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Ivis build- Gunner or Melee?
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyWed Apr 25, 2012 9:51 pm

I have a 3s Handy Mag for sale come next bazaar :3


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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyWed Apr 25, 2012 9:52 pm

My Ouka is easy to kill, go kill Trill's. He's been playing Ouka longer than I have.
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyWed Apr 25, 2012 9:55 pm

JadeCicada wrote:
I have a 3s Handy Mag for sale come next bazaar :3

Gimme gimme gimme~!

* I don't have much money, care for a trade?
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyWed Apr 25, 2012 11:32 pm

Dune recently lotto'd a 3s Handy Magnum. Go ask him, as apparently he hardly has a use for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyFri Apr 27, 2012 5:10 pm

Should I try Floatdash with 7 fly?

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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyFri Apr 27, 2012 5:15 pm

Float Dash with lower fly works fine, but note that fly does boost floatdashes performance more compared to walk.
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyFri Apr 27, 2012 5:19 pm

Would it be as functional as short boost?
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyFri Apr 27, 2012 7:05 pm

No, because of the whole concept of hop, moving up and down.

Float Dash does not move up and down

On the other hand, it does dodge, though in a different way. I've taken my Lily in and out of enemy PS before and it is good
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptySat Apr 28, 2012 11:43 pm

Floatdash Ivis( not mine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRJIl4TEEZE&feature=youtube_gdata_player



Doesn't seem too good, but taking float dash means having both blast and sword guard while retaining 3x slow. Man, I really need suggestions: Do the short boost build (without boost run), or Floatdash for 2guard carts.

(Currently I have 2 slows tuned, I'm going to use the 100% harmonic for the third. Just need 12 more rainbow cheepz @w@)
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptySat Apr 28, 2012 11:54 pm

I have a float dash Kuten and quick land is still HIGHLY useful. I'd still take it.
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptySun Apr 29, 2012 12:33 am

I'll try it, if it doesn't work well with Ivis' crappy range then I'll cart reset it.


Btw, is it me or is Ivis bd2's sacrifice arm on the right side, while Ivis bd's is on the left?
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptySun Apr 29, 2012 6:30 am

I keep mine low cost
*brb look on garage*
1160 cost OwO
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptySun Apr 29, 2012 12:23 pm

Shoot, I can get short boost, quick land, sword guard, blast guard and a handy mag. But to fit the capacity, I would lose 2 str: meaning 33 str and 36 wlk.
Will the 2 str make a difference? (Cost:1055 Cap:1060)


*ill post the build here later, my iPod can't copy CosmicCalc outputs QAQ


My finished Ivis build:

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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptySun Apr 29, 2012 1:46 pm

>-4TEC
>Tuned main
Not sure...
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptySun Apr 29, 2012 1:54 pm

y u no clearance tunes
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptySun Apr 29, 2012 2:47 pm

Clearance is kinda hard to get activated, and I have the two guard carts( and I don't have the mats). I could lose 4 str and get two, but I would lose 2 carts. So IMO, I chose not to get them. The weapon isn't for damage dealing, read what Trill wrote ._.




Ps those are stat tunes
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptySun Apr 29, 2012 7:16 pm

you know, if you got clearance, you could drop sword and blast guard cause clearance comes with all guard
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptySun Apr 29, 2012 9:02 pm

But it's alot easier to just get the carts then to get clearance. I don't wanna invest a WHOLE lot on Ivis. And plus, If I were to get 2x clearance, the build would be a tad off and I wont be able to configure it to the desired build. Ill see how this goes and apply changes when a problem is found Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyMon Apr 30, 2012 6:07 am

Pretty easy to get Handa Cosmoses from Weekly Gara, just hope you don't get anything better than the lowest level prizes.
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyMon Apr 30, 2012 9:50 am

I only have 1 QAQ

But I would need two cosmo regrets
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyMon Apr 30, 2012 4:16 pm

Everyone seems to love x3 slow. I'd rather take a Clearance and drop the 3rd slow. I'd rather live and get more chance to proc my slow than increase the chance but die trying. I would also dip STR if I wanted to tune clearance, same reason. Survivability takes priority, IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyMon Apr 30, 2012 5:14 pm

LS3 wrote:
I only have 1 QAQ

But I would need two cosmo regrets

Y u so hurried to tune ._.
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyMon Apr 30, 2012 5:30 pm

Raven wrote:
Everyone seems to love x3 slow. I'd rather take a Clearance and drop the 3rd slow. I'd rather live and get more chance to proc my slow than increase the chance but die trying. I would also dip STR if I wanted to tune clearance, same reason. Survivability takes priority, IMO.
No, you can have 3x slow with 3x clearance and still have 36WLK, and 33STR.

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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyMon Apr 30, 2012 5:56 pm

There are numerous differences between your build and the the most recent one he posted; I was only adhering to the build he laid out.

If I had time to look into the best possible build stat-for-stat I'd make one and post it here. But I don't, so I was just giving pointers based on what I saw there.


EDIT: Though your build points out something I missed. Switching the High Power Alphas to Betas would free up more cost and he could fit one clearance at least, while keeping the current stats. But he already said he'd done the tuning and doesn't have Regrets, so it's kind of a moot point.
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PostSubject: Re: Aivisu Build-Various Questions   Aivisu Build-Various Questions - Page 3 EmptyMon Apr 30, 2012 6:35 pm

Raven wrote:
EDIT: Though your build points out something I missed. Switching the High Power Alphas to Betas would free up more cost
Here's how I tune my melee bots.

High Run Beta -> High Run Alpha -> Run -> High Run -> High Power Beta -> High Power Alpha -> Power -> High Power

If have enough FLY I won't use High Run, but when I don't I use them.

If I'm going to zero TEC, I won't use High Power, because I can use High Power Alpha. If I have some extra FLY left over, I'd use High Power Beta first.

I would use Run and Power to change an odd numbered stat to an even numbered stat, and vice versa. Or if I'm not going to Zero TEC, I'd use them to save me some cost.
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