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FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
| Subject: Cyclotes-need some advice. Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:05 pm | |
| I rolled a Cyclotes from the Royal Gara and immediately junk'd him.
I recently brought him back, and I've been having some moderate success with him. Are there any decent builds for him out there? Also, I was thinking of stripping Manly Byne and slapping his parts on Cyclotes to give him armor. Is this a good idea?
For reference, here's what my Cyclotes currently has:
【Robot Name】 Cyclotes
【Parts】 BD: Cyclotes BD WB: Dual Slayer Bit LG: Cyclotes LG HD: Cyclotes HD HDAC: Blue Flower FCAC: - BS: Cyclotes BS AM: Cyclotes AM2 AM: Cyclotes AM WP: Custom Magnum
【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK
【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: L COST: 990 CAPA: 1045 HP: 475 STR: 18 TEC: 8 WLK: 27 FLY: 9 TGH: 18
LEVEL: 3
【Cartridges】 Blast Guard Tough Runner Boost Run | |
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Nihil679 Regular Poster
Posts : 326 Join date : 2010-12-30 Age : 30 Location : Salt Factory
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:30 pm | |
| I don't think Tough Runner is actually useful. I could be wrong, but eh...
Drop the gun, give him a shield of any kind.
I'd flip parts around to get 21 TGH and some more WLK if you can, but I don't have the motivation to pull up calculator at the moment, sorry. 21 TGH because I heard it's a breakpoint, so might as well be safe since some of Cyc's parts lower TGH, shouldn't be hard to bring it up.
I'm not sure if you want to keep his slapping AM. It's great, but there's quite a long delay (longer than Squealer punch) and it's not like you can lock someone in with it. If you do, I want to recommend Squealer AM so you can zoom into people faster, but... ehh...
I think you can do better than Cyc AM on his BD. | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:34 pm | |
| He's got a godly core with the most base wlk out of any L land, make use of that, also, besides his massive arms and legs, I think his core is decently small. You could probably do something like a Jham or Dae AM2 build with his core. But get rid of those massive hitbox legs. | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:11 pm | |
| [ppl on jpcb give him k shield and big mountaniz legs
this is probly for lols =p | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:52 pm | |
| Treat him like a Daedalian with more mobility and less tgh, and build from there. | |
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FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:42 am | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- Treat him like a Daedalian with more mobility and less tgh, and build from there.
Can you elaborate? I don't know how to build a Daedalian or how to use one. So far, I've basically used this for melee rush attacking and a little ranged drive-by'ing, since I gave him Boost Run. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:31 pm | |
| Conveniently, I can't find that pic of asukuu's current build >_> Here's an older one with some (obvious) flaws: Keep the carts 40 tgh is top priority Get wlk to ~25-30 while keeping 1 fly Everything else goes to str | |
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FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:42 pm | |
| Few questions: -Should I keep 1 TEC if desired for WB use, or just tank it completely? -Can a War Hammer sub for JHam if I can't get a JHam? If this is possible, are there any changes to how I use Cyclotes in order to make WHam effective? -I already have something like 23~29 WLK and 7 FLY. Should I continue tuning WLK or should I try to improve both to increase my Boost Run speed?
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:58 pm | |
| - FireKiller87 wrote:
- Few questions:
-Should I keep 1 TEC if desired for WB use, or just tank it completely? -Can a War Hammer sub for JHam if I can't get a JHam? If this is possible, are there any changes to how I use Cyclotes in order to make WHam effective? -I already have something like 23~29 WLK and 7 FLY. Should I continue tuning WLK or should I try to improve both to increase my Boost Run speed?
-I'd say tank it, unless you can reach the aforementioned stats with 1 tec intact. -Warhammer's only really viable if you have float dash, imo. Only bots with float dash that can use a Warhammer are Katana Max, Date Max, Hogroid, and Beetlander. -Oh right, forgot Cyclotes' high wlk would make a difference :V Um, not really sure. I guess I haven't looked over Cyclotes' core and potential stats much. | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:42 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- Conveniently, I can't find that pic of asukuu's current build >_> Here's an older one with some (obvious) flaws:
- Keep the carts
- 40 tgh is top priority
- Get wlk to ~25-30 while keeping 1 fly
- Everything else goes to str
THAT RICH ASS HOLE THOSE TUNES >_< | |
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Nisa God Poster
Posts : 7152 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 27
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:31 pm | |
| QQ moar boytitan.
alternatively,you can strap on 2 squealer arms for a easily acessible NSR build (no skill required) | |
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FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:10 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- FireKiller87 wrote:
- Few questions:
-Should I keep 1 TEC if desired for WB use, or just tank it completely? -Can a War Hammer sub for JHam if I can't get a JHam? If this is possible, are there any changes to how I use Cyclotes in order to make WHam effective? -I already have something like 23~29 WLK and 7 FLY. Should I continue tuning WLK or should I try to improve both to increase my Boost Run speed?
-I'd say tank it, unless you can reach the aforementioned stats with 1 tec intact. -Warhammer's only really viable if you have float dash, imo. Only bots with float dash that can use a Warhammer are Katana Max, Date Max, Hogroid, and Beetlander. -Oh right, forgot Cyclotes' high wlk would make a difference :V Um, not really sure. I guess I haven't looked over Cyclotes' core and potential stats much. Alright...any other melee weapons I can use? Looked up my Cyclotes' stats. 27 WLK, 9 FLY. Personally, I'd actually go for High Speeder tuning for this guy, especially since Cyclotes has pretty good starting capacity(his capa UP carts suck though, only adding +40 capa and 7 HP). Here's a potential melee rush build I'm considering. It does involve a lot of tuning, but I think the reward might be worth the effort. Unfortunately, I can't use Cyclotes AM for this, but Red Squealer AM replaces it. Otherwise, stock Cyclotes. Viper Shield conceals Red Squealer AM's Impact Punch attack until it's too late for the target to evade the attack. High TGH + Tough Runner almost negates the chance of my being stunned while Boost Run is active. 【Robot Name】 Cyclotes 【Parts】 BD: Cyclotes BD WB: Dual Slayer Bit LG: Cyclotes LG [High Speeder] [High Speeder] [High Speeder] HD: Cyclotes HD [High Tough Beta] [High Speeder] [High Power Alpha] HDAC: Blue Flower [Great Power Alpha] FCAC: Intelli Green [High Speeder] BS: Cyclotes BS [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta] AM: Red Squealer AM [Great Grappler Alpha] [High Tough Beta] [High Power Alpha] WP:Viper Shield [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta] AM: Cyclotes AM [High Tough Beta] [High Tough Beta] WP: - 【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK 【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: L COST: 1295 CAPA: 1295 HP: 515 STR: 24 TEC: 4 WLK: 28 FLY: 11 TGH: 35 LEVEL: 10 【Cartridges】 Capacity +50×5 Blast Guard Stun Regain Tough Runner Boost Run Quick Boost 【必要素材】 Fudara Cosmos×10 Midoro Cosmos×1 Yoguru Cosmos×5 Threede Cosmos×1 Blue Chip×40 Yellow Chip×60 Green Chip×40 Rainbow Chip×55 Power Amp×35 Engine Shaft×165 Turbo Charger×165 Brake Damper×40 Strike Metal×20 Shock Graphite×25 Snail Liquid×180 Hard Plate×24 EDIT: Also, a mobility-minded Cyclotes. 35 WLK, 14 FLY puts me in the 2nd fastest Boost Run speed tier, which makes me kind of serious about this build. Tunes can be spread out to maximize chance of success. 22 TGH, 5 TEC, and 24 STR give Cyclotes some balance. Viper Shield can be replaced with a ranged weapon if I so desire. Lower TGH increases my chance of stun, but high Boost Run speed will allow me to close the distance quickly. 【Robot Name】 Cyclotes 【Parts】 BD: Cyclotes BD WB: Dual Slayer Bit LG: Cyclotes LG [High Speeder] [High Speeder] HD: Cyclotes HD [High Speeder] [High Speeder] HDAC: Blue Flower [High Power Beta] FCAC: Intelli Green [Great Tough Beta] BS: Cyclotes BS [High Speeder] AM: Cyclotes AM2 [High Power Beta] AM: Cyclotes AM [High Power Beta] WP: Viper Shield 【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK 【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: L COST: 1295 CAPA: 1295 HP: 510 STR: 24 TEC: 5 WLK: 35 FLY: 14 TGH: 22 LEVEL: 10 【Cartridges】 Capacity +50×5 Blast Guard Stun Regain Tough Runner Boost Run Quick Boost 【必要素材】 Fudara Cosmos×3 Midoro Cosmos×1 Yoguru Cosmos×5 Blue Chip×15 Yellow Chip×15 Green Chip×30 Rainbow Chip×55 Power Amp×15 Engine Shaft×165 Turbo Charger×165 Brake Damper×13 Shock Graphite×9 Snail Liquid×165 Hard Plate×7 In both builds, the shield can be replaced with a ranged weapon, allowing Cyclotes some flexibility. 5 TEC doesn't hurt ranged damage overly, and also allows me longer use of my Dual Slayer Bit, adding to my melee damage. EDIT2: On the mobility build, Red Squealer AM can replace Cyclotes AM(gives me 75 cost to tune more STR, TGH, and one High Speeder for buffer) and/or Cyclotes AM2(replacing both gives me 40 cost, so I probably won't replace both). I will probably replace the Cyclotes AM and increase TGH(two tunes to negate High Speeder while still keeping me in red Boost Run tier, bringing me to 26 TGH) and STR(most of my remaining cost, 20 cost remaining, so likely two High Power Alphas to conserve my mobility, bringing my STR to 28 and TEC to 3, which still isn't bad). Here is my envisioned mobility Cyclotes build, with Red Squealer AM subbed for Cyclotes AM. 【Robot Name】 Cyclotes 【Parts】 BD: Cyclotes BD WB: Dual Slayer Bit LG: Cyclotes LG [High Speeder] [High Speeder] HD: Cyclotes HD [High Speeder] [High Speeder] HDAC: Blue Flower [High Power Beta] FCAC: Intelli Green [Great Tough Beta] BS: Cyclotes BS [High Speeder] [High Tough Beta] [High Power Alpha] AM: Red Squealer AM [High Power Beta] [High Tough Beta] [High Power Alpha] WP: - AM: Cyclotes AM [High Power Beta] [High Speeder] WP: Viper Shield 【Config Check】 COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK 【Stats】 TYPE: 陸 SIZE: L COST: 1295 CAPA: 1295 HP: 515 STR: 27 TEC: 3 WLK: 35 FLY: 15 TGH: 26 LEVEL: 10 【Cartridges】 Capacity +50×5 Blast Guard Stun Regain Tough Runner Boost Run Quick Boost 【必要素材】 Fudara Cosmos×7 Midoro Cosmos×1 Yoguru Cosmos×6 Blue Chip×35 Yellow Chip×25 Green Chip×40 Rainbow Chip×66 Power Amp×33 Engine Shaft×198 Turbo Charger×198 Brake Damper×23 Shock Graphite×23 Snail Liquid×198 Hard Plate×13 Any thoughts?
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piroton Regular Poster
Posts : 316 Join date : 2010-07-12 Age : 29 Location : Sick and at home.
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:08 pm | |
| - boytitan2 wrote:
- Suguri wrote:
- Conveniently, I can't find that pic of asukuu's current build >_> Here's an older one with some (obvious) flaws:
- Keep the carts
- 40 tgh is top priority
- Get wlk to ~25-30 while keeping 1 fly
- Everything else goes to str
THAT RICH ASS HOLE THOSE TUNES >_< Boytitan, you retard, this was a Beta Build. There WAS no RT. | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:51 pm | |
| - piroton wrote:
- boytitan2 wrote:
- Suguri wrote:
- Conveniently, I can't find that pic of asukuu's current build >_> Here's an older one with some (obvious) flaws:
- Keep the carts
- 40 tgh is top priority
- Get wlk to ~25-30 while keeping 1 fly
- Everything else goes to str
THAT RICH ASS HOLE THOSE TUNES >_< Boytitan, you retard, this was a Beta Build. There WAS no RT. this game ahd a beta ??? | |
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ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:50 pm | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 25 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:00 am | |
| - boytitan2 wrote:
- piroton wrote:
- boytitan2 wrote:
THAT RICH ASS HOLE THOSE TUNES >_< Boytitan, you retard, this was a Beta Build. There WAS no RT. this game ahd a beta ??? Two betas, in fact. | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:08 am | |
| And 2 (or was it 1) weeks of mini-beta. | |
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FireKiller87 Ace Poster
Posts : 1708 Join date : 2011-03-08 Location : Blowing FC Seraph out of my airspace
| Subject: Re: Cyclotes-need some advice. Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:04 am | |
| - ngelicdark wrote:
- Well..looks like BT learns something new everyday.
Anyway, here's a link to that page with Asukuu's build:
https://cosmicbreak.forumotion.com/t4567p15-how-do-you-acknowledge-a-player-s-skill
Should be somewhere in the middle of that page.
Otherwise yeah, build big TGH, WLK, STR, great grappler on the AM2, and then run around and wreak havoc. Then after wreaking havoc FLEEEEEE ....TO COME BACK ANOTHER DAY! How2get Dae AM2 and/or JHam? | |
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