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PostSubject: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 9:45 am

I've never made a real build before, and this is what I came up with in CosmicCalc.

Goal is getting 40 tec, but without capa tunes this is the best I could make

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What worries me is the STR being at 4, I'm not sure if it would kill the damage of Rinka's knife to close range prodding stick levels, and since Google came up empty about how much stats (other than straight 0) need to be reduced before bot-breaking effects come in I figured I'll ask here and get some input on both that and my build

Will something like this work?
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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 10:00 am

-Your STR doesn't really matter. The knife shouldn't be used for doing damage, you'll barely use it at all.
-Your mobility stats are both very low, you can't run nor fly away from potential threats.
-You are using great tunes while you have plenty of slots left, don't do that.
-You aren't wearing a booster.

If you really don't care about mobility you could get accesaries that give at least 1 TEC and a handy magnum with at least 1 slot. Then you can just "Tech" (+1 TEC) tune everything. That way you don't need to worry about failing tunes.
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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 10:05 am

sniper sight + stealth system + BR + great tec + no BS + getting 5/6 capa + using only 6 slots...

please at least be serious


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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 10:10 am

What do you suggest for mobility? My playstyle for Rinka is either hanging behind the front giving support or sneaking on the flanks to snipe.

I don't really know how much mobility is enough since I didn't have problems with my current 18 WLK 18 FLY stats. I care less for FLY than WLK

Um for the booster, I'm wearing a Dugdriver BS currently, I only removed it so that in the build I could get more tec without needing a capa tune.

As for the great tunes thing....I don't really understand how it relates to slots, could you explain? I'm a total rookie when it comes to tuning. I've never touched it at all aside from the proto tune that the Guardian mate wants you to do.
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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 10:12 am

I also tuned a rinka 40 tec not long after i started this game. You probably should rethink your cartridge.

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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 10:15 am

http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/t10610-beginner-s-tuning-guide

if you really don't know how to tune

When I tune, each positive stat is normally worth 5 cost as per the vanilla tunes, and 1 hp = 1 capa.
great tune: 30 cost for 3 positive stat, which in turn 10 cost per stat
great alpha/beta: 20cost for 3 positive stat, 6.67 cost per stat, -> only use if you have SERIOUS slot problems/EX tune
great gamma: 10 cost for 3 positive stat, but so much negative stat its generally bad.

high tune: 15 cost for 2 stat, 7.5 cost per stat, not worth it unless its EX tune giving you 15 hp on top
high alpha: 10 cost for 2 stats, basically cramming 2 vanilla stat into 1 slot while costing a stat you might not need -> worth it if you have slot problems
high beta: 5 cost for 2 stats, and normally you use beta if both the negative stats are ones you don't need -> very worth it

normal alpha -> 5 cost 1 stat with a negative stat, i'm not sure why its still here after normal tunes got changed to 100%.


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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 10:15 am

just go as little mobility as possible using high tech beta tunes
uc rinka is ass, the best thing to do would be to get 40tec while costing as little as possible.
you won't do any damage anyway but at least when you die you'll hurt your team less.
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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 10:38 am

Well the reason I used so little slots was kinda because I wanted to optimize how much each slot can give. A bot can only have so many slots so I just wanted to save the others down for other tunes.

I'm not trying to make a full build that uses up all of the slots for now, rather making one that just gives me 40 tec to start off from.
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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 10:50 am

...

Winty wrote:

uc rinka is ass, the best thing to do would be to get 40tec while costing as little as possible.
you won't do any damage anyway but at least when you die you'll hurt your team less.

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might as well...
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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 10:58 am

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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 11:07 am

uzermane wrote:
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change your tech alpha to beta since you don't need fly anyways
Get rid of the flower gun and move the tunes to your handy baz
add the 1wlk 3 fly cyberstep bs beta and you can reach 35 wlk
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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 11:17 am

Spoiler:
There you go.
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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 7:35 pm

1. You don't need Str on Rinka, period.
2. Sniper Sight and Stealth System are kinda pointless on something with as much range as her. Get Broad Radar instead since it'll help you find target and save your bacon way more.
3. Wlk-Based Arts aren't that good an idea. You still run slow, and LNDs will still have minimal issues catching up to you. Fly-based Float Dash is usually better for getting away from melee LNDs (your main predator).

Here's a build with Fly-based Float Dash and 40 Tec:

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Basing this off the UC Rinka. if you have the Gara one or RT one, you can get some more stats out of her due to extra slots.
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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 7:54 pm

If you keep STR on her, she can use Water Flower PS Bit or Sword Bit. It works as an additional side-arm and is elov
 
A player who has departed from this game had one on his Boost Run Rinka, it should be noted. But it isn't mandatory and often times you ignore STR to maximize stats for ARTs.
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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 8:00 pm

Raubvogel wrote:
1. You don't need Str on Rinka, period.
2. Sniper Sight and Stealth System are kinda pointless on something with as much range as her. Get Broad Radar instead since it'll help you find target and save your bacon way more.
3. Wlk-Based Arts aren't that good an idea. You still run slow, and LNDs will still have minimal issues catching up to you. Fly-based Float Dash is usually better for getting away from melee LNDs (your main predator).

Here's a build with Fly-based Float Dash and 40 Tec:

Spoiler:

Basing this off the UC Rinka. if you have the Gara one or RT one, you can get some more stats out of her due to extra slots.
WLK based can be easier to tune sometimes + doesn't really matter b/c Olktwaffe has the highest range in the game.

@OP: do what Winty said and try to stay as low cost as possible. Olktwaffe BETA is oe of these pacifiers CS liks to throw out from time to time. It's fun to play but the dmg is awkward. Be aware of your radar and learn  how to use your knife for sudden locomotion/dodging.

BTW: my Rinka MR hs STR left (i thi more then 1 actually l0l) and it wasn't even hard, but I'm using a random pomf w/ Tec tunes and a....ugh...I forgot what BS I put on her. She just has 40 TEC and FD. Depending on the map and my sanity level she either makes me become the first frag of the match or GW :O
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PostSubject: Re: First timer Rinka build   First timer Rinka build EmptyWed Jan 29, 2014 8:31 pm

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BTW: my Rinka MR hs STR left (i thi more then 1 actually l0l) and it wasn't even hard, but I'm using a random  pomf w/ Tec tunes and a....ugh...I forgot what BS I put on her. She just has 40 TEC and FD. Depending on the map and my sanity level she either makes me become the first frag of the match or GW :O

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