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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptySat Mar 10, 2012 2:11 am

Nymph~ wrote:
open @ your own risk..
Another Eris "free feature":

that glitch/issue/buf... was supposed fixed 1 week ago!!!

but must be like the fix to the Mialy WB.... sometimes still permanent WB.

about the cactusssss hug:



for me isnt working!!!

- Stun regain
- 26 TGH

Another found:

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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 22, 2012 7:28 am

You know I kinda wanted to get one of these just so I could see if I just smash my head on keyboard and mouse and still win, with eyes closed. Maybe hook up a multilayed DDR pads and try dancing to Drude - Sandstorm and see if I still win in both games.

Or just take pleasure that I one on oned an Eris and beat her to a pulp with little damage on my Hound Dog Extreme. Get back in your corner whelp! *Hound Kicks*.

Anyhow, just keep playing this simple stupid bot, rather then being skillful and customizing a real bot.

So I'm not too off-topic: Stealth only works well if you go slow otherwise you leave those little circles which I can easily swing at. Striker is the better build in my opinion, that might actually challenge me.

But in the end, no one will think much of you beyond that your a pay-to-win no skill hack. And when they get nerfed, you'll be back to being nothing. (cause if they don't, they'll lose most their players like their bleeding already)
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 22, 2012 8:09 am

>Stealth
>Slow

????
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 28, 2012 2:14 am

While I repeatedly felt the pain of an Eris slicing apart my poor mechs (what did my Crimrose ever do to you >.<) I actually like her. Character wise I mean and I won't say no to using her at all. I will be honest and say I like her despite being on the receiving end of her attacks XD

While its true is ridiculously OP atm you gotta admit that her design is nice and I won't mind the storyline being continued (where is the rest of the Crim and Ivis story >.<). But I agree with the sentiments of most players that a bot makes the entire UC available mechs utterly garbage without skill at all is no fun :\

Then again they are new, and mostly likely will be balanced later on by new mechs or nerfed since this is the first Zero-types CB introduced. Kinda like when RO first introduced the Transcendent classes and the now seriously Uber Powered Third Classes. (A when certain Third Class in RO was introduced. The creators noticed it to be immortal while it cannot kill other classes 1v1 this class if built right will not be killed by any other class either...this is no joke.)

I wish CB would take a tip from SDGO and make all everything earnable through hard work not just cash.
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 28, 2012 4:02 am

When people with op bots don't know how to build them
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 28, 2012 12:15 pm

DarkChuky wrote:

- I don't really care if ppls becomes mad if I use Eris, it's my turn to be the OP.

You know, everybody else became OP by investing time in the game, getting experience, and learning how to be better different aspects of the meta. They tuned, they farmed, and they worked their asses off to get their 10.0 BR rating and well-tuned bots. In short, they worked for their prowess.

You just happened to get lucky with a roll in a Garapon that never should have existed. That doesn't make you OP, that makes you lucky at best and cowardly at worst.

Eventually, something will happen that enables other players to fight on an even footing with the zeroes, and you'll be screwed over because your "OP-ness" is no longer effective.

INB4 You complain about the OP-ness of the new set of bots that render your Eris useless.
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 10:02 am

When certain bot is OP, why do ppl who use it blamed for using it ?
Please back to the topic.
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 11:12 am

First thing, Zwelivelle, note if threads are more than a month old. If so, there is a high chance that you'll be labbeled as a "necromancer", someone who revives old posts just for pure fun. Check the rules if you haven't, but in case you did, do always check the last post's date when you're a newcomer on any forum.

Two, such hatred comes from the fact that sometimes humans have to shift their blame to something, even if said target is an indirect cause of the problem. Since players can't convince C.S. to remove the Zeros (though there were nerfs for them later on), the next ones in the list are the players who use them.

And lastly, when in the Guides section, don't solely say to stay on topic if you have no sort of other feedback about the topic. That's why we have the moderators and admins. If you believe you should do something, use the PM feature to warn them.


And on topic, do check the nerfs that were made. They make a few changes in your Zero gameplay required, if i'm not mistaken. (Here's the Update where the changes took place: http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t9721-7-19-12-update-gara-and-balance)
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 12:01 pm

Quote :
First thing, Zwelivelle, note if threads are more than a month old. If so, there is a high chance that you'll be labbeled as a "necromancer", someone who revives old posts just for pure fun. Check the rules if you haven't, but in case you did, do always check the last post's date when you're a newcomer on any forum.
1. Sorry i'm not a necromancer, since the Eris, Resha are come at the New year gara, this is the latest thread available. And I don't think I'm that young to have fun with small things like that. Newcomer is only because I just recently joined this forum, it doesn't mean that i never been in any forum before.

And lastly, when in the Guides section, don't solely say to stay on topic if you have no sort of other feedback about the topic. That's why we have the moderators and admins. If you believe you should do something, use the PM feature to warn them.
2. I just got Eris and I want to learn something, and I only see you know what... The reading is seems ok until someone flame that i saw in daily basis at Arena. And how I supposed to feedback since I never use that Eris ?

And on topic, do check the nerfs that were made. They make a few changes in your Zero gameplay required, if i'm not mistaken. (Here's the Update where the changes took place: http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t9721-7-19-12-update-gara-and-balance)
3. Doesn't really matter, I never use one before
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 12:59 pm

Sup eris users ,I have some questions.

Which revenge tune benefits Eris the most? I took the Darkness hide cart.
Crimson Veil or Clearance?

I was gonna do Crimson Veil x3 but I thought it would be best to check first.

Is rejection worth taking now? running out of cart space.
Im trying to do something like this :

COST: 1490
CAPA: 1490
HP: 470
STR: 40
TEC: -7
WLK: 36
FLY: 1
TGH: 22

LEVEL: 12

【Cartridges】
Capacity +70×6
Blast Guard
Stun Regain
Assault Step
Zero Cartridge×3

Thankss!

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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 1:21 pm

Darkness Hide builds really shouldn't be used for crowd diving, so such high tough seems somewhat un-needed. Her play style more suits attacking large groups and dealing insane burst damage (with Darkness Hide exit into a full melee combo on the people you hit) and then fleeing the scene to repeat the process.

Spoiler:

I'm really not certain on how DH builds really play after 7/19. She can be stunned out of DH now so I feel like she needs to be faster than standard 36 walk so that she can't get clipped from random shots as easy. Higher teir BR bots can be hard to keep track of with a lockon, much less without one.

Either way the build I posted comes out lower cost than standard Eris builds by 20 cost despite the Capa tune since the build drops a Cap cart.

The build is orange-teir, but she can easily go redteir boostrun if you drop the C.Veils, which may or may not be worth doing.

P.S I think you already realized EX Blade Inferno isn't worth taking.
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 02, 2013 1:42 pm

I will take into consideration everything you said.

Thank you for taking the time to help me.

Haha, was expecting a couple of hate/troll posts before something helpful comes along. Very Happy
Glad I was wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 2:22 pm

Hi, my 2 build are still playable but due the amount of Zeros you will need to be really skilled to play without Revenge and Slow tunes...

After the nerf of the Cloak a change a little my build, removed the 2nd cart of Darknes Hide (yes no more weapons disable for the victims) because I hate that when uncloaked the Sub remain in the DH skill... then u need to move to the red or blue blade... and I normal play with X Blade as main... Then I did small changes on her, and used heras Glits Strike but without the X Blade HP regain... was fun...

Today with the amount of Zeros I have done another rebuild.. I must confess, they now go to the God OP easy builds:

Cloak Eris: Got the more STR, Slow Tunes and Cloak Carts at full.
GS Eris: CVeil + More Damage and TGH

Both builds now have 600hp+ (still not has high as someones) and a little more of speed in WLK. Can survive a lot also vs 3 or 4 Zeros at the same time (God! a rain of GS its a nightmare.. impossible to move or attack)

Feel free to use all the positive information on the thread, and forget the Rage Guys... they now probably using Punk Zeros...
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 2:38 pm

>Eris
>Skill
Shut up chuky
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 2:52 pm

That_Wiesel_Guy wrote:
>Eris
>Skill
Shut up chuky

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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 3:33 pm

I tried playing both carts and found that DH is a waste of time and resources now. GS Eris has a ridiculous AoE debuff, not to mention EX Revive. She's fast, she's stronk, she refills HP.

Darkness Hide on the other hand takes almost 2 seconds to initiate, the effect disables boosting and may even wear off (derp), plus: pretty much any random team mate may cancel it with an (un)intended Fire Pillar/Whirl Wind and thus waste your DH's low ammo.

We even have SUPs with pierceguns now, not to mention the Wing Duo- Personaly I find DH surpriingly challenging to use (considering it is an initium slut - I still fare best w/ Kuten ^^").
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 3:54 pm

DH isn't hard at all. Nothing can home on you nor aim assist on you. Combined with Boost Run, it makes you a pain in the ass to hit. Things with large AoEs are your problem. And you have to be specific

DH is pretty much the easiest to tune. She doesn't require as much health as glint since you can get in and get out more easily.

This is all wrong, i don't care. Ammo refill works DH
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 5:26 pm

Zwiebel Force wrote:
I tried playing both carts and found that DH is a waste of time and resources now. GS Eris has a ridiculous AoE debuff, not to mention EX Revive. She's fast, she's stronk, she refills HP.

Darkness Hide on the other hand takes almost 2 seconds to initiate, the effect disables boosting and may even wear off (derp), plus: pretty much any random team mate may cancel it with an (un)intended Fire Pillar/Whirl Wind and thus waste your DH's low ammo.

We even have SUPs with pierceguns now, not to mention the Wing Duo- Personaly I find DH surpriingly challenging to use (considering it is an initium slut - I still fare best w/ Kuten ^^").

i went on someone else's account, pulled out a partially tuned DH eris(40 str, not revenge tunes, no weapon tunes of any kind), and easily got decent scores. The bonus scoring applied to melee damage makes it incredibly easy to score with any decent melee bot regardless of what you actually accomplish. tl;dr ur dum

here's a video of me having no idea what i'm doing on eris:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELb-HDRNTFc#t=5m38s
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 5:46 pm

I never said she didn't score high, I just said that imo you're better off with Glint Strike.
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 5:54 pm

Zwiebel Force wrote:
I never said she didn't score high, I just said that imo you're better off with Glint Strike.
it depends on how much you can tune. DH is for people who don't want to autism tune and still do well. Glint requires shittons of autism and health but more rewarding in the end.

If you don't want to put effort into tuning, DH would be better. If you have autism and mats, Glint is a better choice
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 6:52 pm

Zwiebel Force wrote:
I just said that imo you're better off with Glint Strike.

no you didn't. You said "waste of resources", "challenging to use", and "I score better with kuten".
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 6:56 pm

Winty wrote:
Zwiebel Force wrote:
I just said that imo you're better off with Glint Strike.

no you didn't. You said "waste of resources", "challenging to use", and "I score better with kuten".
But you can probably admit tuning an eris is probably waste of resources anyways :3
Anyways, not like Eris is that hard of a character to use.
You find someone, infinite them, and walk away like nothing ever happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 7:03 pm

Akhenderson wrote:

You find someone, infinite them, and walk away like nothing ever happened.

no that's mvc3
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 7:08 pm

Winty wrote:
Akhenderson wrote:

You find someone, infinite them, and walk away like nothing ever happened.

no that's mvc3
This is true
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PostSubject: Re: Eris - My two builds   Eris - My two builds - Page 3 EmptyWed Jan 16, 2013 7:15 pm

Winty wrote:
Akhenderson wrote:

You find someone, infinite them, and walk away like nothing ever happened.

no that's mvc3
Eris confirmed for mvc4
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