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Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 45 Location : Costa Rica
Subject: Eris - My two builds Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:10 am
Ok I don´t see ppls posting Builds (hahaha so op that builds are not required)
so there is my 2 builds:
Striker Eris
First, the Striker Eris, the one I really like, it´s more like a normal mele that a coward that hides and attacks from back:
Spoiler:
The final build will have: 1 Grapple more (3 in total) and 32 Str 30 TGH 2 Capa carts more for a total of 1220 cost (yes a lot) - Sword guard, Blast Guard, Stun Regain and Short boost - Glint Strike 1 and 2, Ex-Blade Revive x1 (good when farming no need for lvl 2)
She will fight as a normal Mele, but with the nice Range attack Glint Strike (I would like more status time in the attack, its too short)
About the path: the drain hp is nice but only if u hit the enemy with the X blades attack, if u use the combo, probably he will die before u hit with the X blade. Really good to farm in Arcantus, u will never die. the Glint strike is really good range mele attack and deals stun + disable all weapons/subs, but it last a little like 2 seconds.
Almost forgot.. Haku will hate this build, the range attack does 1000-1500 damage to him, so use it when he is using the wind shield!!!
Cloak Eris
I don´t like to play whit this one, it´s easyer to play with her and its like the everybody does... but yes she is good... its better that Striker Eris
Spoiler:
Still not sure if I will use the Rejection Cart.. I barely use the wings shield (I always forgot she have it!!!)
but if I add it the final build will have: 1220 cost.. - 30 TGH - 25 STR - 38 wlk (more that enoguth to runaway and cloak) - +1 Grappler more for a total of 3. Same Carts as before ... Hopper with mele and blast guard... plus the Stun regain. - Darknes Hide 1 and 2, Ex-Blade Inferno and the Rejection...
If I remove the rejection will go up to 31 str.
Well that is what I have... I dont like the Assault step, the side hop/loop is to short, the front dash is really good, but I prefer the short boost to catch airs. Not sure if the STR and Grapplers are giving more damage, but I build her as a normal LND.
About the path: When you are in cloak mode its harder to be hit, so it´s like a big shield, when u are in cloak mode no attacks, dash or jumps can be performed (if u land in water u must exit the cloak) when u exit the cloak, Eris will perfomr and X Blade attack that will disabla all weapons and stun lock your enemies for a long time. The EX-Blade inferno is a power blast that is added to the X-Blade attack, u must have it, if the enemy gets hit by the X blade and can run, he wil die from the blast. About the Rejection, I haven´t tested it, but it will give u more ammo, cveil and all guard, that sounds really good. Be carefull when u exit cloak, sometimes the SUB attack get stuck in Cloak or X blade mode, just be quick with the E or Shitf to change the attack.
Will not recomed one or the other, is all up to you.
VIDEOS:
Striker Eris
Spoiler:
Cloak Eris
Spoiler:
(I will put skills details in the video comments...)
Last edited by DarkChuky on Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:26 pm; edited 2 times in total
Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 913
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:06 am
ZERO-type bots come with default Tough Runner and Quickland, and from what I understand, taking these carts is worthless with them.
I see several things wrong with the first build. 21 TGH is breakpoint. Walk breakpoint is 36, not 40.
Also I think you linked the same image of Eris build twice; both are named Striker Eris and have exact same carts ;^;
fggt Flat chests are JUSTICE!
Posts : 5770 Join date : 2011-02-03 Age : 33 Location : A certain boss's room
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:39 am
Trill wrote:
ZERO-type bots come with default Tough Runner and Quickland, and from what I understand, taking these carts is worthless with them.
Default mean they already appear in the cart list, he didnt take those carts.
DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 45 Location : Costa Rica
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:50 am
Trill wrote:
ZERO-type bots come with default Tough Runner and Quickland, and from what I understand, taking these carts is worthless with them.
I see several things wrong with the first build. 21 TGH is breakpoint. Walk breakpoint is 36, not 40.
Also I think you linked the same image of Eris build twice; both are named Striker Eris and have exact same carts ;^;
thanks Trill, I updated the screenshot of the Cloak Eris.
about 36 wlk... I remember that it was updated to 37 and 40 still a break point, a 40 wlk is faster that 37... at least for me, I see the diference when I use a 37 wlk bot.
Aria Master Poster
Posts : 2859 Join date : 2011-03-24 Age : 34
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:22 am
>Coward Eris >30 TGH >Stun Regain
IIRC, 33 TGH is the "breakpoint" for Stun Regain for the 30 range (38 is also).
UncleBobbie Ace Poster
Posts : 1342 Join date : 2011-03-02 Age : 30
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:57 am
Why would you discuss Eris builds?
You do not require a decent build. You do not require any skill. You are Eris.
You will own everything.
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:14 am
UncleBobbie wrote:
Why would you discuss Eris builds?
You do not require a decent build. You do not require any skill. You are Eris.
You will own everything.
He wants to get the best out of his Eris.
He wants it to be more OP than it already is.
Rinnixt Newcomer
Posts : 17 Join date : 2012-02-21 Age : 32 Location : Slow Connection World
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:12 am
UncleBobbie wrote:
Why would you discuss Eris builds?
You do not require a decent build. You do not require any skill. You are Eris.
You will own everything.
i think he is preparing already for more new ZEROs, but i don't there'll be more OP bots/ZEROs until summer. new moes maybe, but i don't think it'll be more OP than initiums
for build, nice carts is more than enough
DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 45 Location : Costa Rica
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:13 pm
well, the true is that I want to be as OP as I can just to kick another ZEROs, but when u are in the battle u kick everything... and as everybody know Im a rusher that try to kill 1 or 2 then die... hahahahaha (I'm a master of that skill!!! rush&die)
and also I don't want to fuck the build as I do with Aila, going full str was a mistake.
Didn't know about TGH breakpoints... thanks for the info.
I don't really like to play OP bots in OP mode, but in the current arena is mandatory!!!!
I'm wondering If I would be able to use normal or troll bots again.... T_T I miss my Gold Fish (Gold Balteon).. ok the only real OP bot I used was Mialy but that is cause of all the A chans... xD!!!
Thanks for all the feedback! it's good and looks like I'm doing good builds... again the Striker Eris is harder to use, u get Cloaked Eris and Reshas in your ass at any moment!!!!
(Update: I will upload a video of each Eris in practice mode.)
necrodrakath Game Hater
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Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:24 pm
cough* cough*
Spoiler:
DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 45 Location : Costa Rica
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:26 pm
neckro u are using rejection.. did it really works?
Chitose Newbie
Posts : 40 Join date : 2011-08-29
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:32 pm
rejection Lv1: 30 ammo , 100% rejecting shell/beam damage, still receive blast/melee damage, not 100%
rejection lvl2: 50 ammo, All-guard , same damage receiving like lvl1
need confirmation.
Add: some weapon which ignore shield will still do full damage onto rejecting Eris.
necrodrakath Game Hater
Other / Decline to state Posts : 606 Join date : 2010-12-30 Age : 29
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:55 pm
DarkChuky wrote:
neckro u are using rejection.. did it really works?
not mine
Kuro Newcomer
Posts : 2 Join date : 2012-02-29 Age : 31 Location : My own little world
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:32 pm
The only real advantage of getting rejection Lv 2 is the extra 20 ammo and the all-guard effect (Still unsure what all guard is even SUPPOSED to do.) I also confirm Chitose's stats on Lv 1 and Lv2 rejection and damage protection.
I usually use rejection only to escape melee that might stun me, protect against AIRs trying to kill me from above, stuff like that. Again, unsure what all-guard is supposed to do, though lv 2 has served me pretty well when it comes to dodging and living to fight another day.
Though the real reason I got lv 2 is that it provides Crimson Veil permanently as long as you have ammo, I usually use it to rush in on VA-spamming reshas, since VA doesn't stun me I can easily run up to them and combo to death, VA's damage isn't THAT impressive if you get out fast (It hits 3~8 per "stun" to me, with CV, no stun, at most I take 10~30 damage which isn't much.) 50 ammo usually protects me longer so I can go in, do damage, and if things get horribad in there, jet out protected from stuns.
Tl;dr get lv 2 rejection if only for that 20 more ammo. Guess there might be better carts but 50 ammo's on 10 more cost decent to rely on if nothing else but for AG defense and stun protection, and Eris is all but short on cost. (See necro's spoiler).
Dune Ace Poster
Posts : 1071 Join date : 2010-09-12 Age : 39 Location : A Desert
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:08 pm
All guard is a buff that gives 30% damage reduction from all sources, originally found from Chibi kisses (even before the kiss was buffed to heal the 3 hp a kiss)
Kuro Newcomer
Posts : 2 Join date : 2012-02-29 Age : 31 Location : My own little world
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:42 am
Well thanks for clearing that up, Dune. here you go. 10 more cost and a cart slot for +20 Rejection ammo, full protection from shell and beam-type damage, Crimson veil, and 30% protection from blast and melee damage. I guess it's worth it unless you want to get other carts for that godly capa.
donggyu Regular Poster
Posts : 159 Join date : 2011-02-06
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:54 am
Dark is in my clan, and it's true, he has literally almost every single gara bot in cb but he doesn't like playing the op ones
DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 45 Location : Costa Rica
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:28 pm
donggyu wrote:
Dark is in my clan, and it's true, he has literally almost every single gara bot in cb but he doesn't like playing the op ones
thanks donggy.. yes I dont like but the current amount of ZEROS (Reshas) makes impossible to play as I used to do (Crazy rush.. kill.. die)
my builds still incomplete... but Im 80.000 exp closer to lvl 12... (50+30) probably will take time to get all the stats as I wanted, last time I lost 5 protectors triying the 3rd Grapple in Cloak Eris....
Probably I will test the X blade lvl 2 in Striker Eris (<-- This is the harder to play, she can´t do the same amount of damage and it´s like a normal LND no cloak = eats all Reisha Homming attacks without reashing enemy base!!!)
Strykerr Regular Poster
Posts : 331 Join date : 2011-12-13
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:38 pm
Just saying, but this thread has no point to it whatsoever. Seriously, a tec tuned Eris would still be able to get top 5 pretty easily.
DarkChuky Adept Poster
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Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:11 pm
Strykerr wrote:
Just saying, but this thread has no point to it whatsoever. Seriously, a tec tuned Eris would still be able to get top 5 pretty easily.
thanks for the comments, but if its useless for u doesn´t mean that its useless for everybody.....
I have gatther good feedback from the post.... and Im sure it has helped some newbies (I know it cause the also ask me in game!!!)
Update People from other factions starts to hate me... hahahahah that is the power of the OP bots????
Malphes Ace Poster
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:12 am
DarkChuky wrote:
Update People from other factions starts to hate me... hahahahah that is the power of the OP bots????
no? we've always hated you.
necrodrakath Game Hater
Other / Decline to state Posts : 606 Join date : 2010-12-30 Age : 29
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:58 am
Malphes wrote:
DarkChuky wrote:
Update People from other factions starts to hate me... hahahahah that is the power of the OP bots????
no? we've always hated you.
I am a bad poeppl. Blank Quoting.
Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 913
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:28 am
necrodrakath wrote:
Malphes wrote:
DarkChuky wrote:
Update People from other factions starts to hate me... hahahahah that is the power of the OP bots????
no? we've always hated you.
I used to like you but if you're going to sit there and defend those sacks of shit then just don't even talk to me.
Malphes Ace Poster
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2011-08-28
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:18 am
i'm in a good mood so i'll explain why we don't necessarily like you that much without being a complete dick
1. you lag 2. your account is shared throughout the clan and usually really shitty people end up getting on there 3. you use autoplay bots and nothing else
Strykerr Regular Poster
Posts : 331 Join date : 2011-12-13
Subject: Re: Eris - My two builds Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:29 am
Malphes wrote:
i'm in a good mood so i'll explain why we don't necessarily like you that much without being a complete dick
1. you lag 2. your account is shared throughout the clan and usually really shitty people end up getting on there 3. you use autoplay bots and nothing else
This is one time I'm going to have to agree with Malphes, and if you know us, we don't agree on ANYTHING.