About mighty Albatreos ?

just like the title said, i want to hear some opinion about albatreos.
this mecha is 1 of the longest survival in this game.
and the best alpha Art along with Amateus.

what do you think about albatreos ?
its still very good ?

and do i must get it ?

 

If you had actually bothered to use the search function to search "albatreos" you would find alot more threads about him.

Plenty of capa, and being a mecha (without locked parts) gives him plenty of slots too. Make him whatever way you choose.

Is he still good? Yes

Do you HAVE to get him? No, up to you how you plan to spend that rt of yours.

I did and I use it when I'm tryharding It's a beast with or without the proper parts.

optimal build : dugdriver arms and psycho hd (the one with the psygun)

my build: dual handy zooks.

I got float dash and MB and i take enormous shits on melees that don't have enough wlk.

give it thoarla legs for more slots and 40/38 is not a problem.


Seriously. I say get it.
Mind you, it's somewhat boring. It's just... win win win win. Stay away and win.

It eats nails and shits missiles. Get it.

Cobra76 wrote:

just like the title said, i want to hear some opinion about albatreos.
this mecha is 1 of the longest survival in this game.
and the best alpha Art along with Amateus.

what do you think about albatreos ?
its still very good  ?

and do i must get it ?

 

I don't think I'd rank him as the best Alpha art for L types. I wouldn't suggest alpha'ing with him at all actually. If you go just corespam he can get pretty insane stats.

Spoiler:

i have that albatreos, and almost rusty inside my garages because im forgot i have alba inside sub garages.

hehehe , i still find some one insanely spamming the core missile like a rain.

i want to use it again and hear some opinion from you all .

If you like shooting airs, you should definitely give him a try. Alphag or corespam.

Moving Burst Albatreos

Depending on the weapons you use (typically you arm him with Illumis AMJs Burst Launcher) you might have to Great Capacity Tune. But he can still reach 40 TEC/38 FLY with fully loaded weapons.

http://tinyurl.com/AlbaDreamV3 try this for reference

I personally dont recommend dug diver AMs on Albatreos (2 of them... pls no.)

Core Spam Albatreos
Cheer Pompoms (or any equivalent) + a Farming Weapon (Beam Gun Mod or Handy Magnum Mod) (HD or BS so you have more cheer pompoms.) Easily Reach 40 TEC/38 FLY, and actually give him Stun Regain with Broad Radar.
2 Shields also work if you're retro.

If you have a Ragna Barret, depending on how you arm him, he can easily overpower Albatreos. xD

rei_hunter wrote:

typically you arm him with Illumis AMJs Burst Launcher

Since when has that been "typical"? It's an extreme, overboard and arguably unnecessary setup.

rei_hunter wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/AlbaDreamV3 try this for reference

Rei-tier build, as with all Rei-tier builds, DO NOT TAKE SERIOUSLY, and LAUGH ON SIGHT.

rei_hunter wrote:

I personally dont recommend dug diver AMs on Albatreos (2 of them... pls no.)

Then you are refusing to recommend possibly the most efficient and readily achieveable alpha builds available for Alba, with absolutely NO reasons given.

Also, for a homing weapon based alpha loadout, it is absolutely critical to equip yourself with Psycho Formula HD2/3 for the purpose of overranging.

rei_hunter wrote:

Core Spam Albatreos
Cheer Pompoms (or any equivalent) + a Farming Weapon (Beam Gun Mod or Handy Magnum Mod) (HD or BS so you have more cheer pompoms.) Easily Reach 40 TEC/38 FLY, and actually give him Stun Regain with Broad Radar.
2 Shields also work if you're retro.

Do you even play Alba to know what you are talking about?

You don't ever need a farming weapon on Alba. Standard missiles come with sufficient ammo, and there's always his sub to fall back, which you are unlikely deplete of ammo, ever.

Alba has more than enough capacity for two shields, especially with the newer shields that are cheaper than Viper Shield, very little reason not to go with at least one.

Alba HD is something decent to keep on him in order to defend yourself against things that are right on top of you. A single para tune is decent if you have the capa.

rei_hunter wrote:

If you have a Ragna Barret, depending on how you arm him, he can easily overpower Albatreos. xD

That is pretty fucking irelevant considering how Ragna blocks everything, you might as well tell us how Eris will eat Alba for breakfast or something similarly trivial.

I'm sure this has been stated time and time again, but for once, please take this to heart, Rei: THINK BEFORE YOU OFFER "ADVICE".

For your info, Albatreos core weapon missile shots lasts longer than Ragna while alphaing. Also unlike Ragna, Albatreos doesn't suffer from the nasty knockback effect after shooting that Ragna does. Also Alba has way more core ammo than Ragna to spam with. You can also stick those Ragna arms on Alba for bullet/beam cancelling shields.

Ragna's advantages are just that 'increase initiating time to shoot debuff' and that back step boost.

In the offensive department considering those factors, Alba has Ragna beat.

Solryu wrote:

For your info, Albatreos core weapon missile shots lasts longer than Ragna while alphaing. Also unlike Ragna, Albatreos doesn't suffer from the nasty knockback effect after shooting that Ragna does. Also Alba has way more core ammo than Ragna to spam with. You can also stick those Ragna arms on Alba for bullet/beam cancelling shields.

Ragna's advantages are just that 'increase initiating time to shoot debuff' and that back step boost.

In the offensive department considering those factors, Alba has Ragna beat.

Pretty much this. No one notices that basically all of ragna's damage actually comes from his cannons mainly (and illumis amjs if they have it on) and possibly handhelds. If dumb folks actually played ragna without the amjs, they would have soon realized he doesn't do as much damage as alba does.

What makes nonsense like Rouche AM Amateus and Ragna fucking broken is the fact, assuming you don't get unexpectedly flanked, you can happily burst away in front of you without any real worries of rataliation. THAT is the real strength and advantage (OVERHWELMING advantage, if I may add) for those builds.

Alpha Alba's strength lies his overranging core, which has excellent range, interval, damage, speed and homing. In combination with a full homing loadout + range tuned PFHD2/3, he can provide excellent firepower from incredible range and flexible angles.

wouldn't corespam 'cuz of antihoming. rather alphag

Spoiler:

I think core alba with his head will make up for most of your anti-homing problems. Not sure what alpha build would work on anti-homing in that case since most of the good ones would have missiles anyway!

Winty wrote:

Not sure what alpha build would work on anti-homing in that case since most of the good ones would have missiles anyway!

Skill and good prediction. Well anyway my build works on anti-homing.

Winty wrote:

Not sure what alpha build would work on anti-homing in that case since most of the good ones would have missiles anyway!

If you're REALLY that worried about anti-homing (which you shouldn't be), my dual handy zook build works like a charm.

Moghul wrote:

Winty wrote:

Not sure what alpha build would work on anti-homing in that case since most of the good ones would have missiles anyway!

If you're REALLY that worried about anti-homing (which you shouldn't be), my dual handy zook build works like a charm.

lol

i use Blast Baz and Handy Baz for my Alba currently (on en anyways.)

I have a 2x Illumis Burst Launcher AMJ, Dagomure BS, Handy Bazooka x2 on my Albatreos on CB-KR. my only banes are Reines, (Some Ragna Barrets, since they use the L sized Bazookas on theirs to cockblock more), and Machinelets. I just love how this setup rips damage on Shielded Lands or TGH high lands

also, the reason why not dug diver arms is because when you start tuning, you can reach 0 WLK without even getting to 38 FLY.

A Sub for this would be Gathima's Missile arm (the one that arcs into the altitude.) But i like to keep use handhelds, until PROBABLY Kealmas AM2s, which spews more missiles along with Core's Missiles (+ you can hold a weapon or pompoms.)

Oh yeah, Hi Revelske ~

Rei-san you're so bad... @ A@;

I cry when people use handy bazooka on L ART.

Not every ART needs 38 FLY. Even though I generally aim for only 31, alpha builds can get by with just 25 FLY, possibly 22.

if your mech can go 38 FLY, why not? It allows you to move around faster and escape shit faster.

You can do 40TEC/38FLY on Alba and still overload weapons on him. With or without Great Capacity tunes.

If your mech can go to 38 fly and doesn't need it, it's better put the capacity use at where it does need it.

well... if you're up to like... just dying with a massively overloaded weapons platform.... i guess that's fine o.o

rei_hunter wrote:

well... if you're up to like... just dying with a massively overloaded weapons platform.... i guess that's fine o.o

But that isn't what the OP is asking for though.

The OP is asking whether or not he should get one.

rei_hunter wrote:

well... if you're up to like... just dying with a massively overloaded weapons platform.... i guess that's fine o.o

Mine gets by on 22 fly. I just abuse Wonderbit dodge and Swift Jet BS.