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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:20 pm | |
| Aside from accel saber and pwngr, I'm not familiar with any other good hopper cores. I'll try making a giganter just because it's cheap and has quick land/jump, short boost and fast recovery (because I really have no patience to tune clearance), but I'm not sure anymore... Any help is much appreciated ; _ ; - Giganter:
[Robot Name] Gigantinger
[Parts] BD: Gigantinger BD : Machinegun Bit(default) : Patty Lop LG [High Run Alpha] : Sol Volca Wing BS : Kagetama HD [High Run Alpha] [High Tech Beta] : Pumpkin Band : Berry Earrings [High Tech Beta] : Accel Saber BS [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Cyber Sonic AM [High Run Alpha] [High Tech Beta] : Berg Cluster Gun [Force] [High Tech Beta] : Lancerlot AM2 [High Run Alpha]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: M COST: 840 CAPA: 840 HP: 420 STR: 1 TEC: 25 WLK: 32 FLY: 1 TGH: 8
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Fast Recovery Short Boost Quick Jump Quick Land
[Material] Fudara Cosmos×11 Ones Cosmos×1 Red Chip×35 Green Chip×75 Stabilizer×35 Engine Shaft×36 Strike Metal×4 Guide Circuit×21 Snail Liquid×28
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:46 am | |
| - Spoiler:
[Robot Name] Hound Dog
[Parts] BD: Hound Dog BD : Spike Bit(default) : Katana Max LG [High Tech Beta] [Clearance] [Clearance] : Mach Knight HD2 [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Heart Sunglasses [Tank] : Recording Cam [High Ranger] : Accel Saber BS [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Lancerlot AM2 [High Run Alpha] : Accel Saber AM [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] : Berg Cluster Gun [Force] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: L COST: 985 CAPA: 1055 HP: 538 STR: 1 TEC: 30 WLK: 32 FLY: 1 TGH: 9
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Blast Guard Short Boost Quick Jump Quick Land
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×100 Fudara Cosmos×53 Midoro Cosmos×21 Yoguru Cosmos×11 Ones Cosmos×1 Red Chip×65 Blue Chip×20 Green Chip×85 Rainbow Chip×20 Stabilizer×94 Engine Shaft×57 Strike Metal×4 Rapid Crystal×100 Guide Circuit×43 Snail Liquid×28 Hulk Meteorite×100 Screw Bolts×55 Steel Wheel×33 Miracle Ammonite×50 Shining Feather×40
You can choose to not take the last capa cart and you'll still have 15 spare capa. |
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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:09 am | |
| Oh right, forgot about hound dog. - Spoiler:
[Robot Name] Hound Dog
[Parts] BD: Hound Dog BD : Dual Spike Bit : Katana Max LG [Clearance] [Clearance] [High Tank] : Mach Knight HD2 [High Run Alpha] [Tank] [Life] : Cute Beret [High Tank] : Berry Earrings [High Tech Alpha] : Moulin BSJ [High Tech Beta] : Sol Volca Wing BS [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Beta] : Lancerlot AM2 [High Run Alpha] : Accel Saber AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Berg Cluster Gun [Force] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: L COST: 1050 CAPA: 1050 HP: 603 STR: 1 TEC: 31 WLK: 32 FLY: 1 TGH: 10
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×6 Blast Guard Short Boost Quick Jump Quick Land
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×100 Fudara Cosmos×53 Midoro Cosmos×21 Yoguru Cosmos×12 Ones Cosmos×1 Red Chip×65 Blue Chip×20 Green Chip×75 Rainbow Chip×20 Stabilizer×62 Engine Shaft×105 Physical Stone×17 Strike Metal×4 Rapid Crystal×100 Guide Circuit×42 Snail Liquid×14 Hulk Meteorite×100 Screw Bolts×90 Steel Wheel×54 Miracle Ammonite×40 Shining Feather×60
Spare capa used for hp and sol volca bs. | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:35 am | |
| this gun has ass for ammo i think you would want more tech and less hp, with that much hp and sol volca you will probably end up outliving your ammo by a lot. | |
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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:05 am | |
| - Winty wrote:
- this gun has ass for ammo i think you would want more tech and less hp, with that much hp and sol volca you will probably end up outliving your ammo by a lot.
I could always bring spare ammo with me, but yeah it goes through ammo like a gas guzzler. Maybe I should stick with giganter then? Tec and hp aside, tuning clearance for something that won't last half the match seems like a waste (I don't really have other bots which I could use the clearance on); _ ; | |
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mechaRev Abbey Denied
Posts : 1298 Join date : 2011-08-17 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:14 am | |
| I uhm, suggest a para but that would be me since, last time I fought one with para I had no way to keep up | |
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UncleBobbie Ace Poster
Posts : 1342 Join date : 2011-03-02 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:37 pm | |
| Berg Cluster Gun is M-sized so I'd use an Accel Saber or Pawnger-S for it. It seems kind of odd to use an L core for an M-sized weapon. | |
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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:53 pm | |
| - UncleBobbie wrote:
- Berg Cluster Gun is M-sized so I'd use an Accel Saber or Pawnger-S for it. It seems kind of odd to use an L core for an M-sized weapon.
I'm actually after Short Boost - Quick Land - Quick Jump, so any sized core with them will suffice. ...but yeah. I actually got to do some clearance tunes for this so I can pass fast recovery. - Beetlander:
[Robot Name] Beet Lander
[Parts] BD: Beet Lander BD : Auto Gun Bit(default) : Ouka LG [Clearance] [Clearance] [High Run] : Sol Volca Wing BS [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Kagetama HD [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [Run] : Cute Beret [High Tech Beta] : Striped Scarf : Moulin BSJ [High Tech Beta] : Accel Saber BS [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Lancerlot AM2 [High Run Alpha] : Cyber Sonic AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Berg Cluster Gun [Force] [High Run Alpha] [Run]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: M COST: 1150 CAPA: 1155 HP: 490 STR: 1 TEC: 40 WLK: 32 FLY: 1 TGH: 16
LEVEL: 8
[Cartridges] Capacity +60×5 Short Boost Quick Jump Quick Land
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×2 Fudara Cosmos×16 Ones Cosmos×1 Red Chip×65 Blue Chip×20 Green Chip×105 Rainbow Chip×20 Stabilizer×65 Engine Shaft×41 Strike Metal×4 Rapid Crystal×100 Guide Circuit×39 Snail Liquid×25 Hulk Meteorite×100 Handa Cosmos×2
This one has 40 tec, clearance, hop carts and quite some hp too. It can take 1 more capa cart to change a high run into a high tank + an extra cart (i'm looking at stun regain or blast guard), though it'll cost more, of course. - giganter:
[Robot Name] Fizalivan
[Parts] BD: Gigantinger BD : Dual Spike Bit : Segment Tail LGJ [Tech] : Ouka LG [Clearance] [Clearance] [Run] : Sol Volca Wing BS [Run] [Run] [Run] : Kagetama HD [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [Run] : Cute Beret [Run] : Berry Earrings [High Tech Beta] : Accel Saber BS [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Cyber Sonic AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Berg Cluster Gun [Force] [High Tech Beta] [Run] : Lancerlot AM2 [High Tech Beta]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: M COST: 910 CAPA: 910 HP: 475 STR: -1 TEC: 34 WLK: 32 FLY: 1 TGH: 8
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×7 Short Boost Quick Jump Quick Land
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×8 Fudara Cosmos×11 Ones Cosmos×1 Red Chip×55 Blue Chip×20 Green Chip×75 Rainbow Chip×20 Stabilizer×60 Engine Shaft×35 Strike Metal×4 Rapid Crystal×100 Guide Circuit×33 Hulk Meteorite×100 Handa Cosmos×2
Less tec and cost, but also already at max level. EDIT: Maybe I should take this into account too. How well does assault step work for lnd gunners? ; _ ; | |
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Relict? [Moderator]
Posts : 5786 Join date : 2011-02-08 Age : 31 Location : San Diego
| Subject: Re: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:15 pm | |
| - Winty wrote:
- assault step is pretty ass for close/mid range gunners. It's amazing for melee and decent for longer ranged gunners who just use it to reposition.
Stick to hops or sway here. Or float dash if you use pig | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:10 pm | |
| i'm not sure why you want both high walk and hops and a sol volca bs.
you're looking at a low ammo, high DPS weapon that is good for a suicide build.
You can use sol volca to get in close and chase and use hops to stay in there, in which case 32 walk isn't that important - 30 would actually be fine here since you'd be using the booster to get to extreme close range.
You can drop the booster and get a one that gives you more tech(looking at the gigantinger here) in order to increase the cost effectiveness of this low damage build.
sol volca or swift jet or whatever are great for keeping higher cost builds alive, allowing them to crowd dive and get out, and other things like that. I don't see the point of something like that on a low cost suicide build like the kind this weapon works well with.
just my thoughts on what you have posted so far. | |
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ziix Burger Molcar
Posts : 3460 Join date : 2011-01-30 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:17 pm | |
| I'm trying to use sol volca bs + hops for kiting actually, in addition to sol volca bs being used for getting in/out quickly. I'm still working it out while I play, though it shouldn't be hard to remove the bs and replace it with something else if ever I can't get it to work as often as I want to. I never actually thought about 30 wlk. Lemme calc it up.EDIT: Got the tec up to 40 for giganter. Though I'm not sure if segmented tail comes slotted, which if ever just drops the tec to 39.forgot to switch out patty lg ; _ ; still at 38 tec though With this one, I've got sol volca, high damage, and still quite some hp. Only problem might be tgh, though. - giganter:
[Robot Name] Fizalivan
[Parts] BD: Gigantinger BD : Dual Spike Bit : Segment Tail LGJ [Tech] : Ouka LG [Clearance] [Clearance] [Run] : Sol Volca Wing BS [Run] [High Tech Beta] [Run] : Kagetama HD [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Cute Beret [Run] : Striped Scarf : Wild Vehic BS [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [Tech] : Cyber Sonic AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Berg Cluster Gun [Force] [High Tech Beta] [High Run] : Lancerlot AM2 [High Tech Beta]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: M COST: 910 CAPA: 910 HP: 470 STR: -3 TEC: 38 WLK: 30 FLY: 1 TGH: 8
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×7 Short Boost Quick Jump Quick Land
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×6 Fudara Cosmos×12 Ones Cosmos×1 Red Chip×60 Blue Chip×20 Green Chip×70 Rainbow Chip×20 Stabilizer×69 Engine Shaft×33 Strike Metal×4 Rapid Crystal×100 Guide Circuit×37 Snail Liquid×11 Hulk Meteorite×100 Handa Cosmos×2
32 wlk 39 tec with no sol volca bs - giganter:
[Robot Name] Fizalivan
[Parts] BD: Gigantinger BD : Dual Spike Bit : Segment Tail LGJ [High Run] : Ouka LG [Clearance] [Clearance] : Accel Saber BS [High Tech Beta] [High Run] [High Tech Alpha] : Kagetama HD [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Alpha] : Cute Beret [Run] : Striped Scarf : Wild Vehic BS [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [Tech] : Cyber Sonic AM [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] [High Tech Beta] : Berg Cluster Gun [Force] [High Tech Beta] [High Run] : Lancerlot AM2 [High Tech Beta]
[Config Check] COST: OK BS: OK LG: OK AURA: OFF
[Stats] TYPE: 陸 SIZE: M COST: 910 CAPA: 910 HP: 465 STR: -4 TEC: 39 WLK: 32 FLY: 1 TGH: 7
LEVEL: 10
[Cartridges] Capacity +70×7 Short Boost Quick Jump Quick Land
[Material] Hidora Cosmos×52 Fudara Cosmos×35 Midoro Cosmos×10 Yoguru Cosmos×5 Ones Cosmos×1 Red Chip×70 Blue Chip×20 Green Chip×70 Rainbow Chip×20 Stabilizer×73 Engine Shaft×44 Strike Metal×4 Rapid Crystal×100 Guide Circuit×44 Snail Liquid×33 Hulk Meteorite×100 Miracle Ammonite×20 Shining Feather×20 Handa Cosmos×1
Last edited by ziix on Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:44 pm; edited 1 time in total | |
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Winty God Poster
Posts : 8419 Join date : 2011-06-12 Location : california
| Subject: Re: Berg Cluster Gun hopper Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:44 pm | |
| i think that looks the best out of everything posted so far. | |
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