 of the gatling bullets usually hits an air for about 10-12+/- if they invested in beam guard. the minizook has to do a slight charging after 5 bullets while you on the hand have ~60 bullets, most likely with more range than the minizook. the minizook user has the job of both dodging the attack so they dont get stunned and fall and aim with it at high speeds. the gatling user has to play the same game but continuously volleys bullets, then bring in the tgh and hp factor and the L-Air has the extreme advantage. you only need to land 3-5 bullets in order to stun the air. once the first stun is hit, harrassing the air becomes easier as they are still in place while you are likely only 10-15 bullets used on your starting fire.
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PostSubject: Re: The Beam Gatling   The Beam Gatling EmptyMon Sep 26, 2011 5:12 am

a successful build ive used with the beam-gattling (non gwyain) is to throw it on a bot with shaden boosters. its decent power accuracy and fire rate just go very well with the speed the BS provides, effectively turning the bot into a very effective raiding machine at the match start. I have done this many times in randoms and alot of people simply dont seem to expect a shaden 10 seconds into the match hovering way over there spawn spraying beam death at more then 40 FLY speeds.
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