Need help with AchtSieben EL build!

Newbie Posts : 61 Join date : 2012-12-12

Recently,I roll AchtSieben EL from nemesis garapon..but it seems the robot's am which has anti air missile is useless..it cant shoot Lnd robot..sometimes it even difficult to shoot air robot with it ..any idea to build it with better am?

Subject: Re: Need help with AchtSieben EL build! Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:57 am

Using my very bad bot building skills....

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I personally recomending ditching the AMs and using only the core that thing as arusm

Newbie Posts : 61 Join date : 2012-12-12

Thanks for the build..!

Subject: Re: Need help with AchtSieben EL build! Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:20 am

Change the viper shields for bucklers.
Also, I'd consider taking out one of the shields and equip another weapon, like a zooka. But that's just me.

Guest

Honestly, you really don't want the Viper shields. They cost 60 each, two of them eating up a total of 120 cost. If shields really mean anything, use Bucklers.

I would go walk based on this bot, but fly works as well. It's up to preference.

Quick Walk build:

Last cart is debatable. You can grab a capa cart, tune clearance if that's your thing, and stack more Hp. (I could get up to 577hp.)
If you wanna keep it low cost, grab Beam guard and raise your resilience to beams.
Not sure how beneficial Boost Run would be, since this isn't sitting at a breakpoint.

Alternatively, you could try to fit in a Handy mag if you're into farming for ammo, or a different weapon.

Guest

The core is all you really need. You can slap on a Handy Baz for close-range defense if you want.

Ace Poster Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28

iKray wrote:

Honestly, you really don't want the Viper shields. They cost 60 each, two of them eating up a total of 120 cost. If shields really mean anything, use Bucklers.

I would go walk based on this bot, but fly works as well. It's up to preference.

Quick Walk build:

Last cart is debatable. You can grab a capa cart, tune clearance if that's your thing, and stack more Hp. (I could get up to 577hp.)
If you wanna keep it low cost, grab Beam guard and raise your resilience to beams.
Not sure how beneficial Boost Run would be, since this isn't sitting at a breakpoint.

Alternatively, you could try to fit in a Handy mag if you're into farming for ammo, or a different weapon.

non LND run breaks at 35 doko

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tehprognoob wrote:

iKray wrote:

Honestly, you really don't want the Viper shields. They cost 60 each, two of them eating up a total of 120 cost. If shields really mean anything, use Bucklers.

I would go walk based on this bot, but fly works as well. It's up to preference.

Quick Walk build:

Last cart is debatable. You can grab a capa cart, tune clearance if that's your thing, and stack more Hp. (I could get up to 577hp.)
If you wanna keep it low cost, grab Beam guard and raise your resilience to beams.
Not sure how beneficial Boost Run would be, since this isn't sitting at a breakpoint.

Alternatively, you could try to fit in a Handy mag if you're into farming for ammo, or a different weapon.

non LND run breaks at 35 doko

My bad. Building LNDs to 36 is getting to me. ; ;

Subject: Re: Need help with AchtSieben EL build! Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:02 pm

you folks say don't use viper shields all the time and then proceed to use some fangled 3s rt part that is hard to get....whats the point of making builds that is imposibu to build unless u have da finances to support it

Ace Poster Posts : 1918 Join date : 2010-06-09

mogimus wrote:: you folks say don't use viper shields all the time and then proceed to use some fangled 3s rt part that is hard to get....whats the point of making builds that is imposibu to build unless u have da finances to support it

go for broke.
always.
most if not all builds take a long time to finish anyway.

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mogimus wrote:: you folks say don't use viper shields all the time and then proceed to use some fangled 3s rt part that is hard to get....whats the point of making builds that is imposibu to build unless u have da finances to support it

Because 2x 3s Viper shield is just downright bad.
(Seriously, 120 cost for shields that even bucklers can do the same? Why do people still think this is a good idea?)

What's the point in tuning if you're not going to commit or fund it? It's the same concept.
Cosmo Kaiser HD 3s is available in the shop by buying Comso Kaiser with RT. It's only 20 or so, I don't see a problem.
3s Ghost Raider is a different story, but I've pulled him a few times from Lotto cubes.
If he really wanted to, he could switch to 3s Build arms and change up the tunes.

Subject: Re: Need help with AchtSieben EL build! Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:17 pm

Coffin and Rosario Shields exist, you know.

Guest

I thought those would be better off on L-sized bots since they're M-sized parts.

Subject: Re: Need help with AchtSieben EL build! Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:28 pm

Oh, I saw viper shield discussion and assumed we were talking about an L bot without even noticing the thread title.

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...so why are we putting vipers on an M-ART?

Regular Poster Posts : 175 Join date : 2011-09-16

Suguri wrote:: Oh, I saw viper shield discussion and assumed we were talking about an L bot without even noticing the thread title.

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...so why are we putting vipers on an M-ART?

More affordable than 3s S shields.

Guest

/dev/random wrote:

Suguri wrote:: Oh, I saw viper shield discussion and assumed we were talking about an L bot without even noticing the thread title.
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...so why are we putting vipers on an M-ART?

More affordable than 3s S shields.

Less cost efficient in the end.

40 capa could have equated to 8~16 stats, depending on Alphas or Betas.

Ace Poster Posts : 1712 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 28

shields are for pussies

go for 2X pompoms of w/e stat you want

Regular Poster Posts : 118 Join date : 2012-12-16

My full tuned 87, it's actually lvl 10 now with all capa carts, eiws, shortboost and sniper sight (broad where D:)

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Subject: Re: Need help with AchtSieben EL build! Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:07 pm

I see 3s Bucklers sitting in bazaar for 100k uc.
Talk about RT.

Subject: Re: Need help with AchtSieben EL build! Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:28 pm

There were some for 60~70k last bazaar even.

Ace Poster Posts : 1761 Join date : 2011-05-26

maybe i should sell some of mine since i rarely (more like never) use them in builds >.>

Newbie Posts : 61 Join date : 2012-12-12

How about a full UC build??..I dont have enough RT =.= ..

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** wrote:: How about a full UC build??..I dont have enough RT =.= ..

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Newbie Posts : 61 Join date : 2012-12-12

Thanks for the build..I'll try it out !

Newbie Posts : 87 Join date : 2012-11-16 Age : 42

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Thanks to 100% +1 upgrades Very Happy

My build have two shields, well, i used cheap materials... and i think it is necessary to have shields to protect the 87 because charging halted when you take certain amount of damage.
I do have Howitzer AMJ for two purposes, one is to reach difficult terrains which is impossible for Railgun to reach it such as below a cliff, behind wall (at some height). Two is for anti air purpose, it would certainly hit incoming Seraph Crim HD which tries to release nova. Then it would help me to herd my target for my Railgun. So if the missile come from the left, the only options to retreat are by either right, forward, or backward. Forward and backward counted as the same, since we're using railgun. IF the railgun connects before the missile, at the most case my target would be stunned, extra hit from the missile.

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