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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:30 pm
lets change some word , his mindset is broken
because he cant kill specific shet or got killed a lot by that , so he say those bots are broken
yes most of modern melee have cv main weps like winty mention
DH only make eris more harder to hit , but thats not mean she's invincible
God is a Cat Girl Guinea Pig Wearing Sweater
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:59 pm
Winty wrote:
someone01 wrote:
Then lets give all robots in game hide so they can go invisible when about to die and wings to defend.
Since those are totally not good.
you fucking read? most melee already have something that does the same shit as wings. if we gave everyone dark hide I honestly wouldn't give a fuck because honestly it's not that good
so yeah. let's do it. It wouldn't make any difference. I've described to you the weakness of these things repeatedly.
The only reason most people are even going back to using dark hide is that they can active hide during last stand invulnerability frames and then try to run away but 50% of the time someone will just AoE them down anyway since have the shit in the game has strong AoE attacks which are really good at fucking over dark hide.
here lemme fucking list off as many melees as I can that have a main weapon that blocks bullets and gives them CV(the shit that wings does):
1. eris 2. sylvia 3. elisalotte glanz 4. prome 5. Lunastacia 6. sylvia paladin 7. killica(hers has additional functions) 8. captain sunny 9. corona 10. lumeria(this isn't even a fucking melee) 11. ouka scarlet 12. ouka BF 13. Kuhl(hers has additional functions) 14. mikoto 15. vanessa 16. meisen kaede 17. abyss jikun hu 18. Alcy(this is a fucking air)
if I wanted to go through the garapon history and remember every fucking melee that has this feature the list would be a lot longer, I'm pretty sure I could get over 30.
here's a handy website to help you with your inability to read: hookedonphonics.com
Didn't the previous feature gara or so had an art mecha that has guard+CV main in an unlocked AM? I didn't check if the AM can go on anything or if it's one of those that only fit a single bot (too much shit open right now to check).
But yeah, there's a whole lot more than has that guard (moe or mecha), almost every new melee has it this days (except mecha).
Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:18 pm
Gyallanbard has a main weapon parry. Renny Lop DEALER comes with one to (not sure if conversion restrictions though).
Fleur Adept Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:28 pm
Winty wrote:
someone01 wrote:
Then lets give all robots in game hide so they can go invisible when about to die and wings to defend.
Since those are totally not good.
you fucking read? most melee already have something that does the same shit as wings. if we gave everyone dark hide I honestly wouldn't give a fuck because honestly it's not that good
so yeah. let's do it. It wouldn't make any difference. I've described to you the weakness of these things repeatedly.
The only reason most people are even going back to using dark hide is that they can active hide during last stand invulnerability frames and then try to run away but 50% of the time someone will just AoE them down anyway since have the shit in the game has strong AoE attacks which are really good at fucking over dark hide.
here lemme fucking list off as many melees as I can that have a main weapon that blocks bullets and gives them CV(the shit that wings does):
1. eris 2. sylvia 3. elisalotte glanz 4. prome 5. Lunastacia 6. sylvia paladin 7. killica(hers has additional functions) 8. captain sunny 9. corona 10. lumeria(this isn't even a fucking melee) 11. ouka scarlet 12. ouka BF 13. Kuhl(hers has additional functions) 14. mikoto 15. vanessa 16. meisen kaede 17. abyss jikun hu 18. Alcy(this is a fucking air)
if I wanted to go through the garapon history and remember every fucking melee that has this feature the list would be a lot longer, I'm pretty sure I could get over 30.
here's a handy website to help you with your inability to read: hookedonphonics.com
That's a lot of cursing.
Man, some people get really, really angry when told a certain robot is broken.
Just to be clear, you are 100% sure eris is not broken, right?
DavidRain Despairing Abbey
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:30 pm
Zwiebel Force wrote:
Gyallanbard has a main weapon parry. Renny Lop DEALER comes with one to (not sure if conversion restrictions though).
I thought he only had a Primary Wep Guard? (I only have the first one, the one with the hammer so IDK) Parry is like the main wep that counters melee and gives them powerless beta right, like Killica and Captain Sunny?
exoakutsu Adept Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:34 pm
DavidRain wrote:
Zwiebel Force wrote:
Gyallanbard has a main weapon parry. Renny Lop DEALER comes with one to (not sure if conversion restrictions though).
I thought he only had a Primary Wep Guard? (I only have the first one, the one with the hammer so IDK) Parry is like the main wep that counters melee and gives them powerless beta right, like Killica and Captain Sunny?
Parry is a special type of guard that grants cv and if a melee hits you while you are using parry, your opponent flies backward in a special stun state where they are free to punish. Parry retaliation goes through cv I believe. Killica has vanilla parry and kuhl has the same parry but it also causes powerless beta.
On the topic of eris. She isn't even a threat compared to what she was before her nerfs. Infinite hp recovery and no cd on revival blade. This is how I got 36 frags in epoch.
Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:41 pm
Oh I'm sorry, I confused Parry and Guard. Gyallanbard and DEALER only block. But yeah, a main weapon guard isn't anything special these days.
JadeCicada Regular Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:42 pm
God is a Cat Girl wrote:
Didn't the previous feature gara or so had an art mecha that has guard+CV main in an unlocked AM? I didn't check if the AM can go on anything or if it's one of those that only fit a single bot (too much shit open right now to check).
But yeah, there's a whole lot more than has that guard (moe or mecha), almost every new melee has it this days (except mecha).
That would be Tristan, who does have a main weapon shield but his doesn't give CV. Instead, when it blocks something, it gives LR to the user for a short time period. That shield is Art only, but I forget if the AM is.
The newer Cydron LUCCA DECCHO also had a main weapon shield that didn't give CV, but instead it could be used while alphaing. Or so I've been told - don't have one of those to test for myself.
Past that there's several other shields, like Blitz Pawnger Ar's and Gotrun's, which do give CV in addition to being a shield. And then Hound Dog Emperor and Spada both came with AMs that had half-ammo shields. At the end there's quite a lot of options for mechs in this department (though anecdotally I think Gotrun and Pawnger have the more useful ones overall due to the accompanying subweapons).
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:42 pm
can someone send me crimrose skin files? Not seraph but normal HD one
Winty God Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:56 pm
someone01 wrote:
That's a lot of cursing.
Man, some people get really, really angry when told a certain robot is broken.
Just to be clear, you are 100% sure eris is not broken, right?
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:17 pm
JadeCicada wrote:
God is a Cat Girl wrote:
Didn't the previous feature gara or so had an art mecha that has guard+CV main in an unlocked AM? I didn't check if the AM can go on anything or if it's one of those that only fit a single bot (too much shit open right now to check).
But yeah, there's a whole lot more than has that guard (moe or mecha), almost every new melee has it this days (except mecha).
That would be Tristan, who does have a main weapon shield but his doesn't give CV. Instead, when it blocks something, it gives LR to the user for a short time period. That shield is Art only, but I forget if the AM is.
The newer Cydron LUCCA DECCHO also had a main weapon shield that didn't give CV, but instead it could be used while alphaing. Or so I've been told - don't have one of those to test for myself.
Past that there's several other shields, like Blitz Pawnger Ar's and Gotrun's, which do give CV in addition to being a shield. And then Hound Dog Emperor and Spada both came with AMs that had half-ammo shields. At the end there's quite a lot of options for mechs in this department (though anecdotally I think Gotrun and Pawnger have the more useful ones overall due to the accompanying subweapons).
Oh, it's LR if hit. I only used him like, once for 2 minutes, I wasn't completely sure if it was the right bot even.
Well, newer Cydron had parry instead wasn't it? The one that makes part of his arm kinda of go around him when you use it. I only got him in JP, so I didn't really bother testing what the parry actually does.
JadeCicada Regular Poster
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:31 pm
It has a parry according to the description, but I have no idea if it gives CV or if it blocks shots as well. Likewise a thing that a lot of people just haven't scienced and I myself don't have.
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:32 pm
Winty wrote:
someone01 wrote:
Then lets give all robots in game hide so they can go invisible when about to die and wings to defend.
Since those are totally not good.
you fucking read? most melee already have something that does the same shit as wings. if we gave everyone dark hide I honestly wouldn't give a fuck because honestly it's not that good
so yeah. let's do it. It wouldn't make any difference. I've described to you the weakness of these things repeatedly.
The only reason most people are even going back to using dark hide is that they can active hide during last stand invulnerability frames and then try to run away but 50% of the time someone will just AoE them down anyway since have the shit in the game has strong AoE attacks which are really good at fucking over dark hide.
here lemme fucking list off as many melees as I can that have a main weapon that blocks bullets and gives them CV(the shit that wings does):
1. eris 2. sylvia 3. elisalotte glanz 4. prome 5. Lunastacia 6. sylvia paladin 7. killica(hers has additional functions) 8. captain sunny 9. corona 10. lumeria(this isn't even a fucking melee) 11. ouka scarlet 12. ouka BF 13. Kuhl(hers has additional functions) 14. mikoto 15. vanessa 16. meisen kaede 17. abyss jikun hu 18. Alcy(this is a fucking air)
if I wanted to go through the garapon history and remember every fucking melee that has this feature the list would be a lot longer, I'm pretty sure I could get over 30.
here's a handy website to help you with your inability to read: hookedonphonics.com
Dude is he still stuck at 2012? Jet lag much? You know what's funny? DH is actually shittier compared to Saya Starlight's stealth gimmick. Saya not only hides herself, she also drops lockons upon hiding, which means if you're not a good shot, chances are she's definitely getting away when you chase her. DH, on the other hand, is very, VERY visible than Saya's stealth, so someone who can actually predict where your Eris is going would turn said Eris to dead meat once he lands a hit and you get opted out of DH.
In other news, a Paralyze-tuned Parasol Pepo Torte is actually interesting to use. It drops airs and items, and it works in conventional tandem with Pepo's complete hopcarts. Crock pot, even if it procs GV now, is perfect as a meat shield or something that deals additional chip damage as you engage someone. She's not the best bot, but I like how she fits my tastes.
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:46 pm
Eris' stealth is way better, bruh. Her's isn't optical camouflage + lock-on jamming, so she can get all the buffs in the world and it won't affect her DH.
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:08 pm
JadeCicada wrote:
Let me pull this table I made back when the tune came out testing with my Cannonballer:
1 STR, 40 TEC, no Balancer -> ~54 seconds of AURA (I can't remember the exact but it's withn 52-56) 10 STR, 11 TEC, no Balancer -> 76 seconds of AURA 0 STR, 40 TEC, no Balancer -> 14 seconds of AURA 1 STR, 40 TEC, Balancer -> 76 seconds of AURA 0 STR, 40 TEC, Balancer -> 22 seconds of AURA
Some WB have shorter uptime than others, but the modifiers all work roughly the same. 10/10 stats will always be a longer period of time than a 1/40 array, so Balancer will always be an improvement unless you have stronger balance than 10/10 offers (40/40 is roughly triple the bonus time that 10/10 offers, to give a sense of scale).
With 0'd stats, it's mostly not useful to bother with Wonder Balancer. The exceptions include Wolfraid/Pushpaka where it goes from "Does nothing" to "Does something" which is less than the full something of actual stats but still is enough to actually do a lot of power. Maybe others but not a lot of people science this.
Wonder Balancer has no effect on bits that don't scale, whether or not you 0'd a stat (yes I tried looking for a loophole for doubling their duration).
Cannon Baller AURA Wat?
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:29 pm
I've seen Jade's "Cannonballer."
It's really a Genbura with short arms, Cannonballer LG, and an Albatreos HD. So yeah, it does have AURA.
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:39 am
Problem is
It never happened.
LazFlamme (?) About Bastagant
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:50 am
I̶'̶m̶ ̶1̶2̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ What is this Elisa? Where is this from?:
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:54 am
From old "collecting a number of rare moes to get limited ver of some moes". They are: school elisa, school nemlim, school regina, school aquila girl, lab coat roach, chinese dress kuten and cupid bikini melfi. Remind me if I miss any, I got all except melfi and AG.
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:02 am
^Bird Wing editions of Seraph Crimrose and Ivis.
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:37 am
God is a Cat Girl wrote:
JadeCicada wrote:
God is a Cat Girl wrote:
Didn't the previous feature gara or so had an art mecha that has guard+CV main in an unlocked AM? I didn't check if the AM can go on anything or if it's one of those that only fit a single bot (too much shit open right now to check).
But yeah, there's a whole lot more than has that guard (moe or mecha), almost every new melee has it this days (except mecha).
That would be Tristan, who does have a main weapon shield but his doesn't give CV. Instead, when it blocks something, it gives LR to the user for a short time period. That shield is Art only, but I forget if the AM is.
The newer Cydron LUCCA DECCHO also had a main weapon shield that didn't give CV, but instead it could be used while alphaing. Or so I've been told - don't have one of those to test for myself.
Past that there's several other shields, like Blitz Pawnger Ar's and Gotrun's, which do give CV in addition to being a shield. And then Hound Dog Emperor and Spada both came with AMs that had half-ammo shields. At the end there's quite a lot of options for mechs in this department (though anecdotally I think Gotrun and Pawnger have the more useful ones overall due to the accompanying subweapons).
Oh, it's LR if hit. I only used him like, once for 2 minutes, I wasn't completely sure if it was the right bot even.
Well, newer Cydron had parry instead wasn't it? The one that makes part of his arm kinda of go around him when you use it. I only got him in JP, so I didn't really bother testing what the parry actually does.
Cydron parry: - Lasts much less, but also uses less ammo because of that, tho needs better timing. - Parries same way as Vanilla parry does when a melee attack hits. - Grants CV. - Doesnt block ranged attacks. - Even tho it spins around the bot, it only parries frontal melee attacks.
LazFlamme (?) About Bastagant
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:52 am
Quick! Gimme a reskinnable shield!
mechaRev Abbey Denied
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:22 am
aosepsa wrote:
Problem is
It never happened.
that was divine
DavidRain Despairing Abbey
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:34 am
fggt wrote:
From old "collecting a number of rare moes to get limited ver of some moes". They are: school elisa, school nemlim, school regina, school aquila girl, lab coat roach, chinese dress kuten and cupid bikini melfi. Remind me if I miss any, I got all except melfi and AG.
School Swimsuit Ion.
Zwiebel Force Cosmic Onion
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Subject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB? Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:43 am
Iirc School Swimsuit Ion was a different campaign.
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