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+7FullThrottle Jello Shance Midona Vallyel Crosocka Xynno 11 posters |
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Xynno Newbie
Posts : 67 Join date : 2011-01-13
| Subject: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:49 pm | |
| Did I forget the F on purpose? Yes, yes I did. I'm really can't find any real usefulness in lazflame. When compared to the other land bots she just dosn't stack up well, unless she was super tuned. Her only redeeming trait is hit high knockback kick combo which can be interrupted quite easily. She is also rather slow for a land unit. Anyone have any ideas what weapons to use on her and how she should be played properly. | |
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Crosocka Newcomer
Posts : 13 Join date : 2010-01-01 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:14 pm | |
| Well IMO, Lazflame's booster sucks for melee, so if your going to melee with her just equip jikun legs or a sword;but most people I played with used her as a hopper (since she has Quick Land, Quick Jump, Short Boost and Boost Run cartrigdes) equiped with a shield,bazooka,magnum, drum gun etc. the usual weapons that most hoppers use. | |
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Vallyel Regular Poster
Posts : 324 Join date : 2010-12-02
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:15 pm | |
| lol who need stats when you have skill , put a random gun on her and go get 1st , it isn't hard | |
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Midona Adept Poster
Posts : 608 Join date : 2010-09-25 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:16 pm | |
| Morgenstein, Jikun legs, and here you go ~ | |
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Shance Ace Poster
Posts : 1537 Join date : 2010-12-28 Age : 944
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:22 pm | |
| I'm using an unmodified Lazflamme unit, and not that I defend it, but her BS melee kick is actually nice. It may not have the consecutive combos that Jikun LG has, but when the melee hits, it catapults enemies away (I mean really, far, far away) and puts them off lockon and balance. Perfect for dispersing people camping at the PS, but only good if you have people who can actually back you up while you do it (WIZ people, I'm looking at you ). | |
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Crosocka Newcomer
Posts : 13 Join date : 2010-01-01 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:39 pm | |
| - Shance wrote:
- I'm using an unmodified Lazflamme unit, and not that I defend it, but her BS melee kick is actually nice. when the melee hits, it catapults enemies away (I mean really, far, far away) and puts them off lockon and balance. Perfect for dispersing people camping at the PS
Wouldn't Beetlander Head be more useful for that? | |
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Shance Ace Poster
Posts : 1537 Join date : 2010-12-28 Age : 944
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:40 pm | |
| Well, it's two hits, and is usable as a tackle in midair. | |
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Jello Regular Poster
Posts : 395 Join date : 2010-06-19
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:43 pm | |
| - Crosocka wrote:
Wouldn't Beetlander Head be more useful for that? Beetlander head really is only useful if you have the big head joint...or was that the big body joint? eh...either or... | |
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FullThrottle Adept Poster
Posts : 799 Join date : 2010-11-19 Location : 京都、日本
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:25 pm | |
| - Crosocka wrote:
- Well IMO, Lazflame's booster sucks for melee
someone doesn't know how to use Laz's booster. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 26 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:56 pm | |
| Lazflamme has bad base stats, but her advantage is in the fact that since she comes with a second bs slot and an expensive bs, she has lots of core capacity to compensate. If you don't want to build her for melee, you can remove her default BS and pile on two others with lower cost and higher stats, and you have lots of room for tuneups, speaking in terms of both cost and available slots. I think my laz has something like 19 tec without tuning right now, and I'm sure I could get it higher with the newer parts I've gotten since. It's also worth noting that Lazflamme Rush's BS is a 3-hit combo with 18 force, which does make for some nice melee damage.
By the way, is it possible to get slotted laz legs without RT? | |
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Jello Regular Poster
Posts : 395 Join date : 2010-06-19
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:08 pm | |
| Or...you can just rip the legs off of her and put it on a bot that has higher base stats. | |
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FullThrottle Adept Poster
Posts : 799 Join date : 2010-11-19 Location : 京都、日本
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:09 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- By the way, is it possible to get slotted laz legs without RT?
I'm pretty sure this is a no but don't take my word for it. | |
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Suguri God Poster
Posts : 7765 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 26 Location : Japan
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:44 pm | |
| - Jello wrote:
- Or...you can just rip the legs off of her and put it on a bot that has higher base stats.
But you won't have as much capacity to work with in most cases. The end stats would probably look relatively similar, but the fact is she has the spare capacity to have her less-than-stellar base stats to be altered however you want. Kind of going off-topic with this, but the same thing applies to Tesladonna. People tend to look at her as a bad bot with bad parts, but the fact is all her base parts are expensive and can be switched out. Looking at the core alone, she has 15 more capacity to work with than a seraph that was promoted at level 10, without having to waste the 250k on level removers and the promotion itself, let alone the time it takes to get the initial crim from level 1 to 10. EDIT: ...actually, I guess I'm wrong about that. For comparison purposes, here's what you have for spare capacity with several of the bots I have in my garage atm (based completely on the core). Lily Rain: 215 Jikun Long: 235 Maril March: 235 Lazflamme: 240 Seraph Crimrose (promoted at level 10): 290 Tesladonna: 305 Medi Aide: 340 | |
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Jello Regular Poster
Posts : 395 Join date : 2010-06-19
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:32 pm | |
| - Suguri wrote:
- Jello wrote:
- Or...you can just rip the legs off of her and put it on a bot that has higher base stats.
But you won't have as much capacity to work with in most cases. The end stats would probably look relatively similar, but the fact is she has the spare capacity to have her less-than-stellar base stats to be altered however you want. Kind of going off-topic with this, but the same thing applies to Tesladonna. People tend to look at her as a bad bot with bad parts, but the fact is all her base parts are expensive and can be switched out. Looking at the core alone, she has 15 more capacity to work with than a seraph that was promoted at level 10, without having to waste the 250k on level removers and the promotion itself, let alone the time it takes to get the initial crim from level 1 to 10.
EDIT: ...actually, I guess I'm wrong about that. For comparison purposes, here's what you have for spare capacity with several of the bots I have in my garage atm (based completely on the core).
Lily Rain: 215 Jikun Long: 235 Maril March: 235 Lazflamme: 240 Seraph Crimrose (promoted at level 10): 290 Tesladonna: 305 Medi Aide: 340 That's all higher/lower free capacity offset by the higher base stats. Higher the base stats, the less amount of tuning you have to do. The less amount of tuning you have to do, the less amount of free capacity you need. Mostly every bot when it comes to stats per capacity ratio are pretty much all balanced. Of course some have a little bit more free capacity and some have a bit lower. But they're all about the same. Though that is if you're sticking with the stock parts. You can always use other parts to get the best "bang for your buck". That is if you have the massive amounts of money to tune...All-in-all the only thing that's different about each individual bot is the body size, internal weapons, how many useful cartridges it has, and the looks. TL;DR I agree on the account that hypothetically everyone can leisurely tune up their bots to the maximum. But that's not really the case anymore so everyone should really go for higher base stated BDs to not waste as much money. | |
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BNOISE Ace Poster
Posts : 1216 Join date : 2011-01-08 Age : 33 Location : Home
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:43 am | |
| Magic Staffs! Yeah I just put on one of those fire staff and a shield. It does some nice damage cause the range is ok. But she is basically hopper playstyle with a different weapon equipped. Short boost, but her leg kick thing is cool to use every now and then. | |
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necrio Master Poster
Posts : 2134 Join date : 2010-11-09
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:57 am | |
| to melee with laz, you need lances
you poke and you pierce and you kick them with your BS.
seriously that BS works with a lance. | |
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Shance Ace Poster
Posts : 1537 Join date : 2010-12-28 Age : 944
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:39 am | |
| Didn't know that. Guess I should give it a try
JOUSTING HORSES FTW | |
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necrio Master Poster
Posts : 2134 Join date : 2010-11-09
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:47 am | |
| - Shance wrote:
- Didn't know that. Guess I should give it a try
JOUSTING HORSES FTW Laz flamme is the daughter of that centaur UC bot in the store XD | |
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Shance Ace Poster
Posts : 1537 Join date : 2010-12-28 Age : 944
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:11 am | |
| And that centaur bot has been actually made into a female by Koko Gaap. Gelbooru says so. | |
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NovaZero Grand Poster
Posts : 3141 Join date : 2010-06-14 Location : Bouncing on one of the Hurricane Arrows at Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:51 am | |
| - necrio wrote:
- to melee with laz, you need lances
you poke and you pierce and you kick them with your BS.
seriously that BS works with a lance. Least we know why her default weapons included a Spear. | |
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necrio Master Poster
Posts : 2134 Join date : 2010-11-09
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:54 am | |
| - NovaZero wrote:
- necrio wrote:
- to melee with laz, you need lances
you poke and you pierce and you kick them with your BS.
seriously that BS works with a lance. Least we know why her default weapons included a Spear. exactly why I put a lance on her in the first place my RPG dumbass train of thought automatically puts weapons to characters according to their starter equipments little did I know that that actually worked | |
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Shance Ace Poster
Posts : 1537 Join date : 2010-12-28 Age : 944
| Subject: Re: Lazlame anyone know how to use her properly? >.> Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:12 am | |
| Not to mention Lances and her BS have a lot of reach.
I'm beginning to actually like Lazflamme now. | |
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