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Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:04 am
boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:20 am
Darkmare wrote:
wat did u get bad ????????????????????
Darkmare Regular Poster
Posts : 156 Join date : 2011-03-13 Age : 28
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:28 am
boytitan2 wrote:
Darkmare wrote:
wat did u get bad ????????????????????
Giant ugly L air bot. You don't think its bad cause you're boytitan.
boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:11 am
Darkmare wrote:
boytitan2 wrote:
Darkmare wrote:
wat did u get bad ????????????????????
Giant ugly L air bot. You don't think its bad cause you're boytitan.
U got 2 k shields u got geograssis the best L sized air in cosmic break what the hell is your problem
Darkmare Regular Poster
Posts : 156 Join date : 2011-03-13 Age : 28
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:17 am
boytitan2 wrote:
Darkmare wrote:
boytitan2 wrote:
wat did u get bad ????????????????????
Giant ugly L air bot. You don't think its bad cause you're boytitan.
U got 2 k shields u got geograssis the best L sized air in cosmic break what the hell is your problem
Wut.
RoboFranky Ace Poster
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:18 am
Darkmare wrote:
boytitan2 wrote:
Darkmare wrote:
Giant ugly L air bot. You don't think its bad cause you're boytitan.
U got 2 k shields u got geograssis the best L sized air in cosmic break what the hell is your problem
Wut.
lets see that outmatch my Baltheon against EVE
Intet Adept Poster
Posts : 825 Join date : 2010-10-02
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:29 am
RoboFranky wrote:
Darkmare wrote:
boytitan2 wrote:
U got 2 k shields u got geograssis the best L sized air in cosmic break what the hell is your problem
Wut.
lets see that outmatch my Baltheon against EVE
Blitz blaster, the shield buster.
RoboFranky Ace Poster
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:35 am
Intet wrote:
RoboFranky wrote:
Darkmare wrote:
Wut.
lets see that outmatch my Baltheon against EVE
Blitz blaster, the shield buster.
kay I need 1 of that
Moritsuna Newbie
Posts : 40 Join date : 2011-04-25
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:00 am
All I know is unless there's something gamebreaking I won't be rolling garapon again:
For example if bots were in "tiers"
If Ivis is SS tier I'm not gonna spend possibly 500$ (if she comes out in garapon) just to get her when I can use an A tier Mighty Byne for land
The cost to benefit ratio for the chance to get a slightly better bot is NOT worth it IMO. (Come on I heard some people spend 1000$ for eve?)
So much things I could do with $1000 then having a good bot on CB. Honestly shouldn't spend for garatroll unless you're hardcore AND rich.
fhoeng Regular Poster
Posts : 365 Join date : 2011-02-08
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:48 pm
Moritsuna wrote:
hardcore AND rich.
if one is hardcore AND rich... might as well just e-mail cyberstep and say "hey I want a bot with ____ and ____ so i can pwnt ____ i will pay $2000 for this commission".
boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:38 pm
fhoeng wrote:
Moritsuna wrote:
hardcore AND rich.
if one is hardcore AND rich... might as well just e-mail cyberstep and say "hey I want a bot with ____ and ____ so i can pwnt ____ i will pay $2000 for this commission".
thanks for the idea bro funny thing is cs would probly listen
RoboFranky Ace Poster
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:29 am
Kay Ive done 3 5x rolls and lotsa 1x rolls 5x roll = NO GOLD 1x roll = 4 golds atm
Problem Boytitan?
ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:10 am
I've never done a 5x roll in RT gara,
But my 1x roll in GARA unit 1 gave me a Shaden.
RoboFranky Ace Poster
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:59 am
ziix wrote:
I've never done a 5x roll in RT gara,
But my 1x roll in GARA unit 1 gave me a Shaden.
nice my 1x roll in RT gara 1 gave me a Soljetter
my 5x roll in RT gara 1 gave me: 2 Shine Battlers (Crappiest thing u can get there >_>) 1 Jack Gadget 2 (Found its LG to be useful, all else is crap) 1 Sigma Clock (Hop hop hop, SLOW PILLAR, hop hop) 1 Pile Bunker (Isn my Byne enuf? >_> )
I got no gals from SUGOI tho hell, my Geograsis Type F just got no1 after its first test run at lvl 0
knyx Grand Poster
Posts : 3028 Join date : 2010-07-11 Age : 911
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:39 pm
RoboFranky wrote:
hell, my Geograsis Type F just got no1 after its first test run at lvl 0
Geo is godly, about 500 free capa at level 0 omfg and those base stats 4/15/8/18/11.
Midona Adept Poster
Posts : 608 Join date : 2010-09-25 Age : 34
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:55 pm
knyx wrote:
RoboFranky wrote:
hell, my Geograsis Type F just got no1 after its first test run at lvl 0
Geo is godly, about 500 free capa at level 0 omfg and those base stats 4/15/8/18/11.
This. Fat stats and cost capacity are fat !
Shimapan Newbie
Posts : 87 Join date : 2011-03-06
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Tue May 03, 2011 8:25 pm
I had the same thought about x5 rolls vs four 1x rolls. Lets say the rate is the same, and the ball is based on rolling the superfly.
with the x5 rolls you have 1 chance of getting superfly, meanwhile with x1 rolls you have 4 chances to get superfly. I've only done x5 rolls and from what I remember only getting 1 gold ball out of each x5 when superfly, which leads me to think, what if I do x1 four times and get 2/4 gold balls. I would have 1 extra gold ball over if I did x5 roll.
Now the real question is what are the chances of getting multiple gold balls in a x5 roll compared to multiple gold balls in x1 roll. If the the x5 roll has the same chance of getting a gold ball for each of the 5 balls then doing x5 would be better but from rolling x5 it doesn't seem that way.
RoboFranky Ace Poster
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Tue May 03, 2011 10:20 pm
Shimapan wrote:
I had the same thought about x5 rolls vs four 1x rolls. Lets say the rate is the same, and the ball is based on rolling the superfly.
with the x5 rolls you have 1 chance of getting superfly, meanwhile with x1 rolls you have 4 chances to get superfly. I've only done x5 rolls and from what I remember only getting 1 gold ball out of each x5 when superfly, which leads me to think, what if I do x1 four times and get 2/4 gold balls. I would have 1 extra gold ball over if I did x5 roll.
Now the real question is what are the chances of getting multiple gold balls in a x5 roll compared to multiple gold balls in x1 roll. If the the x5 roll has the same chance of getting a gold ball for each of the 5 balls then doing x5 would be better but from rolling x5 it doesn't seem that way.
in the end, it depends on u I'm guessing some players have all the gold ball luck in 5x roll some, like me have all the luck in 1x roll
5x roll is GUARENTEED to give me at least 1 lowest silver bot got 2 Shine Battlers from gara 1 and 2 Marills from weekly ffffffuuuuu 1 Geograsis from SUGOI, I REALY wudn mind 2
A superfly on 1x roll is 80% guarenteed to gimme a gold, so yeah 1x roll all the way from now onwards maybe thats just me
who else got godly 1x roll luck?
Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Tue May 03, 2011 11:28 pm
I really think it's just Sugoi where the x5 rolls are absolute shit.
Every other Garapon usually gives me at least 2.
Multiple times Sugoi doesn't even give me 1. Then it does, and it's another Pacifar. Why can't it at least be the regular Pacifar? Beam gun AM>Beam Rifle AM in my opinion. I never use these things.
I've also gotten car crash at least 5 times on Sugoi x5 rolls.
Asagi-san Regular Poster
Posts : 434 Join date : 2011-04-28 Age : 30 Location : The City of Angels, CA
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Tue May 03, 2011 11:56 pm
Raven wrote:
NumeroDoS wrote:
Raven wrote:
Though I have noticed when you get Superfly on a x1 roll, you're pretty much GUARANTEED a gold.
If this is real, I would start looking at UC Garas in a whole new way.
Just speaking from experience on the RT garas. Quite literally, EVERY time I get a Superfly on a x1 roll I end up with a gold. Same with my clanmates.
I got an Izuna from the Shitgoi gara with a Superfly using a 1x roll.
Looks like the rules.... just got screwed....
But then again, this is the Shitgoi gara we're talking about. You're probably doomed to get a Shino regardless of the roll you get.
ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Wed May 18, 2011 9:51 am
Just to throw this out there, but could there be lag issues when rolling for super bunnies?
I've noticed how whenever I rolled early in the morning before work/school, I always got that. But if I tried to do it later that evening or night, when my traffic is a hell lot more congested, I can barely do it. Not without altering when I click it.
Asagi-san Regular Poster
Posts : 434 Join date : 2011-04-28 Age : 30 Location : The City of Angels, CA
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Wed May 18, 2011 11:33 am
Lag shouldn't be an issue when rolling the garatrolls, so you should be good.
Unless it somehow WERE to affect rolls... if that's the case, I'll blame that for my shit luck.
ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Wed May 18, 2011 11:37 am
The way I see it, the only way time can affect the rolls is through affecting the RNG as someone said. Generally RNGs are tied to time; every second spawns a new seed with a different outcome. In some games like Pokemon, you can actually pick apart the RNGs and set it so that you get exactly what you want. Fire Emblem also has it that you can manipulate the RNG a bit, but not in such an extreme a case.
RNG manipulation though is looked down upon though. But it's a lot harder than you'd think it be to do.
Asagi-san Regular Poster
Posts : 434 Join date : 2011-04-28 Age : 30 Location : The City of Angels, CA
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Wed May 18, 2011 11:43 am
Well, Raven and I have found out that rolling at 8:30 to 9:30 PM server time gives you shit rolls. This is just a hypothesis though, since rolling during that time to our perspective gets you some car crashes and derpwalks.
This RNG whatever factor, lemme tell ya....
ngelicdark Adept Poster
Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-04-04 Age : 33
Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Wed May 18, 2011 12:04 pm
Yeah that's the thing, I don't know if it's because we missed the spot for super bunny because of the time, or because it's lag. Cuz I'm pretty sure my timing's pretty good on the most part. The thing is, it never shows up as..that stupid bunny.. goddammit.