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PostSubject: Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build   Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build EmptyWed Oct 22, 2014 4:10 am

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Amlim

[Parts]
BD: Amlim BD2
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 LG: Amlim LG [Ranger] [High Boost Beta] [Tech]
  LG: Amlim LG@
 HD: Amlim HD [Ranger] [High Boost Beta] [Tech]
  HDAC: Eve Ornament [High Tech Alpha]
  FCAC: Sanae's Hairpiece [High Boost Beta]
 BS: Amlim BS
  WP: Amlim BD2@ [Force] [Rapid] [High Rapid Beta]
 BS: Tycoon Hogroid BS [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
 AM: Amlim AM3 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [Tech]
  WP: Mega Blood Shooter [Ranger]
 AM: Amlim AM4 [Ranger] [High Boost Beta] [Tech]
  WP: Cosmic Cola [Ranger] [High Tech Alpha] [Tech]

[Config Check]
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK
AURA: OFF

[Stats]
TYPE: 空
SIZE: S
COST: 1390
CAPA: 1390
HP: 500
STR: 1
TEC: 40
WLK: 3
FLY: 38
TGH: 9

LEVEL: 9

[Cartridges]
Capacity +70×6
Beam Guard
Stun Regain
Broad Radar
Air Loop

I understand I probably shouldn't be taking Stun Regain without 11tgh but I couldn't figure out what else to do, cartridge selection for airs is weird (lnds and arts have it much easier in that regard!)

Also I like the coffin; I'm keeping it unless there's really an option that's THAT much better

wishing I had vanilla amlim because then i could have more tgh


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PostSubject: Re: Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build   Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build EmptyWed Oct 22, 2014 4:18 am

Broad Radar please if u have it available... you don't wanna be caught in a fly trap called ART WALLS and you wouldn't want to charge against any "Good" ART that is aware of your coming and undisturbed by your allied LND melees.

I'd skip quick boost or quick jump or float dash or short boost on any AIR that has any sort of Reboost ability...


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Pork Chop wrote:
Broad Radar pls...
It'll be hard to fit that in, I mean, it takes up 50 cost
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Arti wrote:
Pork Chop wrote:
Broad Radar pls...
It'll be hard to fit that in, I mean, it takes up 50 cost

Remove Sniper sight, and Quick Boost. You don't need to level 10 your bot if you find the remaining carts unnecessary to save capacity.

Core tunes can be your durability instead.
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PostSubject: Re: Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build   Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build EmptyWed Oct 22, 2014 4:35 am

you can play using mega blood gun only, remove the coffin also the homing bat weapon.

the reason playing anlim cardinal is the mega blood gun, her mega blood gun same consep as toarla arm 4 but bigger damages + super long ranges + great speed. the down side only lack of ammo.

and giving extra damages if the enemy using mele weapon each swing.
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PostSubject: Re: Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build   Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build EmptyWed Oct 22, 2014 4:55 am

>not wanting 320 range charge delay inflicting weapon.
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PostSubject: Re: Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build   Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build EmptyWed Oct 22, 2014 7:14 am

Yeah, really, why would you ever want to drop the charge delay bats?

I mean, they've got more ammo so you can farm better, they inflict charge delay, they improve your air-to-air ability by inflicting charge delay, they inflict charge delay, they let you inflict charge delay on your opponents while your crosses are on cooldown, they have decent range so you can inflict charge delay at a distance, and most of all they inflict FUCKING CHARGE DELAY
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I'm not supporting anything but maybe just a guess... +RedCobra+ might be entirely focusing on specializing long range combat. A single hit from the mega blood gun is enough to drop me down as a Seraph FC. And alot of LND melee is tragically hindered. But all at a price of losing your ability to fight close-mid range with airborne or grounded shooters. Not entirely a good idea but not entirely a bad idea.

Then again versatility and utility is very costly on capacity, while specialization increases your strengths and worsens your weakness. Pick your drug pill I guess.
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Yeah but did you see the part about charge delay
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PostSubject: Re: Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build   Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build EmptyWed Oct 22, 2014 8:25 am

Yes I do like charge delay. #em3

Powerless is also annoying too. #em3

Personally I'd rather not specialized since I like both debuffs. #em3.5
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PostSubject: Re: Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build   Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build EmptyWed Oct 22, 2014 10:23 am

Pork Chop wrote:
I'm not supporting anything but maybe just a guess... +RedCobra+ might be entirely focusing on specializing long range combat. A single hit from the mega blood gun is enough to drop me down as a Seraph FC. And alot of LND melee is tragically hindered. But all at a price of losing your ability to fight close-mid range with airborne or grounded shooters. Not entirely a good idea but not entirely a bad idea.

Then again versatility and utility is very costly on capacity, while specialization increases your strengths and worsens your weakness. Pick your drug pill I guess.

IMO , playstyle dictates this whether you adapt to ur bot or the bot will adapt to you.



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PostSubject: Re: Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build   Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build EmptyWed Oct 22, 2014 11:04 am

It's like focusing on Malca arm and not gloom rod.
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PostSubject: Re: Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build   Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build EmptyWed Oct 22, 2014 11:31 am

Except both weapons are good here, whereas Malca arm is just kinda okay (nothing noteworthy) and Gloom Rod is good
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PostSubject: Re: Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build   Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build EmptyWed Oct 22, 2014 11:46 am

Change Rimless Red for something with +1 tec +5HP, change High tec alpha to tec, change boost to high boost beta, change Great rapid beta to high rapid beta + rapid.
There's 10 free cost, same stats, less ammo penalty, get more WP tunes or +15HP, or whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build   Could use some critique on this Amlim Cardinal build EmptyThu Oct 23, 2014 2:13 am

Updated the build in the OP with some of these suggestions.

I'm not sure if I actually -need- weapon tunes on the mega blood shooter but that's just me
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if you don't think it needs any tunes, it needs a force tune.
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I can't put that on unless I drop Air Loop
...then again I'm not even 100% sure about air loop, and i never use airdash carts that aren't built into the moe in question anyway
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