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AhegaoMaster 野獣先輩
Posts : 3335 Join date : 2013-08-07
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:43 am | |
| - LazFlamme wrote:
Lala DID got a buff, and it's called Anna. Anna is an insult to lala you can fuck off. | |
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Maelstrom Chased By Police
Posts : 4840 Join date : 2014-10-14 Age : 29 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:53 am | |
| I never liked Lala to be honest...
And I still want Ana! | |
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LazFlamme (?) About Bastagant
Posts : 3099 Join date : 2013-06-17 Age : 24 Location : Ground Area
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:59 am | |
| - AhegaoMaster wrote:
- LazFlamme wrote:
Lala DID got a buff, and it's called Anna. Anna is an insult to lala you can fuck off. B-but Anna heals...!
Laika's TEC is done, now needs some speed... | |
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Shidokun Denied Abbey
Posts : 994 Join date : 2015-04-06 Location : The land of Nether
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LazFlamme (?) About Bastagant
Posts : 3099 Join date : 2013-06-17 Age : 24 Location : Ground Area
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CxM SeeSaw Molcar
Posts : 709 Join date : 2015-07-19 Age : 29 Location : if i'm lagging i'm home, if not i'm at the library.
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:01 pm | |
| - Maelstrom wrote:
- I just follow the meta standards when tuning hp, there's
no much to do wrong...
For example, everyone knows that the current standard hp for melees is something between 700 - 800...
@off
shit, I can't find the gisele/serieux cosmic bar radio video on cs youtube channel anymore, lol... huh really? i'm usually at 570 what about other types? | |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:21 pm | |
| Most of my melees are below 600 HP what the hell gave the standard of 700+ | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:46 pm | |
| If you used to have abt. 600 HP on your melees, you will end up with 700 after armor drive :^)
If I look at my Prome she could have abt. 700, if I would finish her. My Ivis has ca. 650 without any proper build.
...and then there is my purple Amlim who bests all of my melees in terms of HP together with Misty Capacityren and Munya, the girl who took the wrong drive. 700 HP isn't that unusual, if you actually like said unit enough to go through drive levels. | |
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Maelstrom Chased By Police
Posts : 4840 Join date : 2014-10-14 Age : 29 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:53 pm | |
| if you are below 600 on a melee you must be lazy or you are simply not tuning it right...
Yes, I am talking about a drived melee... | |
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That_Wiesel_Guy Legendary Poster
Posts : 4551 Join date : 2011-08-09 Age : 431
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:04 pm | |
| Most of my melee don't break 600 because I make it work and I'm not capa tuning to the moon to fit more hp | |
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Sakura1 Crab
Posts : 5579 Join date : 2013-06-25 Location : Bad Cake I hope u choke on watermelons
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:19 pm | |
| I normally get around 600-700 hp on everything i use with or without armor drive | |
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Astral_Dono 野獣先輩
Posts : 7875 Join date : 2011-06-10 Age : 30 Location : Mars
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:47 pm | |
| - That_Wiesel_Guy wrote:
- Most of my melee don't break 600 because I make it work and I'm not capa tuning to the moon to fit more hp
Plus I run boost drives on my melees, not armor drives, excluding Bapho and Daed | |
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Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
Posts : 11444 Join date : 2011-01-07 Age : 36 Location : Back on the No-Tomorrow-Lane
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:07 am | |
| Idk if anyone is capa tuning for HP at this point. You get so much HP as a secondary effect. Capa tunes are more about fitting in your favorite weapon tunes, or making your bot a meme. I.e.: I did a gcapa on my Amlim and now I can wield the Dreamy Blood Shooter - or at least that's why I use them. | |
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Maelstrom Chased By Police
Posts : 4840 Join date : 2014-10-14 Age : 29 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:44 am | |
| - That_Wiesel_Guy wrote:
- Most of my melee don't break 600 because I make it work and I'm not capa tuning to the moon to fit more hp
Me neither, I just have a single vanilla capa on my Killica because she also have red tier boost run and anti-homo bits besides the over 700 hp... Damn! I don't even like capa tuned builds at all... | |
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LazFlamme (?) About Bastagant
Posts : 3099 Join date : 2013-06-17 Age : 24 Location : Ground Area
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:45 am | |
| - That_Wiesel_Guy wrote:
- Most of my melee don't break 600 because I make it work and I'm not capa tuning to the moon to fit more hp
Honestly I thought the whole point of tuning melees is to reach at least 600 HP without capa, and probably somewhere around 800 with drives. | |
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aosepsa 용개형 보고있지? EE!!
Posts : 1595 Join date : 2013-11-26
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:14 am | |
| you don't reach 800 even with armor drive if your max is 600... I don't know where you are getting that idea. speaking of non-capa tuned melee... currently driving, take out +30 HP and you see what I get from this new toy. | |
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Frizz Busted
Posts : 2029 Join date : 2012-04-12 Age : 37 Location : Angel Academy
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:41 am | |
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LazFlamme (?) About Bastagant
Posts : 3099 Join date : 2013-06-17 Age : 24 Location : Ground Area
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:46 am | |
| - aosepsa wrote:
- you don't reach 800 even with armor drive if your max is 600... I don't know where you are getting that idea.
MINIMUM 600. Usually it means around 700, more or less. And yes, with armor drive it means close to 800. | |
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Maelstrom Chased By Police
Posts : 4840 Join date : 2014-10-14 Age : 29 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:53 am | |
| - LazFlamme wrote:
- aosepsa wrote:
- you don't reach 800 even with armor drive if your max is 600... I don't know where you are getting that idea.
MINIMUM 600. Usually it means around 700, more or less. And yes, with armor drive it means close to 800. would be more more accurate to say between 700 ~ 800 | |
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Trill Grand Poster
Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 912
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:32 pm | |
| HP has been really meta for a while now. I can't actually pinpoint what marked the shift, but coming back to what feels like a really burst-oriented meta now, HP/eHP feels even more valuable than when I last popped in. I'd definitely consider 480~550 to be a standard for even long ranged units IMO. Any less and you start restricting the dynamics your bot can safely work in.
Melees and mid/close ranged units are a bit more fuzzy though I'd say. Guard carts, shields, barriers, buffs that reduce damage, higher TGH values, etc. get more common, so their eHP rises despite what their HP value actually reads. I'd probably say for a bot with the average amount of these, 600~ is probably a good standard. For the units I've gotten around to inspecting, atleast. Of course, more isn't a bad thing if you can get it.
Past a certain point for most bots you run the choice of gaining offensive capabilities (weapon tunes, mobility options, etcetera) vs HP/eHP. Which is the more valuable choice then changes based on the bot and build, so it's likely a contextual standard. IMO. | |
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Sakura1 Crab
Posts : 5579 Join date : 2013-06-25 Location : Bad Cake I hope u choke on watermelons
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:57 pm | |
| I think the change started happening around Eris/Resha meta
and then after they started making gens a bit more common with disc and boxes so yea i believe around that time | |
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That_Wiesel_Guy Legendary Poster
Posts : 4551 Join date : 2011-08-09 Age : 431
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:29 pm | |
| It happened when ex tunes became a thing | |
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Samui Armed Teddy
Posts : 833 Join date : 2012-02-19
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:43 am | |
| - Ghost Raider:
I remember why I stopped using Charge Beam Cannon. The beam animation doesn't always land in the same spot where the actual projectile does which can get frustrating especially during mid-air dash.
- V.Unken:
It's not done but all it needs are Ex Hi-Technique/Ex Hi-Boost tunes and x3 High Air Force on the legs due to the slight lack of ammo in my opinion.
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:27 pm | |
| How's my Crescent Saint coming along? I finally got a RAM Soljetter LG to make him awesome! |
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Sakura1 Crab
Posts : 5579 Join date : 2013-06-25 Location : Bad Cake I hope u choke on watermelons
| Subject: Re: Show off your Garage/Bot/Part/Weapon/Gameplay/etc(?) Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:41 pm | |
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