Kuten Jikun Long M

Regular Poster Posts : 159 Join date : 2011-02-06

I see a few Kuten guides around, I'm not sure if the build should be different though.
Any advice on an assassin build?
I'm using accel saber bs + black ribbon + berry earrings + 2 bucklers

INFO:

Spoiler:

My questions:

Should I go 40/18 boost run? Or will that be too much tune/cost? (For quick assassinations and running the fuck away when
I see resha or a suspicious looking black shadow)

What tough should I aim for?

What carts would be the best for an assassin build?

Thanks~

Ace Poster Posts : 1237 Join date : 2010-12-31

Red tier is usually just fine. Purple is probably overdoing it.

I would take out the grappler for str tunes instead. Grappler -speed isn't very good for your quickpaced Kuten Combo.

Shortboost is also really really useful. Like, mandatory useful. Quickboost is also a nice addition to boost run. Alternatively, you COULD do float dash... But I've only heard and not seen those so.. it sounds fun, at least.

I would go
x5 Capa
Boost Run
Broad Radar
Short Boost

2 of the following:
Blast Guard
Stun Regain
Quick Boost

Grand Poster Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912

I wouldnt suggest Bucklers just simply because of the fact you'll be really tight on capacity otherwise. I'd suggest Tonosama Lander BS, and 2x Fireflower with Black Layer Ribbon and Berry Earring. Tune to red-teir (34/16, 35/15 are good breakpoints to reach for), get 2-3x slow, and 12 tgh minimum. As for carts, shortboost/boost run/stun regain/broad radar are musts IMO.

Regular Poster Posts : 410 Join date : 2012-02-29

I have mine built very similarly to what Trill suggests, but I did manage to fit in dual bucklers as well. The thing I'd like advice on is what to put as the third tune on the kicks. Is 3x slow really worth the chips? I can see grappler being bad cause of the speed, but what about a regular gladiator? or should I just pump Str? I have 35 capa and 4 slots left, counting the one in the legs. I think with a 2 slot buckler I could make 39/18 boost run, but that seems excessive...

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Yokura wrote:: 2 of the following:
Blast Guard
Stun Regain
Quick Boost

I would suggest the ones in bold.

Subject: Re: Kuten Jikun Long M Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:09 am

Check my sign.

Subject: Re: Kuten Jikun Long M Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:11 am

Protip: Best carts for Kuten are the ones EN doesn't use.

...though that's probably only true for regular and not M.

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Suguri wrote:: Protip: Best carts for Kuten are the ones EN doesn't use.

...though that's probably only true for regular and not M.

Please explain in further detail.

Subject: Re: Kuten Jikun Long M Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:27 am

LXE wrote:

Suguri wrote:: Protip: Best carts for Kuten are the ones EN doesn't use.

...though that's probably only true for regular and not M.

Please explain in further detail.

No short boost allowed.

and stun regain is best for high TGH bot. ._.

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Stickboy wrote:

LXE wrote:

Suguri wrote:: Protip: Best carts for Kuten are the ones EN doesn't use.

...though that's probably only true for regular and not M.

Please explain in further detail.

No short boost allowed.

and stun regain is best for high TGH bot. ._.

I get it.

CBEN players are just incapable of critical thinking. We just can't see anything that is bloody obvious.

This just inspires me to tweak my builds.

Subject: Re: Kuten Jikun Long M Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:51 am

Assassins aren't meant to get hit at all anyway. ._.

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Stickboy wrote:: Assassins aren't meant to get hit at all anyway. ._.

Well then, should I remove Stun Regain on my 12TGH bots?

Subject: Re: Kuten Jikun Long M Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:06 am

LXE wrote:

Stickboy wrote:: Assassins aren't meant to get hit at all anyway. ._.

Well then, should I remove Stun Regain on my 12TGH bots?

Yes. ._.

Subject: Re: Kuten Jikun Long M Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:35 am

To tell you the truth, I never had the need to have Broad Radar on my Kuten (red tier boost run).

But my build probably wouldn't be liked because I made it without any help and it was made for me to do well with it, not someone else.

Blast Guard, Boost Run, Short Boost, Stun Regain, Quick Boost. 2 slows, no third tune on the LG, only 1 buckler. 29 str is plenty for me.

Subject: Re: Kuten Jikun Long M Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:14 am

Not sure who is trolling here, but stun regain is an important cart regardless tgh.

Regular Poster Posts : 159 Join date : 2011-02-06

The new Kuten isn't in cosmic calc yet so I had to do manually xD
Also noticed fireflowers aren't in it?
What I would do:

Spoiler:

What I want to do (but too scared because of low percentage tune):

Spoiler:

Regular Poster Posts : 410 Join date : 2012-02-29

Have you played sans broad radar with all the Eris spam? It is all that keeps my Kuten alive. I had one nail me for 198 one time. One mistake and Kuten is toast.

Grand Poster Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912

What I'd do on Kuten

Considering I got her too, I'd really suggest either Shortboost or Float Dash (not kidding at all) in tandem with Boost Run, Shortboost, Stun Regain( or Quick Boost ), and Broad Radar.

As for the debate about Stun Regain : It definately helps. You take a SDC shot for 40-60 and recovery nets you maybe 20 HP back or so it seems. Assuming it only did 40 damage, that literally halves the damage you took. I'm probably innacurate on the SDC/regain on HP, but the concept is still the same. I personally suggest taking Stun Regain on all bots that have it, unless other carts are literally required.

Regular Poster Posts : 410 Join date : 2012-02-29

I also like my stun regain. Seems like almost everything stuns a 12 tgh bot so a little extra hp helps. What are the advantages of using float dash? I considered it, but it is twice as expensive as short boost, and short boost gets me over obstacles too.

Anyway, here is what I have so far

Spoiler:

Still not sure what to do with that last 35 capa. Is x3 slow tunes worth the grinding for more chips? has anyone tried grapplers on her? or should I just crank Str?

Subject: Re: Kuten Jikun Long M Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:04 pm

Assuming you tune up progressively (starting with 3x slows on the LG):

- Blast guard
- Sword guard
- Quick boost
- Boost run
- Short boost
- Stun regain
- Broad radar

Aim for 36 WLK (quick boost-less boost run lands are terrible, broad radar-less are the worst), add some STR and HP then drop boost run and quick boost.

Bucklers on Kuten are stupid, do you guys even check how the arms behave when the bot runs before putting those on? Use beam gun mod or another effective back-up gun instead.

Subject: Re: Kuten Jikun Long M Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:16 pm

Turkeysaur wrote:: Bucklers on Kuten are stupid, do you guys even check how the arms behave when the bot runs before putting those on?

Hitboxes are static. No matter where the shields end up moving to, they cover the space where they are when you're standing still.

Regular Poster Posts : 410 Join date : 2012-02-29

I was gonna say, mine always both blow off before I die, so they must be doing something. I didn't know that tho, thanks for the info. Smile

Subject: Re: Kuten Jikun Long M Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:27 pm

Suguri wrote:

Turkeysaur wrote:: Bucklers on Kuten are stupid, do you guys even check how the arms behave when the bot runs before putting those on?

Hitboxes are static. No matter where the shields end up moving to, they cover the space where they are when you're standing still.

Gonna check that out later, really later. I swear animation upon impact shows it's absorbing damage from the direction faced when running, or it absorbs from both directions?

Regular Poster Posts : 159 Join date : 2011-02-06

Not sure which carts to take now #em6

So if I go take short boost, I could surely tank some str.

I don't know what Turkey is saying though :/

Regular Poster Posts : 410 Join date : 2012-02-29

His post is a little hard to understand, because he is describing a tune as you go sort of thing. I think the final build he is advocating is 36 walk 3x slow with 5x Capa, Broad Radar, Short Boost, Stun Regain, Sword Guard and Blast Guard. Any left over capa to Str and HP.

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