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PostSubject: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:21 pm

Amateus muchi:
Though muchi sucks in general, cben seems fond of them
Other carts and tunes are up to choice
Their play style is pretty simple:
DO NOT SPAM HOP
Short boost into flying and spam core
Occasional accele roll when in good/bad positions
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:24 pm

Alpha builds are a different story
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:37 pm

xzpwnz wrote:
Amateus muchi:
Though muchi sucks in general, cben seems fond of them
Other carts and tunes are up to choice
Their play style is pretty simple:
DO NOT SPAM HOP
Short boost into flying and spam core
Occasional accele roll when in good/bad positions

its because it counters every single robot that tends to hover above you and try to kill you?

you know. aquila girls, seraphs...

Muchi is amazing.
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:39 pm

Lol
If you say so
Though you can try a muchi against one of my airs
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:45 pm

jham muchi 4lyfe
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:46 pm

Nilla wrote:
jham muchi 4lyfe
2 moe capacity carts remove buckler and add jham Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:58 pm

No Rt to dedicate into tuning muchi too much.
Muchi > alba. Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:58 pm

xzpwnz wrote:
Lol
If you say so
Though you can try a muchi against one of my airs

Just cause you can beat it, doesn't make it worse of a bot against everyone else.
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:00 am

Intet wrote:
xzpwnz wrote:
Lol
If you say so
Though you can try a muchi against one of my airs

Just cause you can beat it, doesn't make it worse of a bot against everyone else.
Right, I almost forgot
Cben is slow to innovate
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:01 am

Antiair ANTILAND ANTI-EVERYTHING

Until you realize CV'd up enemies can't be bashed away.
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:04 am

xzpwnz wrote:
Lol
If you say so
Though you can try a muchi against one of my airs

it won't work against you

you have accele roll. insane stats on all your bots, and money to make the perfect anti Muchi bot. Not everybody can do this, infact. you are a select few out of maybe...10 people who can.

when I used to care about epoch, I always used to get shot down by amatues muchis using my buriden.

or at least have my altitude lowered. to the point where I was a free frag. if it didn't do enough damage to knock me out of the sky (with 30 tgh the blast still hits 56 on me)

Cori wrote:
No Rt to dedicate into tuning muchi too much.
Muchi > alba. Embarassed

I love my alba, death to everything in the sky unless you lag like crap

unless your babymaster, he RAN AWAY when he saw my alba, then when the game is over left the room, and I decided to play chasing games with him over 6 arena rooms.

He must really hate albas.

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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:07 am

A few facts:
You don't need accele roll to easily dodge a muchi main/sub
All the bots in my main garage (the bots I use) are unfinished (including fapping)
Most bots are already capable of defeating one, so I don't need to go out of my way just to make an anti muchi
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:09 am

The subweapon's only an answer to very fast airs (i.e. Seraph, Ah-chan, Shaden, burning targets with anti-burn). Against upper-tier fly bots, and even occasionally with Ah-chan, you can kill speed enough to slow down the explosion to the point where it's dodgeable.

The main weapon on the other hand is sugoi.
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:10 am

xzpwnz wrote:
A few facts:
You don't need accele roll to easily dodge a muchi main/sub
All the bots in my main garage are unfinished (including fapping)
Most bots are already capable of defeating one, so I don't need to go out of my way just to make an anti muchi

Muchi sub is based on how fast you are going. and seeing as how it has a lower explosion time as well, its kinda bad when you use a Shaden Booster.

I always get hit. Even when flying in a straight line. The only way I know off avoiding them is by using aquila girl's full boost at the last second, giving you just enough speed to get out.

also 'CBEN is slow to innovate'

It probably wouldn't be if you know, if they weren't selfish people running around who don't want to tell anybody anything. Unlike CBJP where builds are circulated regularly. leading to fantastic Competition.
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:14 am

People are making poor attempts at stealing builds off the wrong people
I'm just sharing a build like this because many people tend to use muchi
And you can easily counter muchi and my main garage bots too shade, it's just your play style with the bots you use are.... interesting
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:19 am

xzpwnz wrote:
People are making poor attempts at stealing builds off the wrong people
I'm just sharing a build like this because many people tend to use muchi
And you can easily counter muchi and my main garage bots too shade, it's just your play style with the bots you use are.... interesting

you mean not charging forward and dying?
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:20 am

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Muchi sub is based on how fast you are going. and seeing as how it has a lower explosion time as well, its kinda bad when you use a Shaden Booster.

I always get hit. Even when flying in a straight line. The only way I know off avoiding them is by using aquila girl's full boost at the last second, giving you just enough speed to get out.
I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. You're complaining about Muchi countering two of the three airs he's specifically meant to counter.
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:22 am

LordShade wrote:
xzpwnz wrote:
People are making poor attempts at stealing builds off the wrong people
I'm just sharing a build like this because many people tend to use muchi
And you can easily counter muchi and my main garage bots too shade, it's just your play style with the bots you use are.... interesting

you mean not charging forward and dying?
I mean using alba hd at its max range and actually expecting to hit anything with it
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:30 am

I always found muchi's main weapon to be the real issue when playing my airs. The range and speed make approach difficult.

CBEN is slow to innovate for several reasons including:

-Lack of creativity
-Little drive to develop skill
-People don't try to make something good. If something isn't obviously effective they won't try it. Leads to ability stagnation.
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:46 am

xzpwnz wrote:
LordShade wrote:
xzpwnz wrote:
People are making poor attempts at stealing builds off the wrong people
I'm just sharing a build like this because many people tend to use muchi
And you can easily counter muchi and my main garage bots too shade, it's just your play style with the bots you use are.... interesting

you mean not charging forward and dying?
I mean using alba hd at its max range and actually expecting to hit anything with it

you think I'm going to go into your face when you probably have a 40 TEC Genbura that was hitting 60's on my air and 50's on my artillery?

also he isn't complete

needs more tec and fly
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:49 am

LordShade wrote:
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you mean not charging forward and dying?
I mean using alba hd at its max range and actually expecting to hit anything with it

you think I'm going to go into your face when you probably have a 40 TEC Genbura that was hitting 60's on my air and 50's on my artillery?

also he isn't complete

needs more tec and fly
wat
Untuned genbura with 19 tec
Railgun is at a disadvantage at close range
Alba hd is at a advantage at close range
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 7:42 am

Intet wrote:
-People don't try to make something good. If something isn't obviously effective they won't try it. Leads to ability stagnation.
tell gm to stop garatrolling me, return me my mats from my tons of fail tunes, and give me 100% tunes.
then i'll try.
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 8:29 am

Rinrin wrote:
Intet wrote:
-People don't try to make something good. If something isn't obviously effective they won't try it. Leads to ability stagnation.
tell gm to stop garatrolling me, return me my mats from my tons of fail tunes, and give me 100% tunes.
then i'll try.

Pretty much this. For a game that prides itself on customization, CB sure is fond of kicking people pants. I mean, not only can your tunes fail, but they also lock the part you were trying to tune, which sucks especially when said part isn't easy to replace. Only way to avoid said occurrence is by buying over priced slot protectors that cost at least more than half the bot you're trying to tune, and even then, the tune can still fail, leaving you down 3 dollars and the time you spent collecting materials, can be quite a while depending on tune. If you want the ENCB population to experiment more, you going to have to decrease the risk it takes to experiment.
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 8:56 am

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you mean not charging forward and dying?
I mean using alba hd at its max range and actually expecting to hit anything with it

you think I'm going to go into your face when you probably have a 40 TEC Genbura that was hitting 60's on my air and 50's on my artillery?

also he isn't complete

needs more tec and fly

I can kill xz's genbu with my "cheap ripoff fapping" by going directly over it and shooting down.
The same tactic gets me raped when I face his Alba HD build.

You should know by now the best way to counter a railgun is to be fast and in its face, the only other bot that I can frag xz's genbu on is my laz.

Fapping is still 1000 years too early for me to frag.

Edit: I'm not sure what you've been doing shade but his genbu hits 30s on my land and 41 on my air. I just fought him yesterday btw.

hyorinryu wrote:
Rinrin wrote:
Intet wrote:
-People don't try to make something good. If something isn't obviously effective they won't try it. Leads to ability stagnation.
tell gm to stop garatrolling me, return me my mats from my tons of fail tunes, and give me 100% tunes.
then i'll try.

Pretty much this. For a game that prides itself on customization, CB sure is fond of kicking people pants. I mean, not only can your tunes fail, but they also lock the part you were trying to tune, which sucks especially when said part isn't easy to replace. Only way to avoid said occurrence is by buying over priced slot protectors that cost at least more than half the bot you're trying to tune, and even then, the tune can still fail, leaving you down 3 dollars and the time you spent collecting materials, can be quite a while depending on tune. If you want the ENCB population to experiment more, you going to have to decrease the risk it takes to experiment.

Slut protectors seem an unecessary part of the game mechanic, what they should have instead is a system to reset broken slots for a smaller fee than harmonics, because you already wasted tune mats failing.
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PostSubject: Re: Amateus muchi build   Amateus muchi build EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 10:26 am

tune uc parts

also, my jham muchi only has 1 tune on it, not counting the weapon

And again, muchi's sub is easy to dodge
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