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Nihil679 Regular Poster
Posts : 326 Join date : 2010-12-30 Age : 30 Location : Salt Factory
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:14 pm | |
| - Lazyboy804 wrote:
- Nisa wrote:
It's moe.
and my fencer does 170 dmg Hardly a good reason. Shouldn't the 15 foot tall living armery be able to out damage a 10 year old girl? No, not in a game that advertises moe mecha action. Here's the thing about most melee being "OP" though. A majority of the time, they are forced to rush in and go through all hell to kill something, unless they're the defender kind that whacks away enemy rushers. This calls for pretty much the entire enemy team on your ass. I find that rather balanced, because it means putting your neck out to kill things, as opposed to something like Aquila Girl, who can stay in the air forever and rain hell on you while being rather safe. Toybox Girl, her cruise missiles are amazing, too amazing, they deal high damage, large AoE, high stun rate, and capable of launching herself back away at long range. EVE, again, long ranged, high damage, rather safe, even has a shield, even if it "sucks" to some people. That's why I'm rather reluctant to call any kind of melee bot "OP" right off the bat. Sure, there's bippusuta's build with the Cart Step -> Dae AM that deals a lot of damage and sends you flying away so he can safely run away, but if it misses, it's a lot of damage you could do to him then. | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:15 pm | |
| It's more about an exclusive garapon bot being compared to a shop rt bot | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:44 pm | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- It's more about an exclusive garapon bot being compared to a shop rt bot
The stats don't stack up. Toybox regular does 41->43->45 damage, TBG does 30->33->36. What's happening is probably you're getting hit by 2 of them at once. | |
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IronFist Adept Poster
Posts : 502 Join date : 2011-04-07
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:48 pm | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- It's more about an exclusive garapon bot being compared to a shop rt bot
to who use RT . . . u can consider this. to who use UC . . man, its inevitable to compare UC to RT gara OP bots. (what, in fact, show the real power of the OP bot because RT shop bots also have advantage over UC bots but they arent that OP against UC bots, just some advantages, as expected) | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:05 pm | |
| There are plenty of op uc bots | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:14 pm | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- There are plenty of op uc bots
I can only think of seraph and UC gara nicole malice atm. Not sure if Accel Saber counts. | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:16 pm | |
| - Hyoka wrote:
- xzpwnz wrote:
- There are plenty of op uc bots
I can only think of seraph and UC gara nicole malice atm.
Not sure if Accel Saber counts. You just listed 2 Though nicole can't come anywhere near op | |
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IronFist Adept Poster
Posts : 502 Join date : 2011-04-07
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:23 pm | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- There are plenty of op uc bots
and whats your definition of OP??? Nicole isnt that OP as u cant remove her AMs and lol, Accel Saber as hopper??? 1st, its needed a lot of skill to do something with it as hop hop isnt for everyone 2nd, it dont have a massive damage weapon, neither incredible homming or range, no great stun also u cant set a shity tom of weapons to it . . . no sir, sorry but no OP bot at UC . . . again, whats your definition of OP??? | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:25 pm | |
| - IronFist wrote:
- xzpwnz wrote:
- There are plenty of op uc bots
and whats your definition of OP???
Nicole isnt that OP as u cant remove her AMs
and lol, Accel Saber as hopper??? 1st, its needed a lot of skill to do something with it as hop hop isnt for everyone 2nd, it dont have a massive damage, neither incredible homming or range, also u cant set a shity tom of weapons to it . . .
no sir, sorry but no OP bot at UC . . .
again, whats your definition of OP??? "Though nicole can't come anywhere near op" And yes, there are op uc bots You just don't notice them and/or don't know how to play | |
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IronFist Adept Poster
Posts : 502 Join date : 2011-04-07
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:27 pm | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- IronFist wrote:
- xzpwnz wrote:
- There are plenty of op uc bots
and whats your definition of OP???
Nicole isnt that OP as u cant remove her AMs
and lol, Accel Saber as hopper??? 1st, its needed a lot of skill to do something with it as hop hop isnt for everyone 2nd, it dont have a massive damage, neither incredible homming or range, also u cant set a shity tom of weapons to it . . .
no sir, sorry but no OP bot at UC . . .
again, whats your definition of OP??? "Though nicole can't come anywhere near op" And yes, there are op uc bots You just don't notice them and/or don't know how to play really??? so list it. or u really think Izuna is OP because of that piece of shit bombarding (edit: low damage, the homming dont hit targets moving fast and it just deal some damage if all shots hit, or else its just a joke of a damage). . . I know how to play with it but anyone with ART, and dont even need to be OP ART, can bring me down if the guy know where to be and know how to aim . . OP bots like TBG dont even allow me to get close enough to be bombarding Accel Saber OP??? seriously, I think u`re too afraid of both Izuna and Accel Saber if that is whats up to your mind . . . | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:29 pm | |
| - IronFist wrote:
- xzpwnz wrote:
- IronFist wrote:
and whats your definition of OP???
Nicole isnt that OP as u cant remove her AMs
and lol, Accel Saber as hopper??? 1st, its needed a lot of skill to do something with it as hop hop isnt for everyone 2nd, it dont have a massive damage, neither incredible homming or range, also u cant set a shity tom of weapons to it . . .
no sir, sorry but no OP bot at UC . . .
again, whats your definition of OP??? "Though nicole can't come anywhere near op" And yes, there are op uc bots You just don't notice them and/or don't know how to play really??? so list it.
or u really think Izuna is OP because of that piece of shit bombarding (edit: low damage, the homming dont hit targets moving fast and it just deal some damage if all shots hit, or else its just a joke of a damage). . . I know how to play with it but anyone with ART, and dont even need to be OP ART, can bring me down if the guy know where to be and know how to aim . . OP bots like TBG dont even allow me to get close enough to be bombarding
Accel Saber OP??? seriously, I think u`re too afraid of both Izuna and Accel Saber if that is whats up to your mind . . .
have you seen xz's accel saber no you havent | |
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pipcard Regular Poster
Posts : 162 Join date : 2011-02-26
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:30 pm | |
| By the way, what's that weapon that shoots tons of arrows? I think it's OP. | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:31 pm | |
| >Izuna suddenly came into the conversation Well yeah, izuna is also one And as for me listing them - xzpwnz wrote:
- Find out yourself
I won't spoon feed you at your leisure | |
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IronFist Adept Poster
Posts : 502 Join date : 2011-04-07
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:31 pm | |
| - knyx wrote:
- IronFist wrote:
- xzpwnz wrote:
"Though nicole can't come anywhere near op" And yes, there are op uc bots You just don't notice them and/or don't know how to play really??? so list it.
or u really think Izuna is OP because of that piece of shit bombarding (edit: low damage, the homming dont hit targets moving fast and it just deal some damage if all shots hit, or else its just a joke of a damage). . . I know how to play with it but anyone with ART, and dont even need to be OP ART, can bring me down if the guy know where to be and know how to aim . . OP bots like TBG dont even allow me to get close enough to be bombarding
Accel Saber OP??? seriously, I think u`re too afraid of both Izuna and Accel Saber if that is whats up to your mind . . .
have you seen xz's accel saber no you havent is it PURE UC (parts and weapons) ??? also, just because it hop dont mean its OP - xzpwnz wrote:
- >Izuna suddenly came into the conversation
Well yeah, izuna is also one And as for me listing them
- xzpwnz wrote:
- Find out yourself
I won't spoon feed you at your leisure and I was right . . u guys too afraid of little shity weapons because taking damage and having a hard target to hit make OP bots to move and not just spam right click . . . omg, is that why u consider Izuna OP? | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:33 pm | |
| >I said anything that hops is op If you really don't notice the reason why accel saber and izuna is then you have no hope in finding the other op uc bots easily and should just quit while you can because your ass will never close again in higher tier rooms | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:35 pm | |
| haha you really are that desperate aren't you, too afraid of being laughed at so you put on that tough guy look
nou cant read my poker face | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:37 pm | |
| If you define OP as having an advantage, and limit to UC, some cores are:
Victory 1 Lily Rain Seraph Izuna Accel Red Squealer Destructor Destructor CN Anything that hops. | |
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IronFist Adept Poster
Posts : 502 Join date : 2011-04-07
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:38 pm | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- >I said anything that hops is op
If you really don't notice the reason why accel saber and izuna is then you have no hope in finding the other op uc bots easily and should just quit while you can because your ass will never close again in higher tier rooms lol . . . I think u`re just trying to find an excuse to say the OP gara bots arent OP . . . because . . . Izuna can be boring with that bombard but its just that. if u die to Izuna doing it, its either because u`re using LND or because u`re a noob. about hop . . . I agree hop hop make them hard as hell to hit and create a lot of confusion at the enemy team, but its not like they have OP weapons or OP parts just because they hop . . . its your definition of whats OP that is wrong. to do it good with either Izuna or Accel Saber is needed a lot of skill . . . its not like anytime u hit u do 100 damage to the face or just a right click spam and work is done like the OP gara bots . . thats being OP, not something that is skill based to be OP. | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:38 pm | |
| I'm not telling you because I'm afraid or anything It's just so blatantly obvious that I feel no need to tell you Do your parents still hold your hands when you cross a street? | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:45 pm | |
| Fight or massacre? (because he wouldn't kill me once) Above comment was meant for Emeraldsun who apparently removed his If you're that stupid to not have figured it out yet bots are op because of their core -What parts they can/can't use or can use more than one of -Internal weapons -All base statistics -Cartridges
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:46 pm | |
| What makes those bots overpowered compared to other UC bots is either that they have good stats(Accel) or a unique core ability(Izuna's vanishing jump). If you notice the bots I listed they follow those two things above.
Also, realized why this whole shitfest started, I facedesk'd.
If you think a 1v1 will solve anything, all it will do is incite more rage from Iron about RT bots, which xz will obviously troll him with. | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:46 pm | |
| - Trill wrote:
- If you define OP as having an advantage, and limit to UC, some cores are:
Victory 1 Lily Rain Seraph Izuna Accel Red Squealer Destructor Destructor CN Anything that hops. I haven't seen the potential in Izuna, though the rest of the bots I wholeheartedly agree. | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:47 pm | |
| - Trill wrote:
- What makes those bots overpowered compared to other UC bots is either that they have good stats(Accel) or a unique core ability(Izuna's vanishing jump).
If you notice the bots I listed they follow those two things above.
Also, realized why this whole shitfest started, I facedesk'd.
If you think a 1v1 will solve anything, all it will do is incite more rage from Iron about RT bots, which xz will obviously troll him with. The guy's a joke He uses wing amj and I doubt pays attention to things like stats I'd troll him with stock uc bots Btw, I just listed the reasons as to what makes a bot op -What parts they can/can't use or can use more than one of -Internal weapons -All base statistics -Cartridges
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:48 pm | |
| - Trill wrote:
- What makes those bots overpowered compared to other UC bots is either that they have good stats(Accel) or a unique core ability(Izuna's vanishing jump).
If you notice the bots I listed they follow those two things above.
Also, realized why this whole shitfest started, I facedesk'd.
If you think a 1v1 will solve anything, all it will do is incite more rage from Iron about RT bots, which xz will obviously troll him with. If ironfist can use any of his Rt bots and xz uses only UC bots all this can be settled, unless ironfist really is a gigantic baby in which case will rage after being beaten down by UC bots. | |
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knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Overpowered bots Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:49 pm | |
| PS xz pwn ironfist with destructor heatgun arms. | |
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