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PostSubject: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 10:56 pm

I got Aila....

now heres the thing.... i heard many people say that her sword is bugged and needs to be fixed.
you see i tuned her sword for force to see what happens. it seems that the damage dealt by her tuned force sword isnt as big, even tough its 39 force....

So my question is... Will CS fix this? because i cant really play a robot who doesnt deal that much damage.
BUT... worst case scenario is that she is already fixed...AND I MADE A HORRIBLE MISTAKE .

People say that her SWORD is based on TEC and STR... so maxing STR is pointless... if that is correct please tell me.

that is all i need to know, please tell me what you know. Very Happy

lol honestly Aila's the most confusing robot i have ever tuned.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 1:12 am

maybe her sword split force/slash like elisa in aura mode do
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 1:45 am

Aurum_Sol wrote:

12 strengh 21 tech = 25 damage
18 strengh 11 tech = 29 damage
18 strengh 13 tech = 29 damage
18 strengh 14 tech = 29 damage
18 strengh 15 tech = 29 damage
22 strengh 11 tech = 31 damage

damage according to strengh chart:

12str: 31 dmg
18str: 36 dmg
22str: 39 dmg

25*100/31 = 80,6452 %
29*100/36 = 80,5556 %
31*100/39 = 79,4872 %

both values rounded

conclusion:
the direct weapon hits are strengh based, not tech based
they lose 20% total damage of the swing to generate the 3 icicles that you can spawn when you feel like it

i wont bother to test the damage base of the icicles as most "good" players seem to not make use of them anyways

would have loved to have higher strengh values for more numbers, but like usual, everything i write is generally seen as ridiculously stupid and thus, those with high strengh builds wont supply numbers

maybe ill check if i have some tuned spareparts or anything else for more different strengh values, though that shouldnt be necessary

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on a side note, melee icicles seem to be blast damage


These numbers look accurate to me, I've done some testing and received similar results.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 1:53 am

Hmmm... the conclusion says its strength based.
but i heard that her sword is bugged and will be fixed.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 5:51 am

if you heard from the moronthread in /commu/

no its not bugged, i did my tests after the people that didnt see a difference between 29 and 45 damage made that thread

edit:
it might be possible that cb will adjust the damage / swing from 80% to 100% if the jp community whined enough for the same reason (that doesnt exist)
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 7:06 am

Based on TGH.

I overheard the GMs talking in a public toilet and they were mentioning something about making newer bots harder to kill, I believe that Aila is one of their tests to see how this works out within the CBEN community, instead of just sugoi dogs being the only real 'tanks' they wish to make more bots that will ultimately fall under this field.

I waited around for a few minutes to see if I could get any more information about CB from them but they were talking about their 3 sizes or something..

Eventually they were discussing this 'tank' role, basically it's just a sugoi dog, but with less damage and maneuverability but with a higher hp and TGH. With this, they'll be a real talk instead of just a contrib whore.

I did not hear anything else before they discovered me, which then I then joined their conversations about our 3 sizes..


For the record mine are:
I'm 153 cm tall
My sizes are - from the top 85, 52 and 81

Don't ask me what their sizes were because I forgot.
Don't ask me if they're going to nerf Aquila Girl
Don't ask me why TBGs pantsu are showing
Don't ask me my a/s/l as my heart only goes out to one man and woman
Don't ask me if Lily can be any more cuter
Don't ask me if I will be joining them in anymore of their weekly meetings

Nymph~ wrote:
maybe her sword split force/slash like elisa in aura mode do
Where's your SIG from brotastic?

Haa~n
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 7:11 am

at least overhear the devs in the toilet when you make this kind of post
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 7:14 am

Aurum_Sol wrote:
at least overhear the devs in the toilet when you make this kind of post

Didn't I mention that?

Puddin' wrote:
I overheard the GMs talking in a public toilet

Gosh~~ You so silly #^.^#
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 8:03 am

GMs have nothing to do with balance adjustments, thats why i told you to overhear the devs >.>
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 8:12 am

Aurum_Sol wrote:
GMs have nothing to do with balance adjustments, thats why i told you to overhear the devs >.>


Devs have a higher class of public toilet where they have their meetings in (It has soap)

There are no balance adjustments to be discussed, because CBEN doesn't anything without CBJP doing it first.
Soooo therefore Dev toilet meeting is useless.

GMs also know content and changes before the general community, doesn't matter who I heard it from it's still 100% true (even my 3 sizes) Gms may not have come up with it but they were still discussing the content.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 10:13 am

Hmmm...

iam hearing two sides here...
yes i did try her damage. it seems GG doesnt help as much. IT DOES INCREASE DAMAGE, but only by like 4 - 6 pts.

IF it is not a bug... then i did waste money and time....
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 10:52 am

darboy wrote:
Hmmm...

iam hearing two sides here...
yes i did try her damage. it seems GG doesnt help as much. IT DOES INCREASE DAMAGE, but only by like 4 - 6 pts.

IF it is not a bug... then i did waste money and time....


her sword has 30 base force, a great grappler does increase this by 3 force

with 40 strengh that translates into a 5 damage gain
if you cut off the 20% you will propably be looking at a 4 damage gain

even with this, what the fuck are you expecting that great grappler should do? adding 20 damage straight?
the problem you have are way to high expectations for great grappler, not the mechanics of her sword
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 10:55 am

With tat amount of combo, why not slow tune??.-.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 12:21 pm

24 STR:
Spoiler:

12 STR:
Spoiler:

I think adding str has an effect...
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 1:20 pm

increase is so shitty.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 2:26 pm

Rinrin wrote:
increase is so shitty.

the damage gain from strengh is equal to any other weapon/bot/whatever
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 2:38 pm

Someone Test with another sword, to see if the STR bonus is added to the damage....

And if this Aila isn't bugged then I has been scammed by CB, I tuned mine to 40 str... and added 3 grapplers and didn't see any change.. (specially vs Haku, my izuna is doing more mele damage that Aila), My Ivis have less STR and is doing a lot more of damage (almost the same force in the sword)
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 2:39 pm

tggt wrote:
With tat amount of combo, why not slow tune??.-.

I think Etherlight did that. I got bopped in the head by E's Aila and gangraped by the enemy team. (Although, I honestly wasn't paying 100% attention.. I was drunk and stuff happened and I got stabbed repeatedly while I turned purple.)
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 3:31 pm

DarkChuky wrote:
Someone Test with another sword, to see if the STR bonus is added to the damage....

And if this Aila isn't bugged then I has been scammed by CB, I tuned mine to 40 str... and added 3 grapplers and didn't see any change.. (specially vs Haku, my izuna is doing more mele damage that Aila), My Ivis have less STR and is doing a lot more of damage (almost the same force in the sword)

will you stop being a moron and actually read the fucking thread before posting absolute nonsense ?
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 5:52 pm

Aurum_Sol wrote:
DarkChuky wrote:
Someone Test with another sword, to see if the STR bonus is added to the damage....

And if this Aila isn't bugged then I has been scammed by CB, I tuned mine to 40 str... and added 3 grapplers and didn't see any change.. (specially vs Haku, my izuna is doing more mele damage that Aila), My Ivis have less STR and is doing a lot more of damage (almost the same force in the sword)

will you stop being a moron and actually read the fucking thread before posting absolute nonsense ?

English isn't chuck's first language, but he tries. Don't be fucking dick.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 11:51 pm

The thread says it is undergoing testing, people keep saying they been scammed, what scam is this guys talking about anyway?
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyWed Dec 21, 2011 12:57 am

Retrias wrote:
The thread says it is undergoing testing, people keep saying they been scammed, what scam is this guys talking about anyway?
how many FULL alia's sword combo (hit - rightclick), we know some weapon split damage between quick slash
ex, elisa in aura mode 6hit -3 click, mine have 23 str with grap, should deal 45 damage/hit but NO, never anywhere near it, only 20-32 dmg/hit and second hit will deal 15-25 dmg (maybe TGH reduction), is this a scam ?
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyWed Dec 21, 2011 2:30 am

~All bots are at 24 STR~
-The force of all weapons is 30-

Alia:
Spoiler:

Ouka:
Spoiler:

Dead w/ Pilebunker:
Spoiler:

Dead w/ Metal Slayer:
Spoiler:

Dead w/ Morning Star:
Spoiler:

Dead w/ Halbard:
Spoiler:

God I have too much free time.
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyWed Dec 21, 2011 3:16 am

Puddin' wrote:


Nymph~ wrote:
maybe her sword split force/slash like elisa in aura mode do
Where's your SIG from brotastic?

Haa~n

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or the other way round.


Also,you overheard the GM's?

they be in female toirets?
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PostSubject: Re: Aila's Sword.   Aila's Sword. EmptyWed Dec 21, 2011 4:15 am

so, melee weapon is more complicated huh
34 force weapon on 22 str deal 31 damage lulz:
it should deal 45 damage so
31/45 = 0.688 = 69% damage
this one get 31% damage pinalty
i do understand it hit twice per click, and TGH will ceratinly killing it's damage like other melee
well, if both added it should get atleast proper damage tho :p

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