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PostSubject: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySat Jan 15, 2011 8:13 pm

You know all those weapons that no one ever seems to use like handy magnum, handgun, auto magnum? Aside assualt rifle and custom gun, are there are shell weapons even any good? I was thinking of making a bot that using shell based weapons due to the fact not that many people have invested into shell defense.

Any suggestions comments?
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySat Jan 15, 2011 8:18 pm

Drumgun and rifles are good shell based weapons. Magnums ain't bad either...
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySat Jan 15, 2011 8:20 pm

Also, not many people invest in shell defense because its a measly 10% reduction when compared to the 30%+ reductions on the other types
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySat Jan 15, 2011 8:23 pm

Accelguns are pretty useful. I run an accelgun/micro zooka combo on both my Medi Aide and C.S. with positive results.
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySat Jan 15, 2011 9:48 pm

What baffles me is that according to the stats, accelgun and machinegun bullets travel faster than a laser beam... In actual play, I just don't see how that translates.

Is bullet speed unrelated to tracking speed or what?
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySat Jan 15, 2011 10:07 pm

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What baffles me is that according to the stats, accelgun and machinegun bullets travel faster than a laser beam... In actual play, I just don't see how that translates.

Is bullet speed unrelated to tracking speed or what?

I think the speed on the laser only applies to it's initial shot? Or maybe it's the interval in which they will be damaged? There has to be some reason @_@
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 12:30 am

Use Handy magnum if you are tight on the cost,Military gun is a good alternative although it doesnt have much ammo
and one of the best shelled guns would be accel gun.
Don't even bother with drum gun or rage MG
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 12:49 am

Hmmm accel guns huh I'll try those thank you

(edit) is blind found them
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 1:03 am

Sort of can't wait for Folded Rifle AMJs/Gun Arm Mod/Armed Build Arm to come out.

Then my dream of a Rifle spamming Lily will be closer to reality.
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 1:23 am

Shells are universal wep, it can hit average dmg on all type.
i use shotgun to blast fat art, mostly die within 5-8sec if i can keep it pin.
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 2:05 am

What do you guys think about the Eight Vulcan?

It kills pretty fast and I use it on a ranged LND build, Cosmos Kaiser with Steel Rider +6 wlk legs/Victory HD, etc.

The problem is it runs out of ammo really fast and kind of weighs the bot down to ~20-22 wlk despite all the upgrades.

Any suggestions or should I just stick to it?
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 2:11 am

8, 9, and 10 vulcans are dumb and JP meta is centered around vulcan hoppers.
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 2:22 am

What do you suggest instead?
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 2:28 am

if you can't beat the Japanese, join them. Build a vulcan hopper.
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 3:09 am

FullThrottle wrote:
if you can't beat the Japanese, join them.

im ditching my vulcan hoppers once this wep from JP comes to EN
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 3:14 am

:O what weapon do you speak of? o.o
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 6:52 am

NovaZero wrote:
Sort of can't wait for Folded Rifle AMJs/Gun Arm Mod/Armed Build Arm to come out.

Then my dream of a Rifle spamming Lily will be closer to reality.

Then ivis and jhammer gets released at the same time.
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 3:38 am

stop killjoy someone dream already Tae.
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 4:59 am

Hand Mag, Single Gun, Accel Gun, Custom Gun, Drum Gun, even Auto Gun... they're strong, reliable and their damage isn't negated by a cart. If you think no one is using them, look closer.
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 5:54 am

auto guns aren't that good Fenix :/
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 6:56 am

They are when they give +1 walk yah?

Anyway, I have bots that use Shell Guard. Just not a lot of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 1:55 pm

so they give +1 walk, big fucking deal. They don't do shit damage wise.
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PostSubject: Re: Shell based weapons question   Shell based weapons question EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 4:58 am

Hyoka wrote:
They are when they give +1 walk yah?

Anyway, I have bots that use Shell Guard. Just not a lot of them.

may useful against Shotgun, but heck 10% ain't that much.
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