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Havok Regular Poster
Posts : 150 Join date : 2010-12-18 Age : 33 Location : The Canadian Wilderness
| Subject: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:40 am | |
| This may be a really stupid question but I am gonna ask it anyway. lol
Overall is it better to roll x5 rolls due to getting one of them free if you are going for gold bots?
Or just do one roll 4 times on different dates, once again going for more uncommon bots.
I am assuming x5 is overall better but I have been thinking lately. I got both my Fencer and Frau via single rolls when x5 gave me mostly garbage.
Of course its very likely it's just coincidence. After all it is a gambling machine.
Anyone actually know which way is better for uncommon bots? | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:40 am | |
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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:42 am | |
| IDK up to you.
If you think you'll get supafly in 5x roll, go for it.
Otherwise, 1x.
Unless of course the bots you want aren't gold >.> | |
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Havok Regular Poster
Posts : 150 Join date : 2010-12-18 Age : 33 Location : The Canadian Wilderness
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:45 am | |
| Alrighty thanks for the answers, was just curious if it really was coincidence. | |
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:46 am | |
| If you want a weapon or something, do a x1 for sure.
Though I have noticed when you get Superfly on a x1 roll, you're pretty much GUARANTEED a gold. And lately my superfly x5 have been getting me 1 gold or none anyway, so what's the difference? | |
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NumeroDoS Adept Poster
Posts : 705 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:25 am | |
| - Raven wrote:
Though I have noticed when you get Superfly on a x1 roll, you're pretty much GUARANTEED a gold. If this is real, I would start looking at UC Garas in a whole new way. | |
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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:26 am | |
| - NumeroDoS wrote:
- Raven wrote:
Though I have noticed when you get Superfly on a x1 roll, you're pretty much GUARANTEED a gold. If this is real, I would start looking at UC Garas in a whole new way. I bet it only works in RT garapwn. | |
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:27 am | |
| - NumeroDoS wrote:
- Raven wrote:
Though I have noticed when you get Superfly on a x1 roll, you're pretty much GUARANTEED a gold. If this is real, I would start looking at UC Garas in a whole new way. Just speaking from experience on the RT garas. Quite literally, EVERY time I get a Superfly on a x1 roll I end up with a gold. Same with my clanmates. | |
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NumeroDoS Adept Poster
Posts : 705 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:29 am | |
| Hoho, this pretty much makes up my mind of what kind of rolls I'll be doin' for Sugoi-Gara.
/inb4 I get trolololol | |
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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:31 am | |
| - Raven wrote:
- Just speaking from experience on the RT garas. Quite literally, EVERY time I get a Superfly on a x1 roll I end up with a gold. Same with my clanmates.
I'd say the chance is higher. | |
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Raven Adept Poster
Posts : 946 Join date : 2010-12-29
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:33 am | |
| - NovaZero wrote:
- Raven wrote:
- Just speaking from experience on the RT garas. Quite literally, EVERY time I get a Superfly on a x1 roll I end up with a gold. Same with my clanmates.
I'd say the chance is higher. Well it makes sense logically, since it's taking the chance and putting it into one ball. As opposed to a x5, which is splitting that chance among the 5 balls. But then again, it's Garapon. Logic doesn't apply here. | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:35 am | |
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RoboFranky Ace Poster
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:44 am | |
| 1x roll is more likely to get derpwalk than 5x
Ive never gotten anything but superfly on 5x No gold from it tho :/
I got my first and only gold from a 1x roll after 4 fail 1x rolls
its just random roll the wheel, prepare to get trolled | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:46 am | |
| *Facepalm* x5 is the same as rolling x1 5 times | |
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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:47 am | |
| - xzpwnz wrote:
- *Facepalm*
x5 is the same as rolling x1 5 times I thought rolling 5x was cheaper | |
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xzpwnz Legendary Poster
Posts : 4686 Join date : 2010-06-05 Age : 110
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:53 am | |
| - ziix wrote:
- xzpwnz wrote:
- *Facepalm*
x5 is the same as rolling x1 5 times I thought rolling 5x was cheaper Yeah, because you get 1 more roll for free ....Just read this - Etherlight wrote:
- ...man, all this wishful thinking. (゜へ゜);
5x does not guarantee superfly. 1x does not guarantee the random number generator will be nicer to you.
random chance is random.
the advantage 1x has is that if you get lucky on that one roll you can stop.
the advantage 5x has is that if you plan to do more rolls it will cost you less in the long run.
Of course it's magically rigged, because you didn't get exactly what you wanted, right? It's not that a larger range of possible balls (that's what getting the superfly means by the ways) means the chance of the one or two balls you wanted coming up was reduced, right? herp derp. | |
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Rinrin Ace Poster
Posts : 1619 Join date : 2011-03-18 Location : Koko ni Iru Yo!
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:02 am | |
| although it is claimed that the rate is the same, ur not a gm so u never noe. as u noe, cs likes to troll us.
they may have made it 40 rt cheaper in exchange for lesser gold rate, and ppl do not noe they did it, thus spamming x5 and not getting what they want, and spending more money while cs laughs at us.
comparing wat i got with all my 5x, to wat my frenz got with 1x, id say 1x gives much better stuff but who knows... | |
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boytitan2 Fishell
Posts : 8639 Join date : 2010-12-23 Age : 31 Location : Buffalo NewYork
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:04 am | |
| 5x rolls and 5 x rolls only k bye | |
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RoboFranky Ace Poster
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:15 am | |
| - boytitan2 wrote:
- 5x rolls and 5 x rolls only k bye
I won't be so sure bout that All my 5x rolls yield 2x junk bots (Marill from 1st weekly and Shine Battlers from RT 1) my last 1x roll in RT 1 yield a Soljeter, my first and only gold ball after 3 1x rolls in SUGOI yielded Shino, Amateus and Combat Mag now, I can charge bout 320 RT next weekend just enuf for 2 5x rolls or 8 1x roll of course a total of 10 rolls will give me more stuff but I'm afraid It'll be like my other 5x rolls maybe I shud mix it and do 9 rolls altogether? | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:25 am | |
| Im not sure..
the question is: getting a superman animation gives yuo better drop??
then if u get it for a 5 roll... u will have 5 rolls with better chance... but if no then only use is the extra free roll...
but also works if u get a car animation (worst).... 5 bad rolls is a problem....
1x will change the bonus on each run, it have its value...
I must say that I prefer the extra free roll....
the sugoi gara have the worst rate.... 5 super man roll can give you all brown ball a no one gold... also amateus and magnuns is like stack.... xD.... T_T no byne no agila... | |
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Hyoka Gaming Molcars
Posts : 4996 Join date : 2010-06-18 Age : 25
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:12 pm | |
| - DarkChuky wrote:
- Im not sure..
the question is: getting a superman animation gives yuo better drop??
then if u get it for a 5 roll... u will have 5 rolls with better chance... but if no then only use is the extra free roll...
but also works if u get a car animation (worst).... 5 bad rolls is a problem....
1x will change the bonus on each run, it have its value...
I must say that I prefer the extra free roll....
the sugoi gara have the worst rate.... 5 super man roll can give you all brown ball a no one gold... also amateus and magnuns is like stack.... xD.... T_T no byne no agila... If you don't get superman animation you never get Gold balls, generally speaking. | |
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DarkChuky Adept Poster
Posts : 981 Join date : 2011-03-18 Age : 44 Location : Costa Rica
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:11 pm | |
| - Hyoka wrote:
- DarkChuky wrote:
- Im not sure..
the question is: getting a superman animation gives yuo better drop??
then if u get it for a 5 roll... u will have 5 rolls with better chance... but if no then only use is the extra free roll...
but also works if u get a car animation (worst).... 5 bad rolls is a problem....
1x will change the bonus on each run, it have its value...
I must say that I prefer the extra free roll....
the sugoi gara have the worst rate.... 5 super man roll can give you all brown ball a no one gold... also amateus and magnuns is like stack.... xD.... T_T no byne no agila... If you don't get superman animation you never get Gold balls, generally speaking. TROLL GARAPON!!!!! troll byne and agila girl... >.< | |
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RoboFranky Ace Poster
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2011-01-28 Age : 32 Location : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:54 pm | |
| - Hyoka wrote:
- DarkChuky wrote:
- Im not sure..
the question is: getting a superman animation gives yuo better drop??
then if u get it for a 5 roll... u will have 5 rolls with better chance... but if no then only use is the extra free roll...
but also works if u get a car animation (worst).... 5 bad rolls is a problem....
1x will change the bonus on each run, it have its value...
I must say that I prefer the extra free roll....
the sugoi gara have the worst rate.... 5 super man roll can give you all brown ball a no one gold... also amateus and magnuns is like stack.... xD.... T_T no byne no agila... If you don't get superman animation you never get Gold balls, generally speaking. I rarely get gold with a superman. Is it just me? | |
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Etherlight Regular Poster
Posts : 156 Join date : 2010-10-07
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:39 pm | |
| - Rinrin wrote:
- although it is claimed that the rate is the same,
ur not a gm so u never noe. as u noe, cs likes to troll us.
they may have made it 40 rt cheaper in exchange for lesser gold rate, and ppl do not noe they did it, thus spamming x5 and not getting what they want, and spending more money while cs laughs at us.
comparing wat i got with all my 5x, to wat my frenz got with 1x, id say 1x gives much better stuff but who knows... I typically roll superfly on RT Gara, I haven't actually kept track, but it's a pretty high percentage, probably something like 80-90% of the time. I always get at least one gold ball, and have gotten up to five gold balls. Following the random ass reasoning here, I would say 'zomg x5 is always superfly and always gibs golds'...except that's not true, because I know this is just stupidly lucky since I have indeed gotten car crash/derp walk a few times. They don't NEED to 'rig the chance on x5,' the Garapon system already is set so that getting a gold ball is the most difficult to get according to probability. It's one in three to get superfly in the first place, then one gold ball out of however many balls total in the Garapon to get that one gold you want. DarkChuky: If I recall correctly, derp walk enables everything up to bronze to be selected. Car crash enables everything up to silver. Superfly enables everything up to gold. You can't get gold without superfly animation, but that doesn't guarantee you'll get a gold. Robo: That's just probability at work. If you're not planning on doing many rolls, and would rather gamble repeatedly, x1 rolls. If you think you can handle the big gamble, and the possible agony of failure, x5. Just a random thought, but I really hate how troll is a faddy phrase now. People seem to like to use the word troll way too much. Yes, they must be doing this with malicious intent because they like to see you suffer. | |
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zachie69 Regular Poster
Posts : 139 Join date : 2011-02-21 Age : 31 Location : Philippines
| Subject: Re: x5 rolls vs four x1 rolls? Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:15 pm | |
| i never knew that animation has anything to do with it. now i wont be able to watch it the same way again... | |
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