Can u use hopper Destructor CN?

Tried to make one based on really simple UC user without any rare stuff....well u will need 1x lvl5 limit remove, 1x lvl 8 limit remove, 2x shino exroad, 1xaccel saber, 1x victory 1, 1x Katana Max and 2x viper shields and the tune stuff but that´s gonna work out somehow^^

Spoiler:

Go ahead and make modifications....but I purely made this bot for ppl that play alot arena and less questmode and have as a result alot of uc compared to other rare stuff.

> using internals
> stealth system

wait wut?

With your size and lack of quick land, Destructor isn't reliable hopper, it works in a pinch and you can hop-troll a team if you can zone your opponents well and keep them in a good distance. But... eh, yeah, don't expect Amateus-tier effectiveness.

Spoiler:

This is a hopping Destructor on a good day.

And I'd honestly go with FLY if I were you, unless you can bump your wlk to 35, that is...

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Wait what? Core only? Now you are just fucking mad. Nevermind everything I've just said. PLAN CANCELLED.

Inb4 Sugu move this to questions section.

>topic

U cant escape from melee with that stat so i prefer no boost run and increase moar speed. And stealth system is....

^

Des CN.

Oh wait, CN, not standard.

Eh.

No Stun Regain on CN, 430 HP, 11 TGH, I seriously question the survivability of that thing, but hey, try it. But make sure you are going to have 35 wlk if you are not going to go with FLY.

160 ammo max with 2 internals, 3 shot each round... i dont think this goin efective for long combat... you goin run out ammo not so long after battle start...

not mention big supersize no matter small LG you try to put... that cannon top of his head seriously standout like sore thumb...

imo... sounds like offering free kill... dont just rely on the internal... it even not good for sniping despite having 390 range...

Yeah, you don't necessarily have to go with wlk if you want to short boost. Fly works as well. Here's a destructor vid from one of the top uc players:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN4zVcOQO_Y

tggt wrote:

Inb4 Sugu move this to questions section.

Guess I'm suguri.

Most "veterans" would see Stealth System and go WTF. It really is useless unless you: A) Have Sniper Sight or B) Have a long ranged weapon.

So yeah, don't use it.

Just as reVelske said, aim for 35 WLK. If there's something I see with a LOT of fat Arts, they're slow as molasses.

"most veterans" should learn to understand stealth system if they think what you write

also: b) bazooka 390 range

on topic:

look into other uc parts, accel arms with 3 slots from uc gara, kosmo kaiser head might net better results marril legs and booster are decent (was she uc? sorry if thats not the case)

i think people should just give it a try, stuff can work better then expected

Aurum_Sol wrote:

"most veterans" should learn to understand stealth system if they think what you write

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anyone who thinks stealth system is useless is practically an idiot in my books

on a destructor though it's understandable since he's fucking huge

Stealth system on a CN?
At least get sniper sight first...

Malphes wrote:

Aurum_Sol wrote:

"most veterans" should learn to understand stealth system if they think what you write

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anyone who thinks stealth system is useless is practically an idiot in my books

on a destructor though it's understandable since he's fucking huge

too big for hiding... even king megaton still can hide better than CN

BNOISE wrote:

Stealth system on a CN?
At least get sniper sight first...

CN doesnt have Sniper sight... unlike the original who have both, without it stealth system kinda useless except you really planning snipe very far using external sub weapon like howitzer, barrel LGJ, or Grand AM BS... since those ranged sub weapon even give white warning circle, it not give the direction it coming

Courius wrote:

BNOISE wrote:

Stealth system on a CN?
At least get sniper sight first...

CN doesnt have Sniper sight... unlike the original who have both, without it stealth system kinda useless except you really planning snipe very far using external sub weapon like howitzer, barrel LGJ, or Grand AM BS... since those ranged sub weapon even give white warning circle, it not give the direction it coming

I guess it's just a wasted cart then.
I mean it's bazooka doesn't have massive range even with both EIW carts.
I reckon it's either you pick both EIW and spam zooka or you pick stealth system and stick in a Grandum BS.

I have a clan mate who used to run a double viper hopping CN for the fun of it. It does work, but with how things are you may need to re-think the bot a bit.

Rinrin wrote:

> using internals
> stealth system

wait wut?

internals because of only core

reVelske wrote:

With your size and lack of quick land, Destructor isn't reliable hopper, it works in a pinch and you can hop-troll a team if you can zone your opponents well and keep them in a good distance. But... eh, yeah, don't expect Amateus-tier effectiveness.

Spoiler:

This is a hopping Destructor on a good day.

And I'd honestly go with FLY if I were you, unless you can bump your wlk to 35, that is...

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Wait what? Core only? Now you are just fucking mad. Nevermind everything I've just said. PLAN CANCELLED.

I wanted to use 2x viper because i experienced with untuned destructor that it helps alot with ecsape hopping backwards....what i often do.

PS: I can zone enemy bots perfectly^^ and if you can, i wouls like you to post another build here as for reference....cuz I didnt go too far with destructer hopper just got that idea because he has short boost^^

tggt wrote:

Inb4 Sugu move this to questions section.

>topic

U cant escape from melee with that stat so i prefer no boost run and increase moar speed. And stealth system is....

^

Des CN.

well I guess stun regain instead of stealth is reasonable sry for beeing a noob xD

the question on stun regain is, for me at least, is it worth? Because if it heals like 3 HP per stun I don´t need it for sure.

Astral_Goddess wrote:

tggt wrote:

Inb4 Sugu move this to questions section.

Guess I'm suguri.

can soeone tell me or post a link to that section...I can´t figure where it is cuz when I looked through there was no "Question Section" to click on.

Morishima wrote:

the question on stun regain is, for me at least, is it worth? Because if it heals like 3 HP per stun I don´t need it for sure.

Stun Regain in conjunction with Blast/Beam Guards will increase your survivability considerably, IMHO.

Look, we can probably give you some build ideas but... in the end of the day, there are far better options for a bazooka hopper, FAR FAR better options, you just gotta ask yourself... what are you wanting out of this?

thanks for so many replies...as you see on my build I am new to the game and after a while I realized that the most fun I have in game are making different bots and if I get a good one leave him in garage and junk bad ones^^

btw. fly is a good option not only for hopping but for escaping as well....it´s easier to avoid LNDs when you´re in air^^

When i get time on my hands i will modify this build and edit it under the first one^^

Btw. its really fun building bots with other people after giving a start noob bot you guys give good idea....my goal is (even though I got some rt stuff as well) to create a uc bot that can stand evenly with other op bots of them or even other categorys (like hopper and so on) and beeing something like a individual and not a copy of so many already made bots....that´s why I used destructor cn because accsel saber and so on are really often used^^.
One of the bots that was a succsess is my cute seraph summer crim with 40 fly....you can really haras ppl with that and with LPG and some skill you can easily compete with AG-User.
(that last sentence to give I better picture of my aim)

Cookie cutter builds become cookie cutter builds for a good reason. And it's respectable that you'd like to beat to your own drum in a way. But at some point you're going to have to look at your creations and say to yourself, "Would I really want to go my own way, and trade up possible effectiveness, or would you rather just go with a core "everyone uses" and try to personalize that?" This is a competitive game in essence, and a lot of us have efficacy in mind because hey, in the end, we're all competitive chumps looking for the best way to min-max effort and resources (including time here). To whether or not you're casual or hardcore competitive, it doesn't matter. If you weren't competitive to a degree you wouldn't be playing arena lawl.

If you want to really go your own way to prove yourself a point, then the CN hopper idea is fine. I was plannin to do this myself, but I was very annoyed on how his great zook could be outclassed easily in performance of other areas aside from weaponry. I can't have his zook on a LND, but I can sure have a similar zook with better mobility and survival options (I'm no longer strapped to 2 EIWs), and not to mention better capa, weapon tunes customizability for a similar playstyle.

You could also find similar bots with hopping abilities, but instead of zooks, add missiles (kanbara-esque Maril anyone?). You have a lot of options at your fingertips, and it's not a bad idea to utilize em.

ngelicdark wrote:

Cookie cutter builds become cookie cutter builds for a good reason. And it's respectable that you'd like to beat to your own drum in a way. But at some point you're going to have to look at your creations and say to yourself, "Would I really want to go my own way, and trade up possible effectiveness, or would you rather just go with a core "everyone uses" and try to personalize that?" This is a competitive game in essence, and a lot of us have efficacy in mind because hey, in the end, we're all competitive chumps looking for the best way to min-max effort and resources (including time here). To whether or not you're casual or hardcore competitive, it doesn't matter. If you weren't competitive to a degree you wouldn't be playing arena lawl.

If you want to really go your own way to prove yourself a point, then the CN hopper idea is fine. I was plannin to do this myself, but I was very annoyed on how his great zook could be outclassed easily in performance of other areas aside from weaponry. I can't have his zook on a LND, but I can sure have a similar zook with better mobility and survival options (I'm no longer strapped to 2 EIWs), and not to mention better capa, weapon tunes customizability for a similar playstyle.

You could also find similar bots with hopping abilities, but instead of zooks, add missiles (kanbara-esque Maril anyone?). You have a lot of options at your fingertips, and it's not a bad idea to utilize em.

yea I will do that, but I recently started to study at a university to get my teaching license (to become teacher for math and physics in "middle schools" well if it´s translated word for word its schoolyear 5 to 10) and I realized (since I travel 4 hours a day) that I really have no time at all. Sadly but true is that I will have to play Cosmic break on weekends and play 1 time area befor sleeping....well anyway I tried another zook instead of internal and it´s really better so I will change from Destructor (the one with sub missiles) cuz it´s more usefull on then the great zook.
If I get by chance some nice experience I will post it (if I don´t have questions on guide and if I have I will post it here again [hope it won´t be wrong section, cuz I got 2 strikes for not using question section which I can´t even find)

Well with that said I would like to say

~Case closed~

ngelicdark wrote:

Cookie cutter builds become cookie cutter builds for a good reason. And it's respectable that you'd like to beat to your own drum in a way. But at some point you're going to have to look at your creations and say to yourself, "Would I really want to go my own way, and trade up possible effectiveness, or would you rather just go with a core "everyone uses" and try to personalize that?" This is a competitive game in essence, and a lot of us have efficacy in mind because hey, in the end, we're all competitive chumps looking for the best way to min-max effort and resources (including time here). To whether or not you're casual or hardcore competitive, it doesn't matter. If you weren't competitive to a degree you wouldn't be playing arena lawl.

If you want to really go your own way to prove yourself a point, then the CN hopper idea is fine. I was plannin to do this myself, but I was very annoyed on how his great zook could be outclassed easily in performance of other areas aside from weaponry. I can't have his zook on a LND, but I can sure have a similar zook with better mobility and survival options (I'm no longer strapped to 2 EIWs), and not to mention better capa, weapon tunes customizability for a similar playstyle.

You could also find similar bots with hopping abilities, but instead of zooks, add missiles (kanbara-esque Maril anyone?). You have a lot of options at your fingertips, and it's not a bad idea to utilize em.

Nice thing is though, despite common belief there's a wide array of parts and cores that you can still make viable builds with.

...high-tier weapon selection is a completely different ballgame though.

It's a good thing the things everyone uses are shit 99% of the time
It's better to experiment and use the good things that people don't know are good